There's a difference between no kissing and ruining the development of the story line with no kissing, because…
"I take issue with humanity's inability, in general, to deal with a natural part of our existence"
Naturalistic fallacy
It's not legitimate to draw a moral conclusion of a prescriptive nature from factual premises only, insofar as these statements are of a different nature
The careless passing from "is" (it's natural or unnatural) to "ought" (it ought to be done) gnaws at me. Though sexuality is natural, it's not "moral" or "immoral" to be a prude shocked by matters relating to sexuality or nudity. Even if it were, wouldn't it be more immoral for you to be inconsiderate of the feelings of the prudish people uncomfortable with NSFW content?
"... sexuality and physical intimacy no matter the orientation"
NSFW "straight" content is everywhere, much to my dismay. Even thriller Korean dramas, Connect and The Glory, profited from them. It's NSFW gay content that society shies away from. No equivalence can be drawn between the two
Allow me to lay my cards on the table; it's NSFW "straight" content I discard as useless and unwanted. Not NSFW gay content
"I get there are people who feel they are owed, the people that are into fan service, most likely. I hate fan service, it's so exploitative"
Fanservice is a smart marketing strategy. People want to see their favorite celebrities together. The celebrities agree to act like they are together to excite or titillate their fans. They earn money. And our ships sail. It's a win-win, and not any more "exploitative" than acting as a whole
5 signs Sung Woong and Kyung Ho are a power couple:
Sung Woong slammed Kyung Ho up against a wall (episode 3), showered with Kyung Ho (episode 4), carried Kyung Ho in his arms (episode 5) and fed Kyung Ho (episode 5)
The two men synchronized and thought the same things in episode 2
"I drank too much, since I broke up with that bastard"
Poor Ho Gyun (Ji Hoon)
They should have paired him up with Roshin (Wan) so that he wouldn't drown his sorrows and cycle through the 5 stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance) every day
Exactly. Except I'd go further and say that not only are they not being brave to be in a BL, but it's the exact…
The boys didn't have to publicly announce their identities to represent the gay community
Ye Chan (Tae Hyun) was always irresistible and engulfing to Jae Han (Da Yeol). In the school infirmary, he held the other's gaze, covertly attending to the other as the other attended to him
The eye contact was an exchange both mutual and reciprocal; mutual, because it was the shared experience between two men, and reciprocal, because it was the simultaneous give-and-take of trust. That established a psychological contact comparable to touching and kissing
They were in love. And this was a BL. Their tongues may hide the truth, but their eyes, never
"Also, who here said anything about exploitation?"
Exactly. Except I'd go further and say that not only are they not being brave to be in a BL, but it's the exact…
I will agree that we should be wary of no-kissing clauses
Explicit male-on-male activities featured in the public domain speak a language of revolution unsullied by the anti-gay agenda of present-day civilization. They are a better alternative to BLs in which physical closeness appears as something of an addendum
BL's rise to prominence will solve the problem. The more idols star in BLs, the more agencies will be called upon to make fundamental changes in their outlooks on, and behaviour towards, the gay community
Exactly. Except I'd go further and say that not only are they not being brave to be in a BL, but it's the exact…
"... exploiting the BL wave to advance their careers"
To exploit is to take unfair advantage, and what counts as unfair advantage? BLs appeal to a small, specialized section of the population. Nugu idols would have secured more advantages from starring in mainstream Korean dramas that appeal to the homophobic majority
Openly gay people are under-represented in comparison to their rate and stereotyped as "sinful." The idols you and Snow speak ill of were brave to represent them
They (intentionally or unintentionally) quench our thirst for a rich and meaningful understanding of human experience while advancing their career. There is no unfair division of advantages from their interaction with the gay community, and so nothing that qualifies as morally objectionable "exploitation"
So I read the whole webtoon after episode 1 (because I was this annoyed with Jo Tae Hyun and wanted to find out…
"It shows that no, love cannot heal you. It can be great source of strength and support, but it's not the solution"
A love that affirms the self in its proper or authentic state makes possible the blending and mending of wounded men (or women). This affirmation rests on the recognition of the partner's wholeness in the state in which they are most themselves
Ye Chan (Tae Hyun) and Jae Han (Da Yeol) would have to be themselves; to trust each other, address their insecurities and reconcile the jarring elements of their minds
Love does not exist where there is no trust, nor does it have the capacity for healing transformations, as you said
Girl, are you from a corn field? Because he's an adult. An adult would rather harvest you and sell you to someone else
Naturalistic fallacy
It's not legitimate to draw a moral conclusion of a prescriptive nature from factual premises only, insofar as these statements are of a different nature
The careless passing from "is" (it's natural or unnatural) to "ought" (it ought to be done) gnaws at me. Though sexuality is natural, it's not "moral" or "immoral" to be a prude shocked by matters relating to sexuality or nudity. Even if it were, wouldn't it be more immoral for you to be inconsiderate of the feelings of the prudish people uncomfortable with NSFW content?
