Synchonicity

Preach!

I've known plenty of BOTTOMS who are feisty and absolutely dominant when it comes to standing up for themselves. (And they practically order the top to give them what they want... the top is merely a slave for their pleasure, lol!)

Not all couples pursue each other in the same way, some actually do enjoy an element of "cat and mouse" playful foreplay ("Don't come near me! But, actually... I want you to"). That's what I get from Gene/Nubsib, it's a different kind of chemistry... something you intuit as a couple.

I had no doubt in my mind that if Gene really meant "No means no" and was genuinely upset, Nubsib would have backed off immediately.

Interesting... I didn't get that at all.

What I DID get was Nubsib very clearly saying to Gene "If you're not ready, I can wait." Gene was the one who said "Cut the crap and just do it." 100% consensual on Gene's part.

Thanks for your excellent points.

For me, the real issue is not Nubsib/Gene, per se. Okay, Nubsib just happens to come from a wealthy family, but most actors don't have that luxury. They don't work, they don't eat. And actors have to strike while the iron is hot, as there is no guarantee that they will always have work.

Just waiting out the four months doesn't confront the bigger issue. When does the insanity end?

Combine that with being forced to publicly lie about your personal life (on more than one level). As you mentioned, that is so wrong.

Sorry, I wasn't clear on what you meant.

Thank you for this.

"4 months" doesn't solve the problem. So what happens when Sib gets cast in "Bad Engineer 2?" Or the BL after that one? And another, and another...? The series is telling us that BL stars never, EVER get to have a husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend, because it interferes with fanservice. That's the problem.

Tiffy is just a beyotch. She should start dating Tum's nasty sister, they'd be a perfect match. Tum can do waaaaay better!

Agreed. But... kudos to Thailand for producing both Lovely Writer and Call It What You Want. It can only help to combat toxic producers and fanservice.

And what happens after 4 months? Sib becomes an even bigger star, gets cast as another BL lead, and then another, and another... what the company is saying is that Nubsib can NEVER have a boyfriend. Isn't that correct?

For me this was the best episode yet, because we're finally getting to the heart and soul of what -- I think -- this series is supposed to be about: the destructive aspects of BL fanservice.

I love BL, but I've always been really creeped out by fanservice. Sure, it's a profit maker for the companies, but it's weird as hell and really needs to fall apart at some point. It's TOXIC.

Watching Aey's livestream to his fans, I couldn't help but think about Art's teary livestream when he complained about Mew (and fans went berserk), or when Saint (after LBC with Perth), teamed up with Zee on Why R U, and Zee got death threats. And there's far more insanity than just those two incidents.

Actors outside of BL don't hide their marriages and relationships. We could say "Nubsib/Gene just have to hold out 4 months, what's the big deal?" The big deal is this: what happens when Nubsib is cast in the next BL series? And the one after that? What this company is saying is that Nubsib is NEVER allowed to have a private relationship or marriage, at least not while he is a BL star.

No wonder all these popular BL actors want out.

Tiffy has no right to project her insecurities and nastiness onto someone else. Sounds like Tiffy has some major growing up to do.

I think it was supposed to be some big mystery, but for me I just didn't care.

Agreed.

Agreed. I only stayed to the end for Arthur.

Or... you could stop telling people what to do or how to feel.

The series has started up again, here's Ep. 7: https://youtu.be/l4r6fDuflFk

That's right!

Or maybe they're a couple that's just into oral?