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Yep, I think so too. He showed how he doesn't want them to be a broken family. He grew up without his real family, and they are lucky they have each other, yet can't see eye-to-eye.

It's ironic how a total stranger is the one mending them. He's more a family than a "fake" to be hated.

Exactly! He may be putting a strong, revenge facade, but he will melt once he sees his grandmother.

He is right to consider them as strangers, because they are. Even his father, when they first met, was acting strong and aloof, but eventually melted. No real family wouldn't show their soft spot for their own flesh and blood, especially if they're your ancestors/parents.

Yet, his cousins… totally strangers. A sad and touching story.

1. It gave us a glimpse into the character of the real grandson.

Who is he? He is just a little kid upset with his grandmother. But deep inside, he is hurting. That hurt deepened after he saw the life his grandmother have, while his father died, and his wife is battling for her life.

Forget about the life he had to endure, it is nothing compared to how he saw his father lived and died, and how his wife is fighting for her life. Then seeing the luxurious life his grandmother has.

He is just a little kid inside, who have been hiding his soft spot, his weaknesses, and acting strong, to survive the world. It is the only thing he knows. He always has his guard up. And his misunderstanding of his grandmother added on top of it, he is simply acting strong while trying to take revenge… but deep inside, he is hurting.

That's him. And fake grandson understood it so well. That brings us to #2.

2. The fake grandson is more than just an actor.

He is a soft person who understand other people first before he judges them. He sees the positive in every human being. He knows each person have a story to tell which shaped them who they are today.

Using his own experience, he knew he can connect with the real grandson. To connect with him heart-to-heart. The real grandson can keep his guard up, but he knew how to open the backdoor and get through him.

In contrast to that, the fake wife confronted the real grandson, but she made a wrong judgement call. She approached the real grandson head on, tried to make him feel guilty and herself the victim. Which only backfired because she did not bother to know what is his story.

The real grandson warned her to watch her words, yet she did not listen, instead she attacked stronger. He was holding himself back because he is not the type of person who wants to have a pis*ing contest.

But because she wouldn't listen, he revealed his story to her. The worst part of his story, seeing his father die, and his wife struggling to survive, which forced him to do things she tried to make him feel guilty of.

Fake grandson understood because he was abandoned by his mother. Fake wife did not, because she grew up in a well-off family and sheltered environment.

This contrast allowed the fake grandson's character to bloom. He was not doing it because it still is part of their act, he was reaching out to the real grandson because he understands where he is coming from.

Like the real grandson said so himself, everyone is telling him what they want him to do, or not do. No one bothered to ask him what he really wants.

And that is… for people to see him for who he is, a human being who was forced to do things he doesn't want, simply to survive.

It is why he kept saying they are strangers. Because strangers rarely see other people for who they really are. A real family will see a person. A real family will know if you are hurting. If you need a shoulder to cry on. They will ask if you need help.

The fake grandson turned out to be the real grandson's family. He saw him. He saw beyond the facade the real grandson was putting up (his guard), and became the person he needed.

Just look, it's episode 15, and still no one have any idea his wife is close to dying! No one cared to ask him! He's a human being crying out for help, but everyone's a stranger, they are only family in name.

The fake grandson and the real grandson. Episode 15 was that. A real familial bond between two unrelated people.

Episode 15 was a very good one.

Then maybe you can present a better explanation that doesn't contradict with what was explained in the series without using an excuse such as "lazy writing" or "writer error".

Also, please explain how come the history of events from HW's time period was exactly the same as in DJ's time period. There is a Miracle Investment. DJ died. DJ saw HW when he died. DJ's driver also saw HW and even mistook him as DJ in the senate hearing.

How come the DJ in HW's time period was known to have done all those things, if HW did not time travel nor possessed DJ's body. And well, he can not possibly reincarnate if he never died in the first place.

^_^

Oh, another hint they dropped. When HW woke up, he wondered if it was a dream.