"... sexuality and physical intimacy no matter the orientation"
NSFW "straight" content is everywhere, much to my dismay. Even thriller Korean dramas, Connect and The Glory, profited from them. It's NSFW gay content that society shies away from. No equivalence can be drawn between the two
Allow me to lay my cards on the table; it's NSFW "straight" content I discard as useless and unwanted. Not NSFW gay content
"I get there are people who feel they are owed, the people that are into fan service, most likely. I hate fan service, it's so exploitative"
Fanservice is a smart marketing strategy. People want to see their favorite celebrities together. The celebrities agree to act like they are together to excite or titillate their fans. They earn money. And our ships sail. It's a win-win, and not any more "exploitative" than acting as a whole
"A maniac against a maniac. You two make a perfect couple (커플, kopeul)"
Even Byung Chul had eyes and saw that Jin Hyuk and Hyun Min are made for each other
Sung Woong slammed Kyung Ho up against a wall (episode 3), showered with Kyung Ho (episode 4), carried Kyung Ho in his arms (episode 5) and fed Kyung Ho (episode 5)
The two men synchronized and thought the same things in episode 2
Snow picked a fight with everyone else. And you did what you could to disarm him with humor
That's how I feel about any "straight" content
Poor Ho Gyun (Ji Hoon)
They should have paired him up with Roshin (Wan) so that he wouldn't drown his sorrows and cycle through the 5 stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance) every day
Ye Chan (Tae Hyun) was always irresistible and engulfing to Jae Han (Da Yeol). In the school infirmary, he held the other's gaze, covertly attending to the other as the other attended to him
The eye contact was an exchange both mutual and reciprocal; mutual, because it was the shared experience between two men, and reciprocal, because it was the simultaneous give-and-take of trust. That established a psychological contact comparable to touching and kissing
They were in love. And this was a BL. Their tongues may hide the truth, but their eyes, never
"Also, who here said anything about exploitation?"
Refer to the comment above: https://kisskh.at/724779-a-shoulder-to-cry-on#comment-12733497
"They are just two more low tier idols exploiting the BL wave to advance their careers while waiting to hit mainstream"
I'm kidding, he's just everywhere
Explicit male-on-male activities featured in the public domain speak a language of revolution unsullied by the anti-gay agenda of present-day civilization. They are a better alternative to BLs in which physical closeness appears as something of an addendum
BL's rise to prominence will solve the problem. The more idols star in BLs, the more agencies will be called upon to make fundamental changes in their outlooks on, and behaviour towards, the gay community
You'd have to unblock Snow to see the comment
To exploit is to take unfair advantage, and what counts as unfair advantage? BLs appeal to a small, specialized section of the population. Nugu idols would have secured more advantages from starring in mainstream Korean dramas that appeal to the homophobic majority
Openly gay people are under-represented in comparison to their rate and stereotyped as "sinful." The idols you and Snow speak ill of were brave to represent them
They (intentionally or unintentionally) quench our thirst for a rich and meaningful understanding of human experience while advancing their career. There is no unfair division of advantages from their interaction with the gay community, and so nothing that qualifies as morally objectionable "exploitation"
https://www.bomtoon.com/comic/ep_list/cheerup_bo/
A love that affirms the self in its proper or authentic state makes possible the blending and mending of wounded men (or women). This affirmation rests on the recognition of the partner's wholeness in the state in which they are most themselves
Ye Chan (Tae Hyun) and Jae Han (Da Yeol) would have to be themselves; to trust each other, address their insecurities and reconcile the jarring elements of their minds
Love does not exist where there is no trust, nor does it have the capacity for healing transformations, as you said
Why not both? I support women and feminine men, GLs and BLs
It's the best of both worlds