Just rewatched episode 10. Am I the only one that finds Ae's song story odd? Did it happen in the book? 'Cuz it…
I think it's weird as hell and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about Ae/Pete at this point. (I wasn't that crazy about them in Season 1. The only thing that worked were their bed scenes, which bordered on soft porn. Other than that, Pete was such a wishy-washy and wimpy character, I just... couldn't.)
In my opinion yes, regardless of Karleen's past trauma if she harbors some sort of distaste or prejudice against…
Thank you again for your detailed response.
I do agree with most of what you said in your second paragraph. My intention was not for "bi-erasure," that's your interpretation, and you have every right to it.
Yeah, you are coming across as defensive and harsh. In fact, at times you sound almost sanctimonious here. I'm sorry, but you're not the only one unable to let things "slide by."
In my opinion yes, regardless of Karleen's past trauma if she harbors some sort of distaste or prejudice against…
Thank you for your thoughtful and lengthy response!
I'm in agreement with you in regard to most of what you've written here. And I definitely understand what you mean about some people assuming that bisexuals are likely to be "frivolous, sl*tty, and cheaters." In fact, I would go as far as saying that gay men are often assumed to be even more of those things.
I do think we need to be very careful about labeling someone as biphobic, as the word suggests a strong element of hate. Karleen (in PND) has her personal reasons for rejecting Pearl, but I don't believe that hate is one of them. Maybe we need another term, besides biphobic. Or maybe we don't need a label at all, in such a case.
We all make personal decisions as to who we choose to go that extra step... dating/relationships. It's not always that clear cut. Example: you find yourself really attracted to someone, but he/she looks so much like a terribly toxic person from your past, you just can't get past it. Or maybe they even have the same name as that toxic person. No hate there... just a valid reason for deciding not to pursue the relationship. Is it fair? Well, no... it's really not fair to either party, but sometimes -- for whatever reason -- we just have to let things go and move on.
In the end, I believe that most of us are decent people and we all try and make decisions for ourselves, the best we can.
She may pay the ultimate price for her reaction. She reminds me of the mom in the movie Latter Days, where they…
Agreed. As bad as Sandee is for outing Ken, I think the mother is far worse. She didn't have to react the way she did, with so much hostility and hate. Parents are supposed to have unconditional love for their children... obviously she doesn't. Ken's mom is a perfect example of why so many gay people live their lives in the closet and feel shame.
In my opinion yes, regardless of Karleen's past trauma if she harbors some sort of distaste or prejudice against…
Hi! You seem very experienced with this topic... I'd really like to explore the concept of biphobia with you, if you don't mind.
If we use the terms "homophobia" and "homophobic" in regard to gay people (I am gay), I've always thought that a homophobic person is one who hates/is against/is discriminatory toward gay people. And I would assume a biphobic person would demonstrate the same qualities against bisexuals, yes?
However, let's say I fall for a friend who is straight, and I confess my feelings because... well, I guess you never know unless you try, lol. He then says that we're great friends but he doesn't date gay men. Would you consider my friend homophobic? I wouldn't.
So I guess you see where my next question is going. If a bisexual person confesses their feelings to a gay friend, and that gay friend says that they do not date bisexuals, how is that biphobic?
Just interested in becoming more clear on this issue, thanks.
No matter what happens, the mother needs to be tarred and feathered. She's horrible. The way she was carrying on, she sounded like she was ready to send Ken to conversion therapy. HORRIBLE mother.
I still love Tin/Can. They're the only thing keeping me going with this series... story is all over the place, side couples are meh, toxic, or non-existent.
And isn't Pond supposed to be Ae's best friend? Pond is always supportive. Ae treats him like shit, he's never said one kind word to him, even in Season 1. I'm on Team Pond... Ae can go take a flying leap.
It's painful to watch. Please tell me how can they eff up a drama sequel so bad. Season 1 was just amazing. But…
I think our standards have gone up because there have been so many really good BLs in the past couple of years.
