He's being indifferent to her because in his POV she doesn't like him and she was coerced into the marriage by…
Oh, I'm sorry, it seems my answer was unclear. I meant YOU are gaslighting when you say that turning off the machine and telling her she can't have coffee isn't forbidding her to have coffee. Is it only forbidding if he said she can't have coffee until the end of time, not just the end of breakfast?
To go back to start, I said the guy's an ass and every response has been a justification of why it's okay for him to be an ass, or there's some indefinable degree of him doing ass-demonstrating things that can somehow be retroactively absolved if he, at some point, stops being an ass. Okay, if that's your take, but the bottom line is we all agree he's an ass.
He's being indifferent to her because in his POV she doesn't like him and she was coerced into the marriage by…
You almost gave me whiplash. He absolutely did forbid her to have coffee. Pretending he didn't because it was only "until I say it's okay" or "you don't get coffee when you want it, only when I say you can have it" is not forbidding it, is straight up gaslighting.
He's being indifferent to her because in his POV she doesn't like him and she was coerced into the marriage by…
ML is not, in any manner, indifferent. He is focused on controlling every aspect FL's life with him. This is not debatable because he actually, straight up, out loud said this.
He shows love by letting her have her way? We can't be watching the same series. He won't even let her have coffee when she wants it; she's contractually forbidden from suing for divorce under any circumstances; he demands she take a job with him even though she said she doesn't want it; he contractually forbids her to tell anyone they are married, but it's ok if he does - rules for thee but not for me; and that's just in the first 4 episodes.
If you want to argue that he's paternalistically making all these rules and decisions for what he perceives to be her own good, I won't argue with you, but he's still an ass because he never once in three years asks, but what do you want, honey?
He doesn't treat her like shit though. They're both estranged because of lack communication and their circumstances.…
"Everything you do is clumsy" and "You're so ugly right now" is crystal clear, direct communication. A contract that strips FL of any form of equity in their marriage is crystal clear, direct communication. Maybe that spells love to you, but it clearly spells a-s-s to me.
I'm willing to believe that ML is too psychology damaged to realize he's an ass, but that doesn't make him not an ass.
Gosh, I get so excited when I see another movie with my favorite character introduction: successful, talented, ambitious woman needs to be brought down a peg or two by talented, ambitious, irreverent, upstart man with magical intuition or some other pixie dust super power.
Yes, of course, that's sarcasm. I couldn't make it past episode 2 of Samdal-Ri, so it seems my punishment was my psyche guiding me to FL&W next. Because it has Park Min Young I really wanted to like it, but the obviously cheating fiance and smugly sexist insubordinate dampened my willingness to slog it out. For those of you still watching, I hope for your sake it gets better, but I'm not willing to invest my time and energy to find out.
one thing I hated about this drama is thtyhe was fitful to their love in time she was sleeping and dating around…
Yeah, women who enjoy their sexuality are a serious threat to some men. Sounds like you need to wait for one of those fantasy trad wife dramas - maybe stick to Joseon era story lines.
ML is an unrelenting ass. I think I'll wait until this drama completes before I decide whether to pick it back up, because "I'm in love with you, that's why I treat you like sh!t" is not my favorite genre.
This girl dgaf, she's gonna take her sweet time as usual...
The reality of the entertainment industry is that women don't make as much money as men in these productions, so what she earns from endorsements and modeling likely far exceeds what she makes acting and is probably what buys her groceries.
Her characters are always so different in mannerisms..like she always manages to play a different personality.I…
Yes! - in different productions and even in the same show. In Lovestruck in the City, Kim Ji Won plays two completely different aspects of a single character and does an amazing job with it. She is so good at conveying emotion through micro-expressions and physically inhabiting her characters.
If there were a special place in Hell, as there should be, for women scriptwriters who write sexist dramas with vacuous, immature, and relentlessly stupid female leads, it would be a very, very crowded section. Jo Bo Ah deserved better.
All actors did amazing job portraying characters 👏 Many are complaining about FL's acting but loved her 😘…
There are people on MDL who show up in comments for the sole purpose of trashing female leads. Apparently, it's a hobby one can indulge from their mother's basements.