He was right to think about that because he spent 17 years as DJ but was only in coma in the hospital for 1 week.

aside: Some say he was not in a coma but was only asleep.

If he did not die, then where did those 17 years DJ's life come from?

The only possible solution to this question is one of two things:
1. he started to remember his past life, though only bits and pieces. His present self, confused, started to fill the gaps and acted on his own. In reality, he wasn't changing anything in the past.

Yes, as HW wondered, it was probably a dream.

Or,

2. he started to access someone else's life.

If we go by #2, that would mean the real DJ had access to future knowledge. How can that be?

The more likely answer that doesn't contradict with what was explained in the series, is #1. He did not relive his past life, he only remembered memories. But since his present self can not explain it, it allowed him to "play around" with it like it was a dream.

Later, HW explained he did not time travel nor possessed DJ.

One last thing.

If HW was indeed reborn as DJ, even though he did not die, and HW explained he did not time travel nor possessed a body, how come the past of HW is exactly the same as DJ's past?

Yes.

The theory of reincarnation doesn't put any limit as to the time period one can be reborn. A person who was born in 2000 and died in 2022 can be reborn in the 1100, 3300, or in 2000 too.

In fact, there are Korean dramas which used that lack of restriction on reincarnation as part of their “endings”.

So, yes, a soul reincarnated in a time period overlapping their previous life is possible as far as the theory of reincarnation is concerned. They are not one soul in two bodies, they are two souls with one body each.

It is even possible for a person who died to be reincarnated as twins. One soul split in two. The K-drama 'Bulgasal' used that as a plot device.

The thing with reincarnation is, people are trying to fit their observations of people to fit their belief in reincarnation. If you don't believe in it, it is as good as fiction trope, and you can go wild with it. If so, then, DJ's reincarnation overlapping his previous self is possible.

^_^

If you read it literally, then yes.

However, if we go by that, then:

1. He explained he did not time travel nor possessed someone else's body.
2. He never died, so how can he be reborn?

It appears that way because we're "reviewing" his past life from what information he was able to "remember".

Remembering your past life, at least as far as reincarnation theory goes, is not 100% exact. Your present memory will fill in the blanks.

This is why he wondered if it was a dream.

But, it can not be a dream because it is history. And as he himself said, it wasn't possession nor time travel either.

The only way is reincarnation. But it wasn't HW who was reincarnated, he was in a coma for 1 week. It was DJ who was reincarnated.

The actual events, like what you mentioned, the success of Miracle Investment, were simply filled in by HW's mind trying to make sense of what he was going through. Because after all, it doesn't make any sense for him. And this is what our minds do naturally when something is far too much for us to comprehend; or if we can not remember things exactly, we fill in the blanks.

But in the actual history, it is safe to assume that DJ was actually brilliant (and probably lucky). Knowledge of the future is not required, he's just that good with predicting the market and what's going to happen.

^_^

I can't decide if it should be in the "review" section or the forums.

I think I should just post in both places, at least to ensure it's visible and easily found.

It was about Jin Do Joon being reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo and becoming rich!

1. Yoon Hyun Woo did not die, he was in a coma for 1 week. He can not be reborn at all.

2. When Jin Do Joon died in the 2nd car crash, Jin Do Joon was reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo. Who later became rich.

3. The "Timeline 2" did not exist. As Yoon Hyun Woo said so himself that it was not time travel, nor possession. It was a repentance for both Jin Do Joon and Yoon Hyun Woo, because it's both him. His life as Yoon Hyun Woo is his second chance. The coma gave him a chance to recall his life as Jin Do Joon.

Everything else happened, other than the small changes, exactly the way it did.

"Reborn Rich" also meant being a new person rich with values.

"Reborn Rich" also meant being reborn as a new person after his brush with death, and coming out of the coma (was "reborn").

Re: Repentance
1. As Yoon Hyun Woo, this is his repentance because he chose money over reporting the murder.

