Why do you assume this is a plot-hole? I'm sure as the show goes on they will tell his back story.
Thanks for your response. I really appreciate how, when I made a negative comment, people responded with legitimate arguments.
I guess on some level, I just fail to comprehend how someone can live while not working, or without any other clear source of income. That's just not a plain of existence I've ever personally encountered, and I completely forgot that it was a possibility.
I'm thinking of starting this how is it generally (ik it's been only 2 eps so far though)
I like it. The actors are great (I might be biased, but they're some of my favourites because they can really act), the main leads have a hilarious dynamic and their characters are complex and quite morally grey. It has a very serious tone, there's some typical rich baddies, but the mystery is absolutely intriguing.
Also, neither the script nor the sound-track have made me cringe once, which personally, is quite rare.
Why do you assume this is a plot-hole? I'm sure as the show goes on they will tell his back story.
Because I don't trust that it will be addressed. It's such a nagging illogical thing that I struggle to enjoy the drama as it is. I've watched dramas in the past with similar plot-holes, and they don't get fixed, they just get worse. It is a plot-hole because things do not make sense as they are. If they do intend to address this, the writers should have been clearer about it from the start.
no big mouse wasn't a flop people like you will never be happy with anything
Big Mouse was a flop for some people. Even though I usually love those genres, I found Big Mouse incredibly tedious, and despite trying, I could not understand the hype. It was popular for some reason, but not everyone could find that reason.
Well. Both lead actors are brilliant, and they have pretty good chemistry (to my inexpert eye)... It is obvious that one of the main focuses of this series will be their developing relationship, but whether that turns romantic... is well, not necessary for the genre. It's really too early to tell. I am confident there won't be much, if there's any.
Awesome. The ML is one of my top 3 favourite Korean actors, and the FL has always been consistently solid as well. The tone is perfect, and the genres are my bread and butter. I can tell this won't be popular with everyone, but I have high hopes for this. I know I'm going to love it.
Looks like one of the most skippable dramas ever, no offence.
yeah, I think I'll only check it out if it receives absolutely raving positive reviews and if I just need to watch something fluffy and inconsequential. Even then, I won't be watching this week-to-week, probably only after it's finished.
Okay, there's plenty of little things I'm not quite sold on, but I love love love the FL's bold outfits. Particularly that red-blue-yellow number she wears to go look at the cafe, I need it. This person totally uses her clothes as armour, and as someone who does the same thing, I love her for it! (aside from her hideous shaggy jacket that she encounters the ML in, that makes my eyes bleed) ...
I know why you're struggling. You didn't read the novel on which it's based on. I don't know if you did read it…
There is dragging, and then there is dragging. In slow dramas, the quiet scenes are still telling the story, just without any high-adrenalin action. Dragging depends on the genre, and what the viewers should expect. I don't like it either. A true scene that drags can be categorised as filler and does not build on the main narrative.
Basically, it's like comparing literary fiction with genre fiction. The first is character driven, usually far more introspective, and the second is far more plot driven, usually much faster paced.
What is "dragging" depends on the genre and the kind of story that is being told. And the expectation that this sets up in the audience. Slow dramas can still drag immensely, but I find the good ones to be just as riveting as fast-action thrillers. They are simply a very different experience.
I know why you're struggling. You didn't read the novel on which it's based on. I don't know if you did read it…
Hm, I do like slow dramas. Slice of Life is one my favourite genres, and The Story of Ming Lan was one of the first Cdramas to actually hold my attention. I used to watch new episodes twice, first impatiently without subtitles, then with... Although, when I like slow, I also like quiet scenes and realism - and I often like to get fight scenes over with, so I don't enjoy it when they are drawn out, as I care far more about the outcome than the process.
Thanks for the recommendation. That's a Kdrama I haven't really paid much attention to, but I know it's popular to some so I guess I'll check it out eventually. After I finish TU and WoH and some others.
I know why you're struggling. You didn't read the novel on which it's based on. I don't know if you did read it…
Hm, I believe a good adaption should be engaging with no knowledge of the source material. Often, I find adaptions easier to enjoy if I don't have the (usually better) source to compare it to. I'm now at episode 22 of this, and it is slowly becoming more engaging. I decided to trust that there must be some reason behind its immense popularity, as I'm sure there are many who enjoyed it without previous knowledge of the story.
I think the problem was the pacing. There are a of scenes that could be condensed, the early antagonists are incredibly dull, and the combat is just, I find it so boring and drawn out and lacking any kind of tension. But if I kind of fast forward the action scenes, and go straight to the scenes where the characters are talking or doing other stuff, it's enjoyable enough.
He's probably one of my top 3 favourite actors. I generally don't take much notice of specific actors (so many talented people out there), but he is one of the few that if I see him in the cast, I will seriously consider watching just to see him act. I'm excited to see him get more lead roles.
Well, I haven't finished either yet (I suck at finishing things in a timely manner, and watch many things simultaneously),…
Well, I can't speak about the ending of either drama... or how they compare past the initial 20 episodes... I have yet to get there, though I intend to some day.
But I know what you mean about Cdramas - in the past, I've often found them incredibly difficult to get into and enjoy. And because they are so long, even if they are great at the beginning, that quality is rarely maintained through it all. Like, 40-60 episodes average of a show that drags is a lot to ask. I just try everything that interests me for a few episodes, and if it keeps me hooked, I might try to finish it - this results in at least half the dramas I ever start being dropped though haha.
There's something about costume Cdramas that make me keep coming back despite being burned so many times, though - there's just an element (don't ask me to point it out, maybe the scale?) that I cannot find in any other kind of drama.
Can someone tell me if Word of honor is similar to this, quality wise? I am about to finish Tu and I need something…
Well, I haven't finished either yet (I suck at finishing things in a timely manner, and watch many things simultaneously), but it's definitely the closest I have encountered. Personally, I found WoH much easier to get into, and the characters just as compelling. They are, of course, still quite different.
I guess on some level, I just fail to comprehend how someone can live while not working, or without any other clear source of income. That's just not a plain of existence I've ever personally encountered, and I completely forgot that it was a possibility.
You made some very good points.
Also, neither the script nor the sound-track have made me cringe once, which personally, is quite rare.
Basically, it's like comparing literary fiction with genre fiction. The first is character driven, usually far more introspective, and the second is far more plot driven, usually much faster paced.
What is "dragging" depends on the genre and the kind of story that is being told. And the expectation that this sets up in the audience. Slow dramas can still drag immensely, but I find the good ones to be just as riveting as fast-action thrillers. They are simply a very different experience.
Thanks for the recommendation. That's a Kdrama I haven't really paid much attention to, but I know it's popular to some so I guess I'll check it out eventually. After I finish TU and WoH and some others.
I think the problem was the pacing. There are a of scenes that could be condensed, the early antagonists are incredibly dull, and the combat is just, I find it so boring and drawn out and lacking any kind of tension. But if I kind of fast forward the action scenes, and go straight to the scenes where the characters are talking or doing other stuff, it's enjoyable enough.
But I know what you mean about Cdramas - in the past, I've often found them incredibly difficult to get into and enjoy. And because they are so long, even if they are great at the beginning, that quality is rarely maintained through it all. Like, 40-60 episodes average of a show that drags is a lot to ask. I just try everything that interests me for a few episodes, and if it keeps me hooked, I might try to finish it - this results in at least half the dramas I ever start being dropped though haha.
There's something about costume Cdramas that make me keep coming back despite being burned so many times, though - there's just an element (don't ask me to point it out, maybe the scale?) that I cannot find in any other kind of drama.