Is this guy the dad or just a burglar playing pretend dad from a hunch? Look at what he's been doing. Rummaging around everywhere in the complex. Even if he's the actual dad, he looks like he might have seen his son being brought up on that interview as successful and probably came to get a chunk of money. FL forcing ML to forgive this dude warrants a 👊🏽 because these guys are simping for someone who doesn't warrant that kind of attention at this junction but will continues to do so and listen to w/e she says in the hopes that she will choose them. Idk if she's aware of that advantage but that's what I see and it's not cool. The kid is the farthest thing from her mind.
8 episodes means that things need to develop quickly with knowledge and backstories and jump right into it. It can be done but it's not easy~
I was suspect after ep1 and not feeling much better after ep2. I wanted to see this dude. His character being disillusioned with love is understandable to many when it involves being cheated on. So you automatically root for him. But a cold icy boss that needs to melted? I am absolutely tired and fed up with that trope. With all the dramas most of us take in, I guarantee this is something you're getting every week, it's in two of my others. So starting another one might not be fair to this one, I know this ppl. But it automatically gives me a bad vibe right from the start~ I watched 3 and I can't do it. I'm disappointed I can't get past what is a clear bias towards this piece, I can admit that. So maybe I'll come back to it~ Last for now is I also saw comments with remarks about how the drama looks cheap and gaudy. That's something I ignore and others might want to do the same once in awhile. There are diamonds in the rough I've seen pulled from the trenches in pieces like this. I don't think that's the case here but it's something ppl should keep in the back of their minds~
Kind of rare when the community seems to be on the same page~ I'm drawing too many parallels with Crushology, which was FLs previous drama, and I didn't like it at all. We got 2 prime males here simping for a girl that doesn't really warrant that kind of attention. She's pretty and cute but still unremarkable. The familiarity with the boss being an ex and the to living arrangement with the BIL has given her a huge advantage most women in her situation will not have~ And say what you will, I'm not an AH for throwing this out there because it's the truth..........but the categories these two are in? It's not often they will step in and pursue a woman with a child. Yet she's got 2 to of them. Men can be AHs, these women get taken advantage of most of the time, so the fact that she's stringing 2 of them who are genuine along is quite vexing~ My last gripe is that this pair isn't taking care of this kid. They're caught up in relationship drama with the kid being an afterthought. This is a piece that I thought was supposed to be about the kid, not this other bs. All this is happening over what..........a month or two? 8/12.......if you've reached this point, may as well finish the entirety of it. But I am disappointed~
Apologies. I'm a little bit confused on the wording here. What's the question?
Oooo......🤔 I don't think she pushed him out. She wouldn't and couldn't. She was never going to put her foot down and tell her bf to make that choice. She did try with him to be patient at least. He was every bit the moody hormonal teenager meeting his 'father' for the first time and was clearly jealous. If the situation stayed on the path it was first on? I think she would have waited it out until the boy returned to Germany. And Dad was already ever so softly starting to point out that his behavior was becoming a problem. You could tell Daniel hadn't been raised in SK. Actually.....I thought SHE was the one who had temporarily been pushed out? His etiquette was was abysmal. When Daniel flat out said he didn't like her, she beat a quick retreat and wasn't going to force the issues anymore. Plan B was already being thought of. But ya, after he left she could be with her dude and try again on the boys next visit if they were still together~ That trashy mom though........whew. Luckily she came by and helped to ruin the situation herself~ Did you think that was a nightmare situation for Jun? I mean, she had barely let this guy into her life after not having been in a relationship for a long time. And after not having been around kids or teens really, she's bombarded with Daniel AND the ex? Rough stuff.
I've got real mixed feelings about this drama and its ending. I'll go drop a review. But as of now, I do not think this is/was good enough to warrant a second run.