2. As Jin Do Joon, it is his repentance because he did do things he shouldn't, he actually became his grandfather in the end.

== When Jin Do Joon was reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo, it was his chance to repent as Jin Do Joon (previous life) and as Yoon Hyun Woo (present life).

In the end, Yoon Hyun Woo became part of Miracle, the company he founded in his previous life as Jin Do Joon.

That was one heck of a story twist. Totally unexpected.

OH-EM-GEE. The title "Reborn Rich" was not about Yoon Hyun Woo being re-born as Jin Do Joon.

More inside.

I'm starting to doubt that.

As far as the entire Part 1, and ep1 and ep2 of Part 2, are concerned, it looks like the only way she can survive is if the new identity, NakYeon, asserts itself.

Remember what Master Lee said? Since he removed Bu Yeon's soul, the body's divine powers is simply that, raw. Nothing's going to control it, nor use its abilities properly.

In Part 1, Bu Yeon's soul was there controlling and using the different abilities of the divine power. For one, Bu Yeon kept the balance between the body's divine power, and the fact that Nak Su's soul is a soul shifter (she will petrify no matter what).

In Part 2, the petrified body was kept alive because Bu Yeon was still there in the body.

However, the only way to reverse the petrification is to remove Bu Yeon's soul, because Bu Yeon's soul is keeping the divine power "locked up" or "under her control".

When Bu Yeon's soul was removed by Master Lee, the body's raw divine power fought the petrification.

The problem is, it will also reject Nak Su's soul. She's a parasite soul. It is not her body.

So, Master Lee tied the two together. The divine power and Nak Su's energy (not the soul shifter energy).

The side-effect is she no longer have any memories, and both her divine power and Nak Su's power were subdued. Not locked-up per se, just in constanct balance.

Divine is preventing petrification; Nak Su's energy feeding the body with energy it needs to fight the petrification. (Without Bu Yeon's soul, there's body doesn't have enough energy to use.)

This enabled the birth of a new identity: NakYeon.

Also, Jin Mu said in Part 2, this new identity has a different energy/aura. She has the face of Nak Su, but her energy is not Nak Su's. She has divine powers, but her energy is not Bu Yeon's.

In other words, for her to survive, the new identity, NakYeon, must assert itself and put the body's divine power, and Nak Su's tremendous energy, under her control.

If the new identity-NakYeon-fails to assert herself, the body will reject Nak Su's soul. Without the energy of Nak Su's soul, the body wouldn't have enough energy to fight the petrification. Eventually, the petrification will restart and she will die permanently.

NakYeon must assert her identity. Make the body her own. And Make Nak Su's memories her own. If she rejects Nak Su's memories, she will not be able to control Nak Su's energies. She needs Nak Su's energy so the body can continually fight the petrification. She needs to accept that the body was Bu Yeon's soul, so she can control the divine energy and stop it from rejecting Nak Su's soul.

I hope I'm making sense. LOL.

Part 1:

* Bu Yeon is blind by birth because her divine/priestess power is about seeing energies. She has to be blind to see the energy around her.
* Nak Su, Part 1 Episode 1, was caught in a desperate situation, she used the soul the ejector to cast the alchemy of soul spell
* However, before that, she bumped into the blind Bu Yeon. Bu Yeon saw her of course (her tremendous energy).
* Since Bu Yeon has a natural affinity to the Ice Stone (as well as her Divine Power), when Nak Su used the soul ejector, Bu Yeon easily overriden the spell.

Instead of Nak Su's soul going into her victim's body, Bu Yeon absorbed Nak Su's soul.

* In the entire Part 1, Bu Yeon used Nak Su so the body can see and move naturally.
* Bu Yeon used Nak Su's soul so they can retrieve the Ice Stone Jin Mu and the queen stole.
* At the same time, she trained and shaped Nak Su, because Bu Yeon knew there's no turning back. Eventually, only one of them can live in the body.
* Bu Yeon also knew she is on borrowed time. Somehow, she probably figured out she already died, and the Ice Stone was used to bring her soul back into the body inside her mother's womb (which explains her affinity to the Ice Stone).
* Based on the last two episodes of Part 1, Bu Yeon knew she's the one who should leave the body and give it to Nak Su.

