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Replying to nat Jul 23, 2024
Some thoughts from someone who is (1) the ultimate Xiang Liu defender, (2) the ultimate Jing disliker (yeah I’m…
The Bobby Ewing shower equivalent was soooooo Bobby Ewing shower.
Replying to susuworld Jul 23, 2024
We really need Yang Zi and TJC in a modern drama as an afterlife. Like having Princess Agents reunion in Shen…
Did you see the fan video using their past modern dramas to reunite them in a reincarnation? It was very well done!
Replying to 1Maverickk Jul 22, 2024
Title The Double
Wait till you get to the bathtub scene 🛁
I saw a fan art, putting him shirtless in front of a bathtub. 😆
Replying to Filofretka Jul 22, 2024
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We can’t help you, cus we all love it here ❤️‍🔥
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Replying to Sssnoopyyy Jul 22, 2024
Okay so I appreciated some of the details and scenes we didn’t get in the novel (i.e XL sending Chubby away…
No, no you summed up my feelings 100%. I mean, I was upset and bitter ten years ago when I read the novel, but now you can add totally flummoxed and disappointed as well. I loved that novel. Not so sure what feel about Season 2. Except for Xiang Liu, every one of those beloved characters were butchered horribly.
Replying to CareBears18 Jul 22, 2024
@Ep 22 when TSJ came back alive, did any of you felt the romantic love between them?or is it just me ? cuz when…
Yes, after watching XL’s scene with her, I’m singing Haddaway’s What Is Love.
Replying to tinkin Jul 22, 2024
Title The Double
I am surprised to learn that the male lead is only 22. So, how old was he when they shot this drama? This is his…
He dubbed himself. That’s his real voice.
Replying to TaliaToo Jul 22, 2024
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There is a five-minute episode 40.5 to make sure the viewers see the happy couple happy with a kid.
If she could accept the FL being whacked on the head and buried alive, and still managed to survive that ordeal, surely she could accept the fact that the ML could survive any kind of attack during warfare and escape 🙃😆
Replying to eli Jul 22, 2024
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Currently at episode 6 of the double and it feels lowkey mid. Does it get better?
It doesn’t sound like you will enjoy the rest of the drama. You have even passed episode five, which was one of the many climaxes.
Replying to Suaia Jul 22, 2024
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CDrama of 2024 for me!Enjoyed every moment except the tragic ending of cheng & Fu
Can you hide this behind a spoiler, please? Thank you.
Replying to Reset Jul 22, 2024
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No no no no. Not every tale can be told in 25 hours. The Story of Minglan and Story of Yanxi palace would not…
And I am not really arguing about just the women’s gazegenre. Men, too, have found freedom in writing longer, richer novels that could not be adapted into two hour dramas. Joy of Life would be destroyed if it is squeezed into a two hour movie.
Replying to Reset Jul 22, 2024
Title The Double
No no no no. Not every tale can be told in 25 hours. The Story of Minglan and Story of Yanxi palace would not…
But that’s a Wuxia novel, male gaze, TWENTY chapters long. Most of the ones being adapted today are hundreds Of chapters long. One is serialized by the patriarchy newspaper while other ones written in the new genre of the female gaze found its movement on the Internet, where women are given the chance to express what they wanted to read and to show women’s stories are just as rich and interesting. It is apples and oranges.
Replying to Reset Jul 22, 2024
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No no no no. Not every tale can be told in 25 hours. The Story of Minglan and Story of Yanxi palace would not…
LOL Not at all. It's just the last few years, the new rules had destroyed so many good books/dramas that many, for years, had so looked forward to being adapted.

Let's pick an example, a controversial one. Let's pretend Gone With The Wind had never been made and that it's still OK to make movies without the words "woke" or "whitewashing" attached to them. Back in those days in the 30s, the book was revered by many readers--southerners and romance readers--for its sweeping saga on a "bygone (romanticized) era" and in the forefront was, of course, the epic love story of a woman who lived through those times. Instead of the long three hours or more of that movie (the audience actually was given a bathroom break), it had to be edited down to suit today's audience's short attention span of one hour and forty minutes. And let's say there was a ban on the talk of war because the government said so.

