Junho sister is not the reason for breakup. It's completely on Young woo and her lack of complete trust on junho.After…
> Junho sister is not the reason for breakup. It's completely on Young woo and her lack of complete trust on junho.
As an autistic, that freaking hurts. "Lack of complete trust"? And blame it on the autistic person?
Sorry but many of us autistics enter into a relationship with complete trust. Even if only as "friends", we seldom consider you as a "friend" unless we have complete trust. We are generally not very trusting of anyone, thus if we start to consider you as a "friend" it means we trust you. More so in a romantic relationship where it also means we are comfortable dropping our masks in front of you.
Joon Ho's sister's words is not the _only_ reason but it was the primary reason for this particular break up. If you did not catch it, Young Woo even said while Joon Ho was blabbing his mouth, paraphrasing "oh, that's a good point, I did not consider that". Why? Because she already have a list of reasons, no doubt ranked in order.
She loves Joon Ho. She completely trusts Joon Ho.
> After all these years, I'm sure she completely aware about how people think about her. (strangers vs people close to her). > > Junho sister is pretty much a stranger to her. If she still let sister words get into her head. It's youngwoo fault.
It is not about Joon Ho's sister being a stranger to her. You completely missed the point. She broke up with him because she loves him and does not want (1) him to choose between his family and her; and (2) be the cause of the rift between his family.
Also, as an autistic and as a woman, she gave him a way out if he decides his family outweighs them being together. She also gave him an opportunity to look at things more objectively and to analyze for himself what he is actually getting himself into. Not only that, he can analyze his feelings: does he really love Young Woo or is he only mistaking his fascination as love? And mind you, even non-autistics fall into that trap: they mistake their fascination, or someone's uniqueness or kindness, as love.
We autistics are not blind to the concerns and issues non-autistics are saying. Young Woo is no different. You do not need to be a genius like Young Woo to understand that Joon Ho's sister's concerns are valid especially if you are living it. However, it does not mean that his sister's prejudice is correct.
Young Woo did not "let [sic] sister [sic] words get into her head". She analyzed it. She looked into herself. She deeply considered their relationship. Again, you do not need to be a genius like Young Woo to understand it.
> If she need to be in relationship with someone, she needs to put equal efforts to make it work. Blaming everything on junho for not being hyper aware when it comes too young woo is not fair.
When did Young Woo blame Joon Ho? This is the problem with you people who think you are normal, you read between the lines too much and majority of the time you miss the mark.
And are you sure that Young Woo did not "put equal efforts to make it work"? Joon Ho said he did things he does not enjoy for her, and Young Woo replied back that she did things which were very challenging for her because she knows he loves those things. That's not putting "equal efforts to make it work"?
In the first place, you never ever should start counting your sacrifices when in a romantic relationship. Once you do, it will eat you both alive. This was a clear sign that Joon Ho is starting to break, and him telling that to her is a clear sign that there were already cracks in their relationship. It was not because Young Woo did not "put equal efforts to make it work", she did. They both did. At some point things started to break down. And for crying-out-loud even in non-autistic relationships it's the same issue. So if your response is to find someone to blame, then why are you blaming it only on Young Woo?
Almost every relationship that breaks was because of both parties; and the most common reasons are "counting sacrifices" and "blaming each other". You both accepted each other's flaws and shortcomings. You both accepted each other for who they are.
Also, "equal"? Are you serious? When is "equal" equal? Do both parties have to make a list of things they did for each other to make sure things are "equal"? Or, are you going to say you did not mean it literally? Well then, if not literal, then what made you so sure Young Woo did not "put equal efforts to make it work" if what you meant by "equal" is figurative only?
> You can't use autism as an excuse everytime.
She did that? When?
It is ironic. This show is exposing the discrimination, prejudice, and stigma about autism and autistics, and I can tell right here, right now that it is working 100%.
This user made a great post about what happened in the most recent episodehttps://all-about-the-tea-parties.tumblr.com/post/692391911046168576/i-havent-gotten-that-far-but-ive-seen-posts-and
That was a very deep analysis. Highly recommended.
> She’s not a fairy tale character.
EXACTLY.
People who are downrating and everything just because it didn't go the way they want it to be should just watch a fairy tale or produce their own shows.
> Junho makes assumptions about YW all the time. In many ways, his approach to being w/ her is to dote on her, please her, as if she’s a child. And like EVERY allistic person I’ve ever met, as he gets more comfortable w/ her and their relationship he drops the routine that established it (direct communication) and instead falls into his natural way being (intuitive social understanding). He begins to assume things. He assumes, after promising to wait to know each other, that they’ve peaked and are official.
HELL YEAH!
> Young-woo read into a situation, and chose to read the writing on the wall. It’s the wrong writing, the wrong wall. She doesn’t know that though, all the walls look the same to her. She chose to bow out. She both thought this is what people wanted, and felt too insecure to challenge it.
The writer of EAW, Moon Ji-won, said this about why she thinks the JH×YW loveline is essential:"For Young-woo,…
> Young-woo will consider what it means for an autistic person to be with someone, and Jun-ho will consider what it means to love a woman with a disability.
Exactly what I've been explaining. It's real life people. This is not a fairy tale.
I don't really care for Mi Rae's grandmother because of her bias towards adopted people calling them bad seed.…
Also, one other thing you missed: cultural differences.