Eventually, that's what happened. Bu Yeon sort of sealed herself and let Nak Su take over. But unfortunately, Jin Mu, triggered Nak Su's being a soul shifter. Since Bu Yeon sort of sealed herself, and technically was also weakened (because of her mother), her diving powers weakened. It was Bu Yeon who was preventing Nak Ssu from petrifying. Without her, Nak Su petrified, and jumped to the Lake.

End of Part 1.

Beginning of Part 2.

Jin Mama retrieved the petrified body of Mu Deok.

Master Lee was shocked that the petrified body is alive.

Master Lee explained that the Divine power of Bu Yeon's soul and the tremendous power of Nak Su's soul, are both acting to keep the petrified body alive.

Unfortunately, Master Lee realised there is only one way to save the body.

== Remove Bu Yeon's soul

By removing Bu Yeon's soul, the Divine powers that is naturally in the body will be released. (Bu Yeon's soul sort of sealed it, and also weakened too.)

By letting the Divine powers resurface, the petrification will reverse. The Divine power is more powerful than a soul shifter side-effect (petrification, absorbing energies, etc.)

But since the body will reject the parasite soul (i.e. the soul that doesn't belong to it), Master Lee tied the divine power to Nak Su's tremendous energy (not the soul shifter side-effect energy).

The side-effect of tying the divine power and Nak Su's energy is she becomes a new person. No memories, and no powers at all.

Even her aura is different, It is neither Bu Yeon nor Nak Su.

As far as Master Lee is concerned, if she startss to regain her memories as Nak Su, or the body's natural divine powers re-emerges, the body will start to reject the parasite soul.

If that happens, the soul-shifter side-effect will once again restart, she will petrify once again.

Unfortunately. Without Bu Yeon's souls, once she petrifies again, she will permanently die. Basically, Master Lee hinted that the natural divine power of the body is incomplete without Bu Yeon's soul. Bu Yeon's soul is like the master key to it, as well as, the master controller on how to unleash the abilities of the divine power (for example, in Part 1, Bu Yeon kept a balance of between herself and Nak Su's powers).

So, now, in Part 2, it is totally unknown what will happen if NakYeon recovers her memories and powers. Will the body reject Nak Su's soul and restart the petrification process? Or, will the body and Nak Su's soul accept each other because of the new identity that is NakYeon that was built?

I'm thinking the latter will happen. The new identity and aura/energy that is NakYeon, will assert itself over the desire of the body to reject Nak Su's soul. At the same time, the NakYeon identity will assert itself over Nak Su's powers and past.

Basically, the new identity and aura that is NakYeon, will fight for her new existence and keep control of the body's divine powers (like Bu Yeon's soul did in Part 1); and keep Nak Su's power intact but without her past sins.

The new NakYeon identity will probably achieve something similar to Part 1, a balance between Bu Yeon and Nak Su's souls. But this time, it's the new identity that will keep the opposing powers intact.

Something liek that.

LOL. Last episode delayed? O_O Is Xmas a holyday in Korea now?

When he survived his original death date as the 4-2, it changed everything.

I'm guessing, his previous self was not hired to work for the Soonyang clan. Instead, he ended up as a hired killer, or at least, the person hired to set things up (and someone does the killing).

His previous self also grew up differently. I mean, he didn't even realize his look-alike was the one who kept doing things, so his father can get money. His look-alike saved Soonyang Motors; and then later ensured they'll be given another chance with their debt and loans.

Something changed with his previous self that he ended up being the guy who set things up for Mr. 4-2 to die.

I wonder if in Episode 16, they will finally focus on his previous self and show us where the change occurred?