Can you imagine the outcry of many who loved that book if such a movie were to be made with those limitations? The southerners would cry over the loss of their history and the romance lovers would be left bereft of their FL's epic scenes of yelling to the heavens, "I'll never go hungry again!" in the middle of the epic war. Because the arbitrary one hour and forty minutes would mutilate the core essence of that book.

Some books aren't meant to be mutilated. This book, made today, of course would be very different from the original version that I grew up with, but I'm only picking it as an example because of its epic popularity during those days.

Many of the novels being adapted by the production companies now are "epic" in such a sense--written in an era when the free flow of ideas in the new world of Internet were not curtailed, seen by women as their bastion of freedom because books by men for men were all around them. These novels were a new genre, created specifically for women, written uniquely for women. They are now called novels from the female gaze (as opposed to novels from the male gaze/old wuxia). So these works are relatively new but have a dedicated following. The Chinese industry is also relatively new--it started its golden era from the 90s when the great Hong Kong TVB golden era started to decline. After redoing so many of the old wuxia stories, it found a treasure trove on the Internet--these grand novels with a dedicated fan base. And here lies the Golden Goose with the problem :). You have million dollar eggs waiting to be laid, but you cannot shortchange the special food for the goose :). LOL.

It's truly a unique problem, if one would view it from a different lens, my friend. Have a good night. As usual, I spout steam while I drink tea.
Replying to Reset Jul 22, 2024
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No no no no. Not every tale can be told in 25 hours. The Story of Minglan and Story of Yanxi palace would not…
I see your point too and I agree that many are too long. But until there comes a new generation of better script writers, ones trained to not throw spaghetti on the wall when they run out of room/time, I don't see how, except for a few, these shows will be successful outside the Chinese diaspora. Sooner or later, audiences would be critiquing about those weird last three or four episodes LOL. But hey, I live in hope that things would improve, along with the odd censorship orders coming from the Man Behind The Curtain.
Replying to Reset Jul 22, 2024
Title The Double
No no no no. Not every tale can be told in 25 hours. The Story of Minglan and Story of Yanxi palace would not…
Yanxi Palace also had some censored episodes. This was before the 40 episodes limitation, of course, but the end arc with the Chenbi was changed and shortened a lot. Because Chenbi was supposed to be the version of the Uyghur concubine (Hsiang) and because of what was happening politically at that time, the writers had to rewrite and cut a lot of Jia Ni's part out.

But that drama was one of my addiction! What an epic revenge quest!
Replying to PsychoCat31 Jul 22, 2024
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The ending is too cliffhanger and it’s making you feel like there should be a second round.
There is a five-minute episode 40.5 to make sure the viewers see the happy couple happy with a kid.
Replying to Reset Jul 22, 2024
Title The Double
No no no no. Not every tale can be told in 25 hours. The Story of Minglan and Story of Yanxi palace would not…
The loss of momentum. It doesn't seem to work the same way as Western TV, where we anticipate the next season (like Breaking Bad). Take Lost You Forever, for instance. The one year in between slowed the momentum of the excitement of that drama's intriguing setup of three men and one woman and also, everyone rushed to read the book, and after finding out who the final CP was, didn't tune in this season because either they weren't interested any more or they didn't like who she ended up with. Most Western annual continuation of their dramas mostly weren't adapted from books. The writers were actual script writers, sitting down between season to plot out the next arcs.
Replying to Enzek Jul 22, 2024
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Not really, the rule of 40 episodes for one drama is actually short for Chinese costume dramas especially if the…
I'm not happy.
Replying to Enzek Jul 22, 2024
Title The Double
Not really, the rule of 40 episodes for one drama is actually short for Chinese costume dramas especially if the…
My bitter cup runneth over.