'Hypocrisy through empowerment' point is just patriarchy repackaged- it's basically the pure perfect victim rhetoric.…
Yea that's true as well. When my wife and I were watching it, her theory was/is similar to yours. As in he probably was full on grey but with a shade of it on the lighter side with the innocents/locals around him due to his long years in Italy. Familiarity I think the word is? I mean, the residents in his building were innocents for the most part ya? He still didn't hesitate to put them in harms way if it served his purpose. Doing the tasks he required to the best of their ability coupled with the time spent getting to know them made him soften up eventually. But he still would've turned on them instantly if they crossed the internal line he had set within. He really was pretty bad. Ohhh......Actually........I just thought of something. I'm thinking he was worse than the villains. Can't remember his name offhand but he and the dancing attorney were kind of straight-laced when it came to getting rid of ppl. Guns, the charcoal bricks, doom trucks 🚚etc........that was their style. But Vincent? You saw firsthand what his Mafia style was about. Slow deaths through torture and pain for w/e reasons he's surmised.
Honestly..............the skelly look might be ok for women as far as how they think they should look and standards for beauty and all but for the most part? That era died years ago and I see no need to return to it. Can't speak for all of course but most men don't find that appealing either~ Does bring something else to mind. I'm not as bothered with the 'skinny' look as I am now with the 'plastic' look. PMY has had hers for awhile now but more and more are getting their faces done. I'm legit asking why? I don't get it. Is this another part of the beauty standards they feel they need to do or what? I used to not be able to tell when face works been done. Impossible to ignore now. 🤷🏽♂️
'Hypocrisy through empowerment' point is just patriarchy repackaged- it's basically the pure perfect victim rhetoric.…
I do think rape is worse than murder too because a high % of the victims are left alive and the experience can be..............experienced over and over and over at any given time for the rest of that person's to life. Couple that with how cheap and broken punishments are when a monster is finally put away. They can be out in just a few years while victims, again, can relive it repeatedly. That's not a life anymore, it's a neverending nightmare~ Vincenzo........I loved it. Absolutely loved that drama. It's a masterpiece for me personally. While viewing that drama, most ppl did NOT question his actions to much just like FL didn't when she had been pushed too far. Those that did bring it up were actually slammed by the rest of the community who deemed everything was justified. But everything he did in SK was what he was doing before entering the country and for lesser reasons which most ppl did not account for when praising his character~
Vincenzo was evil and his soul was black. A monster. I thought he was still darker than gray when the drama ended. The only reason ppl cheered him on and said he was an ok dude is the same and only reason I could elevate him from a black evil monster to one that was darker than gray. The retaliations for some of the buildings residents and the takedown of the villain. But even than, it was for HIS benefit, everything he did was for the sole purpose of getting to that gold. I was laughing at the end. I mean, he flat out used and abused every resident and then some for what he needed and those characters cheered him on for it much like the users in the community did when defending and justifying his actions. It was great!! Hope that makes sense, I don't always have the words to keep an explanation of thoughts simple and sweet~
Whew...........rough start. Not impressed at all. I think the word cliche is an understatement for what's transpired so far. But it's not fair to dine and dash on just one ep~ ML has put in the time, so I don't begrudge him this starting role. I think this is his 1st or am I mistaken? Either way, this will not do any of the leads here any favors unless the writing takes a monumental leap forward in quality and it's gotta be fast. This is only 8 eps. Let's see what #2 brings~
Ok.......Read comments for a good hr before deciding to watch and this forums seems to be at each other's throats a tad bit more then usual. I've a pair of girls 12 and 10 and abhor any and all violence towards women and children. The only thing worse than pedos and rapists are murderers and the law is too easy to exploit and find loopholes that mitigate the harsh sentences these sick fks deserve. It's a joke. It's the reason why nothing changes and why #'s climb year by year~ My stance on these particular crimes..........Rapists shouldn't be given a chance to do it again. Castration, via chemical or physical, would definitely send the proper message along with a fat chunk of prison time spent being a toy to play with. 15 yrs or so. Those who say it's barbaric? Kindly F off.😃😃 Pedo rapists and molesters? Obviously worse. Castration and longer jail time. Murderers? That's easy. Take a life, lose your own. Period~
I also see how ppl are raging over cheaters vs rapists and stuff like that. I mean, we all KNOW what's worse. It doesn't need to be said. I wonder if that's why comments tend to poke at the cheating aspect more frequently as if to to say it's not as horrible as rape but its still bad on a personal and moral level. But sorry folks lol, cheating isn't against the law. You can talk about it all you want but it is what it is. Maybe I'm biased as a father of 2 girls but to those who think it's worse than rape? Excuse my language but y'all are F'ng crazy. Respectfully said though~ Ty for the rundown of the dramas inner workings. I will pass. It would just make me rage. Hypocrisy through empowerment is what I saw mentioned a lot too. That was a refreshing take that's going to stick with me for awhile. It made me think. The rest of y'all, enjoy the show and cya later~
How did you somehow miss when he said at the end that he's going to be atoning for his past sins in this life?…
That may be the case but that's a separate stand alone issue and the fact remains that he should have recused this specific individual case he was personally involved in since anyone can go and say his personal feelings influenced his sentencing. Guarantee IRL they would appeal and they would win hands down.
I'm not totally sure how the law applies to this but in general that's something everyone knows. The same thing applies to trials by jury. Most law dramas I've seen, including Korean, point this out when writing instants that have this within their works. The last drama I can personally recall this happening offhand was Juvenile Justice and this was the very topic the drama was all about. Check it out if you haven't seen.
I was suspect after ep1 and not feeling much better after ep2. I wanted to see this dude. His character being disillusioned with love is understandable to many when it involves being cheated on. So you automatically root for him. But a cold icy boss that needs to melted? I am absolutely tired and fed up with that trope. With all the dramas most of us take in, I guarantee this is something you're getting every week, it's in two of my others. So starting another one might not be fair to this one, I know this ppl. But it automatically gives me a bad vibe right from the start~
I watched 3 and I can't do it. I'm disappointed I can't get past what is a clear bias towards this piece, I can admit
that. So maybe I'll come back to it~
Last for now is I also saw comments with remarks about how the drama looks cheap and gaudy. That's something I ignore and others might want to do the same once in awhile. There are diamonds in the rough I've seen pulled from the trenches in pieces like this. I don't think that's the case here but it's something ppl should keep in the back of their minds~
I'm drawing too many parallels with Crushology, which was FLs previous drama, and I didn't like it at all. We got 2 prime males here simping for a girl that doesn't really warrant that kind of attention. She's pretty and cute but still unremarkable. The familiarity with the boss being an ex and the to living arrangement with the BIL has given her a huge advantage most women in her situation will not have~
And say what you will, I'm not an AH for throwing this out there because it's the truth..........but the categories these two are in? It's not often they will step in and pursue a woman with a child. Yet she's got 2 to of them. Men can be AHs, these women get taken advantage of most of the time, so the fact that she's stringing 2 of them who are genuine along is quite vexing~
My last gripe is that this pair isn't taking care of this kid. They're caught up in relationship drama with the kid being an afterthought. This is a piece that I thought was supposed to be about the kid, not this other bs. All this is happening over what..........a month or two?
8/12.......if you've reached this point, may as well finish the entirety of it. But I am disappointed~
She was never going to put her foot down and tell her bf to make that choice. She did try with him to be patient at least. He was every bit the moody hormonal teenager meeting his 'father' for the first time and was clearly jealous. If the situation stayed on the path it was first on? I think she would have waited it out until the boy returned to Germany. And Dad was already ever so softly starting to point out that his behavior was becoming a problem. You could tell Daniel hadn't been raised in SK. Actually.....I thought SHE was the one who had temporarily been pushed out? His etiquette was was abysmal. When Daniel flat out said he didn't like her, she beat a quick retreat and wasn't going to force the issues anymore. Plan B was already being thought of. But ya, after he left she could be with her dude and try again on the boys next visit if they were still together~
That trashy mom though........whew. Luckily she came by and helped to ruin the situation herself~
Did you think that was a nightmare situation for Jun? I mean, she had barely let this guy into her life after not having been in a relationship for a long time. And after not having been around kids or teens really, she's bombarded with Daniel AND the ex? Rough stuff.
the most part
ya? He still
didn't hesitate to put them in harms way if it served his purpose. Doing the tasks he required to the best of their ability coupled with the time spent getting to know them made him soften up eventually. But he still would've turned on them instantly if they crossed the internal line he had set within. He really was pretty bad.