My suspicion is, when Mr. 4-2 bought his mother's eatery business. Then her mother committed suicide. Mr. Previous self probably assumed that was the reason his mother killed herself. So, he harboured bad feelings for Mr. 4-2.

In a time travel plot, one trope is showing how a small change can ripple into something very big.

If this is the case, then, everything else up to the first car crash happened exactly as it did previously.

From the car crash onwards, when 4-2 survived, those events are new.

However, none of it matters at all.

Because the small change was where the timeline actually diverged. That small change is his mother's cause of death. Instead of a heart attack, it was suicide.

His previous self just didn't do anything about it yet, he was still a student. When 4-2 survived the first crash, that was also probably things started to change with Mr. Previous Self.

A small change which rippled out and became something very big.

It might have been the fate of his mother to die. But the cause of her death affected Mr. Previous Self differently.

Maybe when 4-2 died at the car crash, it was also the time when Mr. Previous Self started working for Soonyang. But because 4-2 survived this time, things changed dramatically, and worse, he connected 4-2 with her mother's suicide.

(It's easier to explain it with diagrams, lols. But I'm bad with it. :P )

Episode 15: This is why you shouldn't change the past.

True, there are many variables involved.

However, as the series, and in particular episode 16, said, it is the cycle of life. Sooner or later, we will all die.

As her father said, it is the duty of the children to see their parents leave the world, and for them to be happy.

So, even if her father doesn't day on that exact date, for that exact incident, he can still die because he is ready to go out of his way to help strangers.

> If you were a single mother with a kid and no one to depend on, would you really go out of your way and put your life in danger to save someone elses life?

Yeah. I've seen people who did that. I seriously doubt you haven't seen people do that in your own country. You don't have policemen? You don't have firefighters? Rescue teams? Disaster teams who risk their lives for others, even if they have a family that relies on them? Or, some other ordinary guy who went into action to save another?

> such idealistic thoughts are hard to digest

It isn't idealistic, it's reality. ^_^ If it is idealistic for you, then it means you do not understand why, for example, firefighters would risk their lives for others? Or, why some random person did?

Again, I seriously doubt there were no news of such heroic acts in your own country.

> what if she didnt take the job and studied and stayed at home itself. Maybe the dad wouldnt have taken that job because she would have been there at home and could have prevented him from taking that job.

As her dad explained, he did not take the job for her studies. He took the job for the day she gets married, when the time comes when she gets her own house.

So, even if she did study and stayed home, her dad would still secretly take that job. And as far as the story goes, that day would still come.

> What if after studying super hard she got a high paying job which would have made the dad not worry too much about her welfare and money.

But you've forgotten that her dad's death date happened during her preparation years. So, even if she later gets a high paying job, as far as the story goes, her father would be long gone by the time she passes her exams. She already failed once, or twice. Her third opportunity is yet to arrived by the time her father died.

> There are way too many paths this could have taken.

Yes, there are. But, as episode 16 summarised the entire series, we will all die one day. Her father will still die no matter what, for whatever reason. If his father did not die that day, he could've died after being stabbed by some random criminal. Or, he could've died after slipping, and he hit his head against the pavement.

That's the whole point of the series, death is a part of the cycle of life. It is unavoidable. It is just a matter of when.

You can forget about “people going out of their way to help strangers”. His father can be someone who doesn't care if the pregnant lady dies that day. Or, his father probably was not on duty that day, or, the pregnant lady did not come at that moment. His father will still die eventually, destiny/fate or not.

^_^

There's a very good message that can only be absorbed if you watch it. ^_^

You don't have to watch it immediately, just consider watching it sometime later. Reading reviews will never capture the message of episode 16, and the entire series.

The song I want played if ever I die, I don't think I will, but if ever.

Goodbye My Friend (안녕 My Friend / Annyong My Friend) by JAMIE (제이미), OST Part 4 of the May I Help You (일당백집사)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTcncTxSDE