Two chunks missing from this show: Taekyung's full reply after having just read all the texts from Shinwoo and Taekyung's reply after Daon asks if he can still like him. I get that they've probably been purposely cut short so as to not sway the audience too obviously in one way or the other, but those two scenes needed a lot more closure than they got. Cutting them off like that seemed too abrupt.
But I guess we should be more proud of SWs determination when Daon avoid and hurt TG's feeling. Also, I am more…
I'm disappointed at SW lack of determination considering he's all this time confess. He knew Tae liked Daon, so he hesitated. Then he knew Daon liked Tae, so he hesitated. Then Daon hurts Taekyung's feelings and Shinwoo is still super weird, awkward and indirect with Taekyung? Meanwhile telling Daon: Take him or I will? I dunno. I feel like Shinwoo either needs to step up or sit down. I feel for him to an extent, but I don't think he's as determined is the word for him.
EXACTLY- Daon has ZERO integrity. Don't care for him AT ALL now. Makes you think n value Shin Woo - Shin Woo had…
Is your dislike of Daon largely predicated on your like of Shinwoo or are you actually insisting that Daon has "ZERO integrity"? Admittedly, I do like Daon, but I haven't seen this much contempt before. It's ep 15 and my opinion of Shinwoo has only gotten worse. So, if there's someone who feels this strongly against Daon, I'm very curious as to how and why? **curious** is the keyword here, not *angry about* haha
Reading this opens my eyes a little bit. You are absolutely right. People kept calling Daon a coward because he…
Exactly. Shinwoo's a lovely person, but he's dropped the ball so many times and even I at first was like, "Aww it's ok, better luck next time, champ.", but now it's just getting a little pathetic. If this is the type of person Taekyung's gonna end up with, the rationale on Thursday better be good.
-Taekyung lying straight to Shinwoo's face this episode caught me off guard in a bad way. Taekyung rarely hides his feelings to anyone and seeing as this is one of the closest people to him, I really feel like it's weird that he completely tried to throw off Shinwoo when he asked (in so many words), "So what's up with you Daon lately?"
-"New hair, new me." is Daon's theme this episode this episode. The entire conversation at the bench was like: Tae: I liked you a lot before, but- Daon: So, I liked you before and I still like you and I'm pretty sure you still like me, so what are we gonna do about that? Tae: ššš
-I like all the characters in this show (aside from Sohee) in different ways, but if I had to pick one I like the least, it'd be Shinwoo. I kinda felt this way before and I couldn't put my finger on why, but now I think I get it. He's just a *little* bit of a coward to me, at this point. Not because he's shy or anxious, but because he's actually not either of those things until it matters. He's able to do everything else to show the world he likes Taekyung except look the only person who that's actually important to in the eyes and tell him directly and with actual words to match his sincerity. Even now, after we know that Tae knows that Shinwoo likes him, where is Shinwoo? Standing across the hall, barely able to wave and say 'hello', but then comes back later tugging at Taekyung's arm with a pitiable stare and an even more pitiable request to leave Daon when he's in the middle of interacting with Daon...AGAIN?? Don't get me wrong, Shinwoo's a good person and good people don't deserve to be heart-broken, but this is disappointing on his part imo.
I've been holding off watching this because it looks a bit heavy. I dont know ANYTHING about it.. does it look…
To echo what Nolan said, I think, especially after one aspect of ep 5 in particular, that this is firmly headed toward a sad ending. However, even if that is the case, the tone of this show, while slow, isn't depressing. Definitely not a cry fest each episode like UWMA or something.
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And now that I think about it, considering today marks the anniversary of Japanese surrender, I think whoever leaked this probably timed it on purpose.
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I hope he maintains himself and makes some sort of recovery that will be accepted by the domestic audience. There are a lot of difficult things I've seen a Chinese celebrity to come back from (financial scandal, romance scandal, or character-slandering etc.), but I've never known anyone to come back from perceived anti-China sentiments. People have had their careers thrown out for lesser offenses to the nation than this.
This was filmed beautifully and I love the relationship-building Mitsuomi does with his father, but I wish we could have seen more between Mitsuomi and Yamato. Like 15 minutes more would have been enough, I think.
I wasn't twisting your words. Let's just maybe not minimalize the history and culture of a country you don't belong to. And the resentment held against this place isn't even something the Chinese exclusively hold. Other former victim countries of Japanese imperialism do too. Also, there's no need to call someone's love of their country into question just because they live elsewhere. Of course, in the end, everyone wants peace.
As a Chinese ***American*** were this a Jewish celebrity at a holocaust site or a Black American at a slave plantation what would your reaction be? If you don't like "China" (government or people), just say that, but don't use that to detract from or minimalize the reason people are upset. Avenue X didn't claim to be "patriotic" in the same way people who speak against Nazis and the Confederate States don't need to plainly say they're "patriotic". And to answer your ridiculous question: NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. Her mother could be dying of a terminal illness and so she decided to move to Canada for her to receive better treatment. Or she could have fallen in love with a Canadian. None of that changes that this is as much an international human rights issue as it is a national one. One that didn't only affect affect China. I state again: I don't support the cancellation of Zhang Zhe Han (comercially), but I'm extremely uncomortable with the ready willingness of people to underplay Japanese imperialism while simultaneously admonishing Chinese sensationalism. It's not as easy of an "it's in the past" thing. The effects of this sh*t is in the LIVING memory of millions of people in multiple countries. People have a right to feel how they will about that and Americans, of all people, should definitely be thinking twice about when and how to tell other nations to let bygones be bygones...
Iām glad she said something about it because non-Chinese/non-Asian people have been really writing this off…
I also agree that Chinese netizens are over the top 9/10 times, but this is different. Iāve been to this place myself and whatās written in the museum there is the objective polar opposite to the reality of history. And again, ALL Chinese know this history and know this place due to the fact that Japanese prime ministers regularly go there to pay respects in spite of the war criminals enshrined there. Itās just a bad look. Itās literally the same as a Jew going to a wedding at āAuschwitz Parkā (if Germany were as insensitive to that issue as Japan is to this one) and nonchalantly posted pictures
AvenueX just uploaded a video explaing the situation as a chinese person. The ZZH stuff starts at 9 min mark.Basically…
Iām glad she said something about it because non-Chinese/non-Asian people have been really writing this off as if itās nothing. Donāt cancel him, fine, but letās not diminish a history thatās already diminished as it is.
-"New hair, new me." is Daon's theme this episode this episode. The entire conversation at the bench was like:
Tae: I liked you a lot before, but-
Daon: So, I liked you before and I still like you and I'm pretty sure you still like me, so what are we gonna do about that?
Tae: ššš
-I like all the characters in this show (aside from Sohee) in different ways, but if I had to pick one I like the least, it'd be Shinwoo. I kinda felt this way before and I couldn't put my finger on why, but now I think I get it. He's just a *little* bit of a coward to me, at this point. Not because he's shy or anxious, but because he's actually not either of those things until it matters. He's able to do everything else to show the world he likes Taekyung except look the only person who that's actually important to in the eyes and tell him directly and with actual words to match his sincerity. Even now, after we know that Tae knows that Shinwoo likes him, where is Shinwoo? Standing across the hall, barely able to wave and say 'hello', but then comes back later tugging at Taekyung's arm with a pitiable stare and an even more pitiable request to leave Daon when he's in the middle of interacting with Daon...AGAIN?? Don't get me wrong, Shinwoo's a good person and good people don't deserve to be heart-broken, but this is disappointing on his part imo.
If you don't like "China" (government or people), just say that, but don't use that to detract from or minimalize the reason people are upset. Avenue X didn't claim to be "patriotic" in the same way people who speak against Nazis and the Confederate States don't need to plainly say they're "patriotic". And to answer your ridiculous question: NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. Her mother could be dying of a terminal illness and so she decided to move to Canada for her to receive better treatment. Or she could have fallen in love with a Canadian. None of that changes that this is as much an international human rights issue as it is a national one. One that didn't only affect affect China.
I state again: I don't support the cancellation of Zhang Zhe Han (comercially), but I'm extremely uncomortable with the ready willingness of people to underplay Japanese imperialism while simultaneously admonishing Chinese sensationalism. It's not as easy of an "it's in the past" thing. The effects of this sh*t is in the LIVING memory of millions of people in multiple countries. People have a right to feel how they will about that and Americans, of all people, should definitely be thinking twice about when and how to tell other nations to let bygones be bygones...