I'm on E3 and the ML is such a sociopathic ass I'm hoping big mama Beom Ho Ja gets a chance to deal with him. Does ML ever become less of a selfish, childish prat? Because watching a kidnapped woman being ridiculed, tied up, and psychologically abused really isn't my idea of entertainment.
1. 2nd female lead is equally, if not more, evil than 1st female lead, and in my opinion clinically psychopathic.
2. The weight of the punishment for 1st FL lead far exceeds the severity of her misdeed. 2nd FL doesn't merely target 1st FL for vengeance, but goes after her entire family: she destroys the marriage of the husband of 1st FL, who knows of the infidelity and has made his peace with it, permanently traumatizes the couple's children, and commits felony crimes, for which she is rewarded with the life and career of her dreams.
3. From my PoV, the ending is satisfying only if one considers infidelity more heinous than physically assaulting a child, stalking, psychologically terrorizing a family, kidnapping a child, blackmail, deliberately removing a mother from her children, and framing someone for murder.
4. From a practical point of view, 2nd FL's final act of vengeance and control is implausible, if not impossible, and legally absurd. IMO, 1st FL lead could reasonably have responded with, "Yeah, good luck with that" and lived happily ever after.
Personal note for moralistic screechers: in pure bad drama fashion, my husband cheated on me with the babysitter, whom he later married. Despite his behavior, it never once occurred to me that I would be justified to stalk him, terrorize his new family, physically assault and kidnap his child with her, or frame him for murder. So, no, one does not justify the other.
Dropped she is a hypocrite sex addict and he is a simp
Nothing addicted or hypocritical about her sexuality. WYSIWYG. The character is both particular and strategic in choosing sexual relationships with other consenting adults. You couldn't know that, though, as you didn't watch the series...or, at least, claim you didn't.
To go back to start, I said the guy's an ass and every response has been a justification of why it's okay for him to be an ass, or there's some indefinable degree of him doing ass-demonstrating things that can somehow be retroactively absolved if he, at some point, stops being an ass. Okay, if that's your take, but the bottom line is we all agree he's an ass.
He shows love by letting her have her way? We can't be watching the same series. He won't even let her have coffee when she wants it; she's contractually forbidden from suing for divorce under any circumstances; he demands she take a job with him even though she said she doesn't want it; he contractually forbids her to tell anyone they are married, but it's ok if he does - rules for thee but not for me; and that's just in the first 4 episodes.
If you want to argue that he's paternalistically making all these rules and decisions for what he perceives to be her own good, I won't argue with you, but he's still an ass because he never once in three years asks, but what do you want, honey?
I'm willing to believe that ML is too psychology damaged to realize he's an ass, but that doesn't make him not an ass.
Yes, of course, that's sarcasm. I couldn't make it past episode 2 of Samdal-Ri, so it seems my punishment was my psyche guiding me to FL&W next. Because it has Park Min Young I really wanted to like it, but the obviously cheating fiance and smugly sexist insubordinate dampened my willingness to slog it out. For those of you still watching, I hope for your sake it gets better, but I'm not willing to invest my time and energy to find out.
My reasons for rating it low:
1. 2nd female lead is equally, if not more, evil than 1st female lead, and in my opinion clinically psychopathic.
2. The weight of the punishment for 1st FL lead far exceeds the severity of her misdeed. 2nd FL doesn't merely target 1st FL for vengeance, but goes after her entire family: she destroys the marriage of the husband of 1st FL, who knows of the infidelity and has made his peace with it, permanently traumatizes the couple's children, and commits felony crimes, for which she is rewarded with the life and career of her dreams.
3. From my PoV, the ending is satisfying only if one considers infidelity more heinous than physically assaulting a child, stalking, psychologically terrorizing a family, kidnapping a child, blackmail, deliberately removing a mother from her children, and framing someone for murder.
4. From a practical point of view, 2nd FL's final act of vengeance and control is implausible, if not impossible, and legally absurd. IMO, 1st FL lead could reasonably have responded with, "Yeah, good luck with that" and lived happily ever after.
Personal note for moralistic screechers: in pure bad drama fashion, my husband cheated on me with the babysitter, whom he later married. Despite his behavior, it never once occurred to me that I would be justified to stalk him, terrorize his new family, physically assault and kidnap his child with her, or frame him for murder. So, no, one does not justify the other.
Factoid: only simps call other men simps