* The father don't have powers, since he was surprised as well.* But he is very comedic. “What's the lottery…
Yep!
They'll probably give us more funny moments. A good way to balance the current depressing atmosphere. It's so cool, because the main story isn't affected, but they make the audience laugh.
LOL. Lee Ho Chul and Heo Sung Tae as protagonists. They've been playing a lot of villain roles the past few years, this will take some getting used to. I love the change in their roles, and comedic too.
Currently, he is not actually changing anything in the past.In real life, the most accepted theory of time travel…
My understanding is he was referring to that door, the only one that was coloured.
It is, of course, possible that there is something else as well. He probably found another coloured door but encountered something else. For example, he can open the door but it leads nowhere, or blocked by debris. So, maybe, he needs to do something else to get to that door faster. Like, maybe, he needs to remember another memory that is earlier than the birth of Ina, right before the fire started.
RE: time travel.Also in MDL forums: https://kisskh.at/discussions/although-i-am-not-a-hero/125445-time-travel
Currently, he is not actually changing anything in the past.
In real life, the most accepted theory of time travel in physics is this:
“Everything that should happen already happened.”
It means that, if there are changes in time because of time travel, ALL of it already happened. In other words, time STILL flowed linearly. It means that there is ONLY ONE timeline. Absolutely nothing changed because of time travel, it already happened that way its supposed to happen. There is no grandfather paradox or any paradoxes. It just is.
This is what the current time travel by the ML is so far about. Everything that should happen already happened. (aside: It has nothing to do with predestination.) Him holding the FL's hand at a mall, already happened. Nothing changed there. He didn't save her, he's supposed to be there because it already happened.
Now, this is problematic because it leads to one very crucial limitation of his time travel ability: he needs to do the things that already happened at the right time and at the right moment.
If he fails, then that's when things are actually going to change.
There are only two ways he can actually change the past: 1. Not traveling at the right moment (origin time) and at the right time (target time) when the FL saw him. 2. Being at a time (target time) when he was not originally there.
No. 1 would be very hard to avoid at his current state because he doesn't have any control (yet). When the FL saw him travel, it was his version that has no control over his powers (yet), so those time travels happen the way it already happened for everyone.
In addition, he can only do No. 1 if he already have prior information, like information from the FL.
a. Future ML told the FL his origin time. b. Then FL told the present ML that information. c. Present ML travels back into that target time, changing his origin time.
Then we can say he changed the past. Not only the past, but also his future. “His future” is also important, as was stressed multiple times in E04.
No. 2 is within his reach, but as his father explained, it will depend on how much he wants to save her. He can test this in the Spa/Sauna incident.
It was already established that the ML never saved her from her fall at the Spa. So we know for a fact he never did and he was never there as a time traveler.
However, if he can make himself appear there and save her from her fall, thus, preventing the hospital scene, then we can truly say he actually changed the past.
Both No. 1 and No. 2 fulfills what E04 hinted at: “Her past is his future” and “His future is her past”.
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There's one more thing. Who actually saved the FL during the school fire incident?
E04 hinted at two possible things: 1. The FL told him a lie. 2. Or, the FL unknowingly told him the truth.
Here's the kicker, both No. 1 and No. 2 can be true.
How?
* The FL told him a lie. No one saved her. It happened the way the ML saw it happened, and the way the FL remembers it. * However, when the FL lied about it, that gave the ML a thought, or an idea. Maybe in the near future, he figured out that the door is not about his fireman friend, but about her. (Well, it's obvious for us the audience.) * The ML will probably figure out that if he can save the FL, then his friend won't die. * I am suspecting that the person trapped inside, that the other student told his friend, was the FL. So, his friend's death is connected to the FL. He cannot save his friend directly, he has to save the FL so that other student wouldn't tell his friend there's someone else inside. * So, No. 1 is true, the FL told him a lie. But, No. 2 is also true, because the FL changed his future, which effectively changed her past.
Remember what they both said? ML: Your past is my future. FL: Your future is my past.
The FL's past, the “lie” that he saved her from the fire, is what will change his future. At the same time, once his future changes, the FL's past will also change.
What will change with the FL's past? She more likely won't end up with the Sauna loan shark / adopted mother.