I thought LBC1 was (mostly) great when I watched it the first time, but I recently rewatched it and... honestly, it wasn't all that good, either. SO many problems with it, and it hasn't held up well.
Okay, everyone is freaking out and/or confused, and so am I. But...
Bear in mind that we just finished ep 5 (some have already seen ep 6, I've read the spoilers). There are still two full episodes left. If the end of ep. 5 had been the end of ep. 7, I'd feel hopeless. But there's still a story to be told.
So, I'm holding out hope that we really will get a happy ending. (Plus, director Vincent De Jesus did say that no one dies, so there's that... ) Maybe Sandee's "seeing ghosts" is just her own crazy hallucinations, lol!
I do agree with most of what you said in your second paragraph. My intention was not for "bi-erasure," that's your interpretation, and you have every right to it.
Yeah, you are coming across as defensive and harsh. In fact, at times you sound almost sanctimonious here. I'm sorry, but you're not the only one unable to let things "slide by."
Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?
I'm in agreement with you in regard to most of what you've written here. And I definitely understand what you mean about some people assuming that bisexuals are likely to be "frivolous, sl*tty, and cheaters." In fact, I would go as far as saying that gay men are often assumed to be even more of those things.
I do think we need to be very careful about labeling someone as biphobic, as the word suggests a strong element of hate. Karleen (in PND) has her personal reasons for rejecting Pearl, but I don't believe that hate is one of them. Maybe we need another term, besides biphobic. Or maybe we don't need a label at all, in such a case.
We all make personal decisions as to who we choose to go that extra step... dating/relationships. It's not always that clear cut. Example: you find yourself really attracted to someone, but he/she looks so much like a terribly toxic person from your past, you just can't get past it. Or maybe they even have the same name as that toxic person. No hate there... just a valid reason for deciding not to pursue the relationship. Is it fair? Well, no... it's really not fair to either party, but sometimes -- for whatever reason -- we just have to let things go and move on.
In the end, I believe that most of us are decent people and we all try and make decisions for ourselves, the best we can.
Thanks again for your post!
Me: Spots cute guy.
Cute Guy: Looks my way and waves.
Me: (heart skips a beat) Waves back at him, smiles.
Turns out cute guy is not waving at me, but someone two feet behind me.
Me: Slinks away in total embarrassment.
Lol.
If we use the terms "homophobia" and "homophobic" in regard to gay people (I am gay), I've always thought that a homophobic person is one who hates/is against/is discriminatory toward gay people. And I would assume a biphobic person would demonstrate the same qualities against bisexuals, yes?
However, let's say I fall for a friend who is straight, and I confess my feelings because... well, I guess you never know unless you try, lol. He then says that we're great friends but he doesn't date gay men. Would you consider my friend homophobic? I wouldn't.
So I guess you see where my next question is going. If a bisexual person confesses their feelings to a gay friend, and that gay friend says that they do not date bisexuals, how is that biphobic?
Just interested in becoming more clear on this issue, thanks.
(Now watch... it will turn out that Sandee is just nuts and this whole thing has been her dream. Just kidding, lol!)
And isn't Pond supposed to be Ae's best friend? Pond is always supportive. Ae treats him like shit, he's never said one kind word to him, even in Season 1. I'm on Team Pond... Ae can go take a flying leap.
I thought LBC1 was (mostly) great when I watched it the first time, but I recently rewatched it and... honestly, it wasn't all that good, either. SO many problems with it, and it hasn't held up well.
Bear in mind that we just finished ep 5 (some have already seen ep 6, I've read the spoilers). There are still two full episodes left. If the end of ep. 5 had been the end of ep. 7, I'd feel hopeless. But there's still a story to be told.
So, I'm holding out hope that we really will get a happy ending. (Plus, director Vincent De Jesus did say that no one dies, so there's that... ) Maybe Sandee's "seeing ghosts" is just her own crazy hallucinations, lol!