Not because something is not in agreement with you that you can judge how they act based on your own cultural and personal (and even religious) standards. ^_^
I'm not saying I don't make that mistake … but this is a good opportunity to look into ourselves and put ourselves in other people's shoes.
Like I explained, I saw my grandparents in the way Mi Rae's grandmother acts wise when needed but annoying in ways "children" always find adults/parents are.
Does that mean then my grandparents were "bad" or "evil" the way you see Mi Rae's grandmother is? Remember, I've said I saw my grandparents in her grandmother. ;P
For people asking why it stopped at episode 16, or where are episodes 17 and 18, you missed it. There is a requirement in watching it … you need to be a soul shifter. :p
I am very sure African countries do not turn a blind eye to issues like this because marriage itself is between…
> I am very sure African countries do not turn a blind eye to issues like this because marriage itself is between the in-laws and not the couples. For instance, in my country, the formal engagement ceremony can be celebrated without the couples present. So, it is really not about them even though it is their party.
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to point out.
1. I said, "in many other countries too". I did not say "all".
2. I said, "in other countries people turns a blind eye as long as they're not blood-related".
And yet you disagreed about turning a blind eye. So are you saying that in African countries, and your own country, they do not turn a blind eye on "legal relationships", that even if they are not blood related it is such an issue?
As expected, adopted Lee is considering revoking his adoption family register as a solution to getting their children married.
Unless there is a loophole (which there seems to be in the preview), there is no way to resolve the issue other than for the real daughter or the adopted son to make a sacrifice on their family registry.
I mentioned it before, this is not only a legal and social issue in Korea but in many other countries too. It just so happen Korea is strict about it, and in other countries people turns a blind eye as long as they're not blood-related.
You know, Mi Rae's grandmother is wise when she needs to be. I guess you call it being an adult and enjoying life. You can play the annoying adult and when needed, a wise adult your family needs.
My grandparents were like that too and see Mi Rae's grandmother acting similarly makes me appreciate my grandparents more even though they moved on from this life.
BM is the head of it all, the organization doesnt hv a name. they referred to it like that bec obviously theres…
Yep. As per episode 5, Ji Hoon referred to "Big Mouse" and the organization separately. Even his 3 Goons referred to "Big Mouse" and the organization separately.
As an autistic, that freaking hurts. "Lack of complete trust"? And blame it on the autistic person?
Sorry but many of us autistics enter into a relationship with complete trust. Even if only as "friends", we seldom consider you as a "friend" unless we have complete trust. We are generally not very trusting of anyone, thus if we start to consider you as a "friend" it means we trust you. More so in a romantic relationship where it also means we are comfortable dropping our masks in front of you.
Joon Ho's sister's words is not the _only_ reason but it was the primary reason for this particular break up. If you did not catch it, Young Woo even said while Joon Ho was blabbing his mouth, paraphrasing "oh, that's a good point, I did not consider that". Why? Because she already have a list of reasons, no doubt ranked in order.
She loves Joon Ho. She completely trusts Joon Ho.
> After all these years, I'm sure she completely aware about how people think about her. (strangers vs people close to her).
>
> Junho sister is pretty much a stranger to her. If she still let sister words get into her head. It's youngwoo fault.
It is not about Joon Ho's sister being a stranger to her. You completely missed the point. She broke up with him because she loves him and does not want (1) him to choose between his family and her; and (2) be the cause of the rift between his family.
Also, as an autistic and as a woman, she gave him a way out if he decides his family outweighs them being together. She also gave him an opportunity to look at things more objectively and to analyze for himself what he is actually getting himself into. Not only that, he can analyze his feelings: does he really love Young Woo or is he only mistaking his fascination as love? And mind you, even non-autistics fall into that trap: they mistake their fascination, or someone's uniqueness or kindness, as love.
We autistics are not blind to the concerns and issues non-autistics are saying. Young Woo is no different. You do not need to be a genius like Young Woo to understand that Joon Ho's sister's concerns are valid especially if you are living it. However, it does not mean that his sister's prejudice is correct.
Young Woo did not "let [sic] sister [sic] words get into her head". She analyzed it. She looked into herself. She deeply considered their relationship. Again, you do not need to be a genius like Young Woo to understand it.
> If she need to be in relationship with someone, she needs to put equal efforts to make it work. Blaming everything on junho for not being hyper aware when it comes too young woo is not fair.
When did Young Woo blame Joon Ho? This is the problem with you people who think you are normal, you read between the lines too much and majority of the time you miss the mark.
And are you sure that Young Woo did not "put equal efforts to make it work"? Joon Ho said he did things he does not enjoy for her, and Young Woo replied back that she did things which were very challenging for her because she knows he loves those things. That's not putting "equal efforts to make it work"?
In the first place, you never ever should start counting your sacrifices when in a romantic relationship. Once you do, it will eat you both alive. This was a clear sign that Joon Ho is starting to break, and him telling that to her is a clear sign that there were already cracks in their relationship. It was not because Young Woo did not "put equal efforts to make it work", she did. They both did. At some point things started to break down. And for crying-out-loud even in non-autistic relationships it's the same issue. So if your response is to find someone to blame, then why are you blaming it only on Young Woo?
Almost every relationship that breaks was because of both parties; and the most common reasons are "counting sacrifices" and "blaming each other". You