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Finally, there's a problem. If the FL's past changes, they probably wouldn't meet after that.
Also, the ML's past will change as well, and his wife's death wouldn't happen because the ML wouldn't be obsessed with something which led to him abandoning his family (unintentionally because of his uncontrolled travels).
Which brings us to the final question: How can they avoid a grandfather paradox? Because if the FL can change his future which leads to him changing the FL's past which indirectly affects his own past as well, then there's going to be a grandfather paradox, because those changes never happened.
* The father don't have powers, since he was surprised as well.
* But he is very comedic. “What's the lottery numbers? Or, were it stocks?” ROFL. He's as regular as everyone else, Lottery is the best information from the future!
* Everyone's reaction when grandma was telling her dream about the FL were so LMAO moment. They're trying to hide their emotions and worry because they knew how serious grandma's dreams are, and they don't want to scare her.
* Grandma's precog ability seems to be based on what she deeply desires. Since she's too concerned about money, she was dreaming lottery numbers and stock options. It was too late when she dreamed her daughter-in-law. And now, she's too much into FL, she's dreaming about her a lot.
* The sister is also funny.
* The ML's comedic scenes are at the right moment without changing his image as depressed and too serious. Even though he knew he doesn't have reflections, he was still very surprised when he didn't see his own reflection. LOL.
I think you're mixing things up.HS's father is not a bad person because he agreed to terminate Suji. He is because…
> he’s a director whether he’s in his home or office
Well… that's where we differ.
> And I’m not reading alladat the first bits are prove enough what the rest will be
Apologies, and I'm sad you did that and assumed what the rest will be.
However, just so you know, I read every word you said before and after, thrice too. ^_~ Since I did, I stand by what I already said, and I think I can say you missed my point. ^_^
Dancing with a woman at a club doesn't mean he's cheating.
> would you allow your partner to dance with someone else at a club ?
Yes. It's just dancing. However, if it starts to get physical and erotic, I'll step in.
As long as you both know your limits, and are mature adults, you can do things without it turning ugly.
My first love, of 3 years, we've worked together for multiple projects. Since we're comfortable with each other, obviously, we can do things faster and more efficiently, than if we're total strangers. LOL. We even went on coffee meetings with just the two us and finished a project in two days instead of 2 weeks.
Most people consider it cheating. So, then, I ask, was it cheating for two matured adults--who are fully aware of their limits--to chat, meet, and work on projects?
Dancing is no different. And a lot of other stuff.
Society just want us to think negatively, and put some meaning to things when there aren't. It is beneficial if people are fighting. Beneficial to those in power and hungry for more money.
LOL! The moment she mentioned “the eyes is the window to your soul” and the kid replied, “that's exactly why I don't like it”, I immediately knew she can read people.
Why didn't I notice that last week! Her waiting those high grade glasses is the one that is blocking her abilities, not the smartphone!
I understand that kid, as an autistic, I use my glasses to block my ability to read other people. Okay, just kidding. It makes me comfortable looking at other people with glasses on. But it is so uncomfortable without. And the reason behind that is similar to Ina, “your eyes are the window to your soul”. Like, hell no, I don't want people to see into my soul and I don't want to see the soul of others.
It's amazing how the writer thought of connecting glasses and “window to your soul” together. I wonder if the writer knew it is true-to-life, and wasn't just a figment of their imagination.
Anyway, it's going to be challenge for Ina to use her powers, since she do need to wear high grade glasses. Like me, I need to wear my glasses, I'd rather see than hear people's thoughts. :P
I know everybody wants to pretend like Han Jin Tae(hyun sung father) is a bad person but he most definitely isn't.…
I think you're mixing things up.
HS's father is not a bad person because he agreed to terminate Suji. He is because he is not acting like a father to his son, instead he is acting like a director.
You have to separate him being the director, and him being the father. Which, I would say, was an obvious hint in the show with how the three of them (father, mother, and HS), acts while outside of their home, or if there are other people around.
They themselves know how to behave, and how to separate their business and family life.
Thus, his father still acting like a director when it comes to the issue of Suji, when they are at home, is what's making him a “bad” person. He is an adult, he should know better. It has nothing to do with culture.