Ohhh......Actually........I just thought of something. I'm thinking he was worse than the villains. Can't remember his name offhand but he and the dancing attorney were kind of straight-laced when it came to getting rid of ppl. Guns, the charcoal bricks, doom trucks 🚚etc........that was their
style. But Vincent? You saw firsthand what his Mafia style was about. Slow deaths through torture and pain for w/e reasons he's surmised.
Does bring something else to mind. I'm not as bothered with the 'skinny' look as I am now with the 'plastic' look. PMY has had hers for awhile now but more and more are getting their faces done. I'm legit asking why? I don't get it. Is this another part of the beauty standards they feel they need to do or what? I used to not be able to tell when face works been done. Impossible to ignore now. 🤷🏽♂️
Vincenzo........I loved it. Absolutely loved that drama. It's a masterpiece for me personally. While viewing that drama, most ppl did NOT question his actions to much just like FL didn't when she had been pushed too far. Those that did bring it up were actually slammed by the rest of the community who deemed everything was justified. But everything he did in SK was what he was doing before entering the country and for lesser reasons which most ppl did not account for when praising his character~
Vincenzo was evil
and his soul was
black. A monster. I thought he was still darker than gray when the drama
ended. The only reason ppl cheered him on and said he was an ok dude is the same and only reason
I could elevate him from a black evil monster to one that was darker than gray. The retaliations for some of the buildings residents and the takedown of the villain. But even than, it was for HIS benefit, everything he did was for the sole purpose
of getting to that
gold. I was laughing at the end. I mean, he flat out used and abused every resident and then some for what he needed and those characters cheered him on for it much like the users in the community did when defending and justifying his actions. It was great!!
Hope that makes sense, I don't always have the words to keep an explanation of thoughts simple and sweet~
ML has put in the time, so I don't begrudge him this starting role. I think this is his 1st or am I mistaken? Either way, this will not do any of the leads here any favors unless the writing takes a monumental leap forward in quality and it's gotta be fast. This is only 8 eps. Let's see what #2 brings~
My stance on these particular crimes..........Rapists shouldn't be given a chance to do it again. Castration, via chemical or physical, would definitely send the proper message along with a fat chunk of prison time spent being a toy to play with. 15 yrs or so. Those who say it's barbaric? Kindly F off.😃😃
Pedo rapists and molesters? Obviously worse. Castration and longer jail time. Murderers? That's easy. Take a life, lose your own. Period~
I also see how ppl are raging over cheaters vs rapists and stuff like that. I mean, we all KNOW what's worse. It doesn't need to be said. I wonder if that's why comments tend to poke at the cheating aspect more frequently as if to to say it's not as horrible as rape but its still bad on a personal and moral level. But sorry folks lol, cheating isn't against the law. You can talk about it all you want but it is what it is. Maybe I'm biased as a father of 2 girls but to those who think
it's worse than rape? Excuse my language but y'all are F'ng crazy. Respectfully said though~
Ty for the rundown of the dramas inner workings. I will pass. It would just make me rage. Hypocrisy through empowerment is what I saw mentioned a lot too. That was a refreshing take that's going to stick with me for awhile. It made me think. The rest of y'all, enjoy the show and cya later~
I'm not totally sure how the law applies to this but in general that's something everyone knows. The same thing applies to trials by jury. Most law dramas I've seen, including Korean, point this out when writing instants that have this within their works. The last drama I can personally recall this happening offhand was Juvenile Justice and this was the very topic the drama was all about. Check it out if you haven't seen.