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But this series, hasn't been categorized as a BL.

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I think that all three of them, will have to move on separately from each other, especially Wimol, so that they can try to heal. Wimol doesn't want to live in her truth. In can't seem to want to let go of his guilt, grief, or pain, to allow himself the right to be free. While Wang, wants to be able to be free, live his life, love the man that he's in love with, and try to create a new bond with his mother, without being suffocated by her love.

I know that there are some viewers, that truly believe other viewers are being "too hard on her". I understand why Wimol is so clingy, and desperate in wanting to keep Wang with her now. But all of that behavior, will make Wang determined to keep his distance from her.

I, personally don't think, or feel that In and Wang are supposed to end up together. I think that Wang totally believes that he's in love with In. I feel that there is a bond/connection that Wang has regarding the shared feelings of love, that he and his father have for In. Yet, as much as Wang wants In, to break free of the guilt, shame, and shackles he has been raised under in Thai society, In won't be able to do that for Wang. In needs to find some comfort in coming to terms with accepting his sexuality, after decades of denial. I also feel, that In wants to be absolutely sure, that his feelings towards Wang are for him, and not as a replacement for Siam.

I also agree, that this situation, is not at all entirely Wimol's "fault". The women in Thailand, and Asian/Southeast Asian countries, are raised to believe, that they are the ideal, and that as long as they appeal physically towards a male, that man is obligated to accept their affection. There's no possibility, that their "competition" could be a man. That's not a BL synopsis. That's a reality. This series, isn't a BL at all.

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Another amazing episode.

"If we can't talk about Dad, can we talk about me?!" Wang has probably spent most of his youth, trying to figure out, why his Dad and Mom never really seemed to be "in love with one another". When his Dad tragically died, Wimol, out of her grief, confusion, and the fear of finally seeing the truth, in her failed relationship with Siam, sent Wang away, so that she could just throw herself, into her career.

She begs In to "give back her son", but she sent him away. She's the one, that refuses to listen to her son, in what he's tried to say to her, in so many ways: "He isn't his Dad. He's his OWN person!"

In, even after only a short time with Wang, was able to see it. Wang purposely made In see Wang, as not another version of Siam. Wang also woke up, something that had been dormant inside of In, since Siam's death. That In wants to be alive. Wants to be apart of the world, that he spent decades isolating himself.

What I really love about this series, is that it presents something that I have wanted to see explored in other BLs: The idea that your life isn't yours. That you "owe" something to your parents, families, society. The frustration that Wang has, in regards to his Mom, wanting/needing/demanding that he not be true to himself. Her behavior is pushing him away.

Earth and Santa did an amazing job, in that scene between Eiw, and Cake revealing that he was moving to America. Cake knew that once he told the truth, that would make the move a reality. Cake telling Eiw, not to cry, as he is breaking down in tears was moving.

I even loved the performances of Afterday and Peak. Hom, finally acknowledging her real feelings for Kung, knowing that they would be fodder for the nosy and gossipy bitties in their neighborhood, if she let anything go further than friendship between them.

I know that a ton of viewers have issues with anything, and everything that Earth has done in terms of the physicality/personality/emotional age of the Eiw character, but I want to applaud him, and the director for not shying away from displaying Eiw's effeminacy.

I just loved this strange, yet touching show!! That 3rd Generation Boss is determined to have his Aoyama in his future.

I believe that Khan has been wanting to show his true feelings towards Than. It just took the presence of Akk, to get him to see that if he wants more than just being Than's "best friend", he's going to have to get out of his comfort zone. Than was never going to make the first move, because he doesn't want Khan to be even more affected by the rest of the students believing that he is his "wife". It was also nice to see how much Khan really does want the best for Than. He was jealous of how close Than and Akk seemed to be, but he didn't go after them in a violent and jealous rage over their friendship. If Than was really interested in pursuing a relationship with Akk, Khan would have put his unrequited feelings aside, and found a way to support him 100%.

Khan knew exactly what he was doing, next to Than in that tent. His joy was so evident. He's been wanting to kiss him for awhile now. Neo has been excellent in this role, and I hope that GMMTV sees that he can do more than just the comedic "side-kick" characters.

"At some point watching "Love By Chance 2: A Chance to Love" (2020) I wanted to stuff a pacifier (i.e. binky, wookie, dummy, soother) into Can's mouth and be done with it, he was giving off such Little Boy vibes."

LMAO and so true about that character.

I'm going to say it: It is weird, because I can totally understand people being curious about the personal lives of these actors, but we are not "owed" to be informed of everything they do offscreen.

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You may never know. We have 2 more segments to go in this series.

"And one of the screen writers was actually a BL actor who has been and seen a lot of these happenings and even the acting coach and director have seen it in real life when working with actors."

When the characters of P and Dew are shown observing and/or commentating on what's been happening with the storylines for "New Ship" and "War of Managers", I feel like the narrators are telling the audience to seriously not believe that everything is wonderful, and perfect within the fantasy world of BL. That it's an act, a job, and something that needs a bit of perspective. It's fun, exciting, and fabulous to see how this genre has developed since 2013/2014 with "Love Sick: The Series", but look at the current careers of both White and Captain. Weren't those two young male actors the first BL couple that started it all? According to their actor profiles on MDL, Captain (who's only 24 years of age!!) isn't under contract with any Thai production company, since Nadao Bangkok folded in June 2022. He's had one series per year since 2018. While White (who is 27 years old) has been regulated to supporting roles under GMMTV since 2019. They're working, but not at the rate or level of let's say, Krist (I'm not his fangurl!). Who has had between 2 to 4 series (in a main lead role) a year, since 2018.

Don't shut up. I've had the very same thoughts about wanting to see older characters in these BLs, so that we can get a different plot, some sort of adult storyline, in a setting, that's outside of the high school/university. Along, with the potential of seeing how these actors continue to age within the Thai BL industry. We are getting these different settings in BLs out of Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. Yet with Thailand, it's either feast or famine.

As for the fan service, I don't think, that part of this industry, will ever go away. I don't think the production companies want it to stop (they don't need to come up with ways to pay these actors a big enough salary for them to live on, during the timeframe of them not having an on-air project). The managers don't want it to stop (extra money for their talent, and themselves). These actors NEED this extra "free" cash, gifts, food etc., so they know that they have to play along in this never-ending cycle. A big portion of the fans don't want it to stop.

I think that there will definitely be more focus on the "fighting in FC rival camps" with the 3rd part of this saga, with the upcoming "Y-Idol".

Lordt. This is some crazy (but sadly true) behavior being shown between Toon & Pla. Their battle goes beyond further establishing the careers of Bew & Gus in the Thai BL industry. These so-called "managers" continue to leech off of "their talent", because they have nothing else to make themselves feel important or special. Toon and Pla continue to stress to Bew and Gus that they are "sellable products" with a rapidly expiring "time shelf" in this industry. That they will be replaced, with the next newest, marketable "doll/smol boy/stud".

I wonder, if this newly based "partnership" between Bew, and Gus will ultimately get themselves truly freed from their leeches, or will it end up with them being destroyed. I'm not talking about the future of their careers. I'm referring to them ever being able to trust anyone ever again.

That's a good one. Made me chuckle. 😃

It's still a wound, because of all the guilt that In has kept inside of him, for not being able to accept the love that Siam had for him back then. How In kept saying that he was a "coward", reveals that he hasn't forgiven himself for what happened.