Midnight_Blue

Team Thyme, because I can relate to him with his dysfunctional family and his behavior. Furthermore, because of his behavior most people are going to automatically misunderstand him not see things from his perspective.

No, the engagement was more of them staying friends because Keua is lonely since he didn't have friends nor any siblings at the time. And Hia promised his grandfather that he would take care of him. Even though, Kuea at a young age wanted to marry him.

Thank you, I was looking for this comment and I 99% agree with you. The other 1% is that I do think Gorya is in love with Thyme. But, he loves her more than she loves him. Gorya still hasn't been honest and straightforward with her feelings. On the other hand, I'm so sick and tired of her noble idiocy as well. I have felt this way since ep 7 and 8. I just hate the fact the most seem to want to see things from Gorya's perspective but don't want to see things from his. All he wanted her to do is to wait patiently until he sorted things out with Lita and she goes making a big deal out of things. Furthermore, she does come off as selfish because he tried his hardest to understand her world in order to be a better person for her and also for himself. Yet, for some reason she doesn't want to do the same. In general, I hate when they have good moments together and something bad happens then she goes moving the golf post making it harder for him to love her. If I was Thyme (realistically), I would have been thrown in the towel. #stillteamgorya

I disagree with the fact that Rosalyn was smart, she was actually dumb. Because the reason she picked Lita was because she felt like Lita resembled Gorya, which was why she told her parent's that it was fine for her acting Lively because Thyme has a type for girls like that. Which Gorya is nothing like Lita because Gorya is calm, humble and self-aware unlike Lita. I agree that Lita does resemble Thyme but before he matured. The only reason Gorya likes Lita is because she is just like Thyme but a nicer version. However, she lacks normality the way Thyme did in the beginning. The whole purpose of Roselyn marrying Thyme to her is so that Gorya could keep on doubting herself since Thyme and Lita understand each other. Since they both are rich and have parent's that only cares about their business and not their children's happiness.

It was the hairstyle for me, like father like son.

Yes, even in the chinese version they explored more with his commitment issues. I can't wait until the next episode and how they are going to take their relationship. Cause, I know he does make Kaning cry in the car when he reveals to her about his first love. But, I hope it's a happy ending for them.

Yeah, so far it's been 3 times. Two with Kaning being involved and 1 in an isolated situation. But, I low key want to see how dark his character can get. Unlike Thyme, I like how Kavin has this flower boy look to himself and being handsome yet he is manipulative. I feel like if I was in Gorya's situation, I wouldn't be afraid of Thyme because he already shows who he is. You can't be afraid of something that you already know.

I disagree, in the Japanese version specifically it was called off but of course it wasn't explicitly done the way that the Thai verson did it. In the Thai verson, everything is done explicitly unlike the other versions. Because at this point, you're supposed to already know the premise of the story. In the Japanese version, there wasn't any room for the any bullying to go on since the Male lead left to go to New York in the second season. Furthermore, he was getting engage right around that time, so the female lead didn't attend school often neither did the F4 members. And in the end, everyone who attended the school was invited to their wedding including those who harmed them. The male lead didn't have to announced it because it just stopped due to his growth as a character. Idk, if this explanation made sense.

I actually think Kavin is the most dangerous one out of all of them with thyme being the second and Ren being the third. Kavin is literally embodies if "don't judge a book by its cover" was a person.

Thank you for expressing the same sentiments, but people like this needs to get called out because I could understand he/she says that they simply didn't like the show. However, the fact that they disrespected teenager's and their intellectual mind much less their taste was unhealthy might I even say toxic. I'm tired of "teenagers" being the butt of every joke when it comes to our interest. It's okay when men watch their favorite sports team and they loose and throw a tantrum. But it's a problem for teenagers to like boy bands, anime, or tv shows/movies while just minding our business. The funny part is that I started watching this show as a child and enjoyed. Of course, now I'm an adult who still enjoys this show. So, I don't know why he/she thinks that this show is limited to one age group.

Why are you stating the obvious? Most people who are watching this show already know how toxic some of the stuff is as they have made 4 remakes of this show and will continue to remake it every so often. I don't understand how you're mad that 'teenagers' consumes this, as if teenagers can't have something to escape from reality whether that be books, TV shows/movies. are even music Again, most of these 'said' teenagers know that this is not something to aspire to as most of the people here have watched/read the original or watched the other adaptation. I suggest you to not watch something you obviously don't know nothing about or at least try to understand the story. Because you act like bullying and violence doesn't happen as I for one can relate to this show. As I have been bullied and my bullies have liked me as they thought being mean was a way to show that they liked someone. So, please stop trying to downplay others experience when it comes to bullying. Every time "teenagers'' like something people like you have to make fun of it or scrutinize it.