Do you know why? Because it happens every where, Koreans, Americans, Japanese, Filipinos, Vietnamese, British, African. Parents forgetting that there is a difference between being inside your “home” as a family versus outside in a business environment.
As a father, he should have known that he can show sympathy towards his son, if not for Suji. And he should have known to have an open mind and talk to his son properly.
Which again, the show made it obvious, through HS's mother constantly reminding her husband. But obviously, her husband epicly fails at.
Again, it has nothing to do with culture. And it has nothing to do with “it is Korean culture”. LOL. That social reputation you are calling “Korean culture” is a “Filipino culture” as well, and Korea and the Philippines have no known historical cultural exchange/interaction other than sometime in mid-Joseon period, and it wasn't even anything “cultural exchange”, there were simply Filipino sailors who got wrecked and landed in Jeju, lived in Korea for some years, were called by the Joseon King so they can get help. That was it. The next interaction between the two countries was a century and a few decades later.
So, no, Filipino culture did not acquire Korean culture; nor Korean culture acquired Filipino culture. Which proves that social reputation is _not_ a Korean culture, it is normal and common in many cultures.
Once you understand that, it becomes clearer why HS's father is “bad”. It has nothing to do with culture, Korean or otherwise, he simply is not acting like a father. Especially when his own wife is constantly reminding her.
Forget about the stance of the hospital, and the media. That's normal, and again, has nothing to do with culture, it happens everywhere. If I was part of the board of that hospital, I would vote similarly, remove Suji, with an option to reinstate once it's has been cleared. Business is business. A person is in a position because they are the ones who can make the hardest decisions when needed.
However, outside of your role as a director or board, that is what defines you, as a person, if you are a good or bad human being. Separation of personal life and work.
The fact that he tells his parents that Soo Ji does not feel the same way as him, and then says "Not yet. But…
Exactly. I never did something like that to my ex-girlfriends. It's their property. Whatever were written there, it is up to the person to decide if they want to share it or not.
Also, if you trust your partner, you wouldn't be insecure and entertaining negative thoughts.
They'll probably give us more funny moments. A good way to balance the current depressing atmosphere. It's so cool, because the main story isn't affected, but they make the audience laugh.
I guess they're collecting the comments from International fans about the K-drama kissing scenes. Hahaha. Finally, they're doing it right. ^_^
Make it real, it's just acting. Or, you know, think of it as your only chance to kiss another celebrity hehehhehe.
It is, of course, possible that there is something else as well. He probably found another coloured door but encountered something else. For example, he can open the door but it leads nowhere, or blocked by debris. So, maybe, he needs to do something else to get to that door faster. Like, maybe, he needs to remember another memory that is earlier than the birth of Ina, right before the fire started.
In real life, the most accepted theory of time travel in physics is this:
“Everything that should happen already happened.”
It means that, if there are changes in time because of time travel, ALL of it already happened. In other words, time STILL flowed linearly. It means that there is ONLY ONE timeline. Absolutely nothing changed because of time travel, it already happened that way its supposed to happen. There is no grandfather paradox or any paradoxes. It just is.
This is what the current time travel by the ML is so far about. Everything that should happen already happened. (aside: It has nothing to do with predestination.) Him holding the FL's hand at a mall, already happened. Nothing changed there. He didn't save her, he's supposed to be there because it already happened.
Now, this is problematic because it leads to one very crucial limitation of his time travel ability: he needs to do the things that already happened at the right time and at the right moment.
If he fails, then that's when things are actually going to change.
There are only two ways he can actually change the past:
1. Not traveling at the right moment (origin time) and at the right time (target time) when the FL saw him.
2. Being at a time (target time) when he was not originally there.
No. 1 would be very hard to avoid at his current state because he doesn't have any control (yet). When the FL saw him travel, it was his version that has no control over his powers (yet), so those time travels happen the way it already happened for everyone.
In addition, he can only do No. 1 if he already have prior information, like information from the FL.
a. Future ML told the FL his origin time.
b. Then FL told the present ML that information.
c. Present ML travels back into that target time, changing his origin time.
Then we can say he changed the past. Not only the past, but also his future. “His future” is also important, as was stressed multiple times in E04.
No. 2 is within his reach, but as his father explained, it will depend on how much he wants to save her. He can test this in the Spa/Sauna incident.
It was already established that the ML never saved her from her fall at the Spa. So we know for a fact he never did and he was never there as a time traveler.
However, if he can make himself appear there and save her from her fall, thus, preventing the hospital scene, then we can truly say he actually changed the past.
Both No. 1 and No. 2 fulfills what E04 hinted at: “Her past is his future” and “His future is her past”.
---
There's one more thing. Who actually saved the FL during the school fire incident?
E04 hinted at two possible things:
1. The FL told him a lie.
2. Or, the FL unknowingly told him the truth.
Here's the kicker, both No. 1 and No. 2 can be true.
How?
* The FL told him a lie. No one saved her. It happened the way the ML saw it happened, and the way the FL remembers it.
* However, when the FL lied about it, that gave the ML a thought, or an idea. Maybe in the near future, he figured out that the door is not about his fireman friend, but about her. (Well, it's obvious for us the audience.)
* The ML will probably figure out that if he can save the FL, then his friend won't die.
* I am suspecting that the person trapped inside, that the other student told his friend, was the FL. So, his friend's death is connected to the FL. He cannot save his friend directly, he has to save the FL so that other student wouldn't tell his friend there's someone else inside.
* So, No. 1 is true, the FL told him a lie. But, No. 2 is also true, because the FL changed his future, which effectively changed her past.
Remember what they both said?
ML: Your past is my future.
FL: Your future is my past.
The FL's past, the “lie” that he saved her from the fire, is what will change his future. At the same time, once his future changes, the FL's past will also change.
What will change with the FL's past? She more likely won't end up with the Sauna loan shark / adopted mother.
---
Finally, there's a problem. If the FL's past changes, they probably wouldn't meet after that.
Also, the ML's past will change as well, and his wife's death wouldn't happen because the ML wouldn't be obsessed with something which led to him abandoning his family (unintentionally because of his uncontrolled travels).
Which brings us to the final question: How can they avoid a grandfather paradox? Because if the FL can change his future which leads to him changing the FL's past which indirectly affects his own past as well, then there's going to be a grandfather paradox, because those changes never happened.
Also in MDL forums: https://kisskh.at/discussions/although-i-am-not-a-hero/125445-time-travel
* But he is very comedic. “What's the lottery numbers? Or, were it stocks?” ROFL. He's as regular as everyone else, Lottery is the best information from the future!
* Everyone's reaction when grandma was telling her dream about the FL were so LMAO moment. They're trying to hide their emotions and worry because they knew how serious grandma's dreams are, and they don't want to scare her.
* Grandma's precog ability seems to be based on what she deeply desires. Since she's too concerned about money, she was dreaming lottery numbers and stock options. It was too late when she dreamed her daughter-in-law. And now, she's too much into FL, she's dreaming about her a lot.
* The sister is also funny.
* The ML's comedic scenes are at the right moment without changing his image as depressed and too serious. Even though he knew he doesn't have reflections, he was still very surprised when he didn't see his own reflection. LOL.
https://kisskh.at/discussions/running-man-philippines-season-2/125443-official-episode-chapter-streaming-for-running-man-philippines-s02
* Per episode: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_UmNDDvymmCm3xfezD46MEZpoU9MfRcQ
* Per chapter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_UmNDDvymmD1Qfol-v4yPvrsa2IJWGSp
Unofficial playlist:
* Combined all seasons per chapter: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLom9SdXHUp4hwPmZJgR0HMzvya5t3I8tn
Schedule confirmed:
* SAT-SUN at 19:15
* Number of episodes no information yet, but based on S01, probably same or less than 32.
Waiting for edit/update submission to be approved so we can mark this as “Completed”.
Well… that's where we differ.
> And I’m not reading alladat the first bits are prove enough what the rest will be
Apologies, and I'm sad you did that and assumed what the rest will be.
However, just so you know, I read every word you said before and after, thrice too. ^_~ Since I did, I stand by what I already said, and I think I can say you missed my point. ^_^
> The Writer ought to do a better job
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> I have never liked your comments and have not bothered to read them.
Okay. I did not ask you to like my comments or to read my comments.
> But I have REFRAINED from telling you how to write your comments.
Well, it's your choice. By not saying anything, the person you hate will never know.