Yes, Ren and Mira was indeed in a relationship. But. They weren't sleeping together but rather being more scene together. Especially the way they portrayed it in the show and other versions. The reasons as to them breaking up was obviously for the same reasons her wanting to go to law school. However, she felt like gorya would be a nice pick for him because gorya was very much like her in a sense and she could tell they had some type of interest in one another. I wouldn't say that her intentions were selfish but it gave Ren's character a new meaning of wanting to go out and experience things. Because he is very distant and some what Mysterious. So, I feel like her sacrifice was for a great cause.

Exactly, I just felt so bad for Thyme because Gorya went way to far. I just hate how people don't say nothing about her shoving him. Especially, when this time she is wrong when he tried to protect her dignity.

For real, however she was my favorite mother since she was crazy as well and she looked the part. The processor to her is obvious the Thai version since she looks scary as well. I'll probably crap my pants with them being my mother, I don't know how they are married. 😂

Yeah, I just realized thank you. It had been a minute since I have watched it, also I was confused since him and Tsukasa had such a close relationship. Also Ken didn't actually die Tsukasa's mother made him fake his death. So, he could start his own business. 😅🤦🏽‍♀️

I think it was his grandfather the original founder of the company. But, he was seen briefly in a flashback. 😅

Lol, I think the Japanese and Thai version are similar since it seems like the Thai is taking notes from the Japanese version. But I think they are equally as good and both are the best in my opinion. The Japanese is timeless.

In the Japanese version, he committed suicide which led to him (ML) becoming lonely due to his mother having to take over the company and being busy on business trips. It was kind of implied that he was close to his father since he was very determined through several flash backs.

1. "His character motives are confusing. I don’t understand how easy for him to just pursue Gorya, when in previous ep he hesitant to stop the bully of Gorya (when she almost shaved her head). Considering he is very aware that he needs to keep his status in school, I wish I see him more struggling to come to that conclusion to freely pursue Gorya. "

Just like any relationship it's not easy pursuing someone taking into account that Thyme doesn't have any experience, which his sister told Gorya that she has never seen her brother chase anyone. Also, when it comes to him being hesitant on stopping the bullying, he was confused on his feelings for her even though he liked her the moment that she stood up to him. Again, this goes back to him having lack of experience on what love is, cause his mother isn't nurturing the way that a mother should. When it comes to his status at the school, it doesn't matter because he comes from the most powerful family in Thailand, so who would dare stand up to him? Which is why he fell for Gorya because she was the only one and she stood her ground.

2. "And again this drama is very preachy and Chessy… I’m so annoyed with 500-baht dinner talk when Gorya said “This could feed my whole family!” and how it's kind of implied that Gorya shouldn’t look away from problem (ie. problematic F4) and “need” to change them. Ummmh… Why changing other people has become other people responsibility"

She is not changing them, which I do hate that message especially to women that "our job is to simply change a man." All the F4 members have this toxic mindset when it comes to their lives, which because their rich they think they have to comply with the life that their parents have in store for them. Which Gorya told 1st Ren that if you are not happy with something instead of sulking around about it, do something about it.

3. Hmmm... actually I'm not really keen with the message of this drama, like we need to grow up (but what does grow up means?) and doing things for greater good (but the way they deliver it is very very preachy)

The message of this drama including the other versions and original is not to grow up. There are many messages in this drama. However, the whole growing up thing was for Thyme to realize that he is not a kid no more and his mother is going to soon want him to marry who she chooses and so now it's his job to pursue someone that HE (HIMSELF) is genuinely in love with. Which all of the members are childish not just Thyme because Kavin as yet to stop his playboy ways. As for doing things for the greater good, Kavin, Mj, and Thyme even though they do things with good intentions they just go about it the wrong way. Which this comes from the fact that because they are rich, they don't know how to do things the right way.
I tried to answer some of your questions to my best of my ability.

To be honest, I agree with everything you said. I don't understand the obsession that people have with the whole "Second Male Lead syndrome". It's very annoying because it just drops the bar for what we expect out of men. It's always because "he is nice to the female lead" as if people don't deserve to be treated kindly unless otherwise. Furthermore, most second male leads are trash, and nobody says nothing about it. Because they are nice and of course handsome. As someone who understand/ knows about HYD (BOF) lore, Ren isn't much of a second male lead. He really isn't much of an option for Gorya the way I see it from watching the 2005 Japanese ver. Of course, in that version the shoving doesn't happen, but he does still get mad. When I saw that scene, it made me feel that the director might just have wanted to add some layers to his personality as he is not "perfect" and does have emotions. Since as a child, he didn't get upset with Thyme when he broke his favorite doll. Now, Ren leaving to go chase Mira to France was his biggest down fall. Because, when Ren starts having feelings for Gorya, she is going to already be in love with Thyme. Since he left it gave Thyme and her a chance to get closer and get to know each other better. Furthermore, Gorya is going to have a moment where she gets confused on how she feels at one point. But it will all make sense in the end.