In the same way that, I told you how you shouldn't say this: The Writer ought to do a better job. Because I want you to be informed.
It is not my problem if you don't want to engage people.
> Think...how would you feel if a commenter told you the same thing.
Back at you. If you were the writer, how would you feel if a commenter told you “do a better job”?
> Please do not engage me ever again.
Oh, please. You do that, not me. Block me or whatever.
Yes. It's just dancing. However, if it starts to get physical and erotic, I'll step in.
As long as you both know your limits, and are mature adults, you can do things without it turning ugly.
My first love, of 3 years, we've worked together for multiple projects. Since we're comfortable with each other, obviously, we can do things faster and more efficiently, than if we're total strangers. LOL. We even went on coffee meetings with just the two us and finished a project in two days instead of 2 weeks.
Most people consider it cheating. So, then, I ask, was it cheating for two matured adults--who are fully aware of their limits--to chat, meet, and work on projects?
Dancing is no different. And a lot of other stuff.
Society just want us to think negatively, and put some meaning to things when there aren't. It is beneficial if people are fighting. Beneficial to those in power and hungry for more money.
Why didn't I notice that last week! Her waiting those high grade glasses is the one that is blocking her abilities, not the smartphone!
I understand that kid, as an autistic, I use my glasses to block my ability to read other people. Okay, just kidding. It makes me comfortable looking at other people with glasses on. But it is so uncomfortable without. And the reason behind that is similar to Ina, “your eyes are the window to your soul”. Like, hell no, I don't want people to see into my soul and I don't want to see the soul of others.
It's amazing how the writer thought of connecting glasses and “window to your soul” together. I wonder if the writer knew it is true-to-life, and wasn't just a figment of their imagination.
Anyway, it's going to be challenge for Ina to use her powers, since she do need to wear high grade glasses. Like me, I need to wear my glasses, I'd rather see than hear people's thoughts. :P
HS's father is not a bad person because he agreed to terminate Suji. He is because he is not acting like a father to his son, instead he is acting like a director.
You have to separate him being the director, and him being the father. Which, I would say, was an obvious hint in the show with how the three of them (father, mother, and HS), acts while outside of their home, or if there are other people around.
They themselves know how to behave, and how to separate their business and family life.
Thus, his father still acting like a director when it comes to the issue of Suji, when they are at home, is what's making him a “bad” person. He is an adult, he should know better. It has nothing to do with culture.
Do you know why? Because it happens every where, Koreans, Americans, Japanese, Filipinos, Vietnamese, British, African. Parents forgetting that there is a difference between being inside your “home” as a family versus outside in a business environment.
As a father, he should have known that he can show sympathy towards his son, if not for Suji. And he should have known to have an open mind and talk to his son properly.
Which again, the show made it obvious, through HS's mother constantly reminding her husband. But obviously, her husband epicly fails at.
Again, it has nothing to do with culture. And it has nothing to do with “it is Korean culture”. LOL. That social reputation you are calling “Korean culture” is a “Filipino culture” as well, and Korea and the Philippines have no known historical cultural exchange/interaction other than sometime in mid-Joseon period, and it wasn't even anything “cultural exchange”, there were simply Filipino sailors who got wrecked and landed in Jeju, lived in Korea for some years, were called by the Joseon King so they can get help. That was it. The next interaction between the two countries was a century and a few decades later.
So, no, Filipino culture did not acquire Korean culture; nor Korean culture acquired Filipino culture. Which proves that social reputation is _not_ a Korean culture, it is normal and common in many cultures.
Once you understand that, it becomes clearer why HS's father is “bad”. It has nothing to do with culture, Korean or otherwise, he simply is not acting like a father. Especially when his own wife is constantly reminding her.
Forget about the stance of the hospital, and the media. That's normal, and again, has nothing to do with culture, it happens everywhere. If I was part of the board of that hospital, I would vote similarly, remove Suji, with an option to reinstate once it's has been cleared. Business is business. A person is in a position because they are the ones who can make the hardest decisions when needed.
However, outside of your role as a director or board, that is what defines you, as a person, if you are a good or bad human being. Separation of personal life and work.
Also, if you trust your partner, you wouldn't be insecure and entertaining negative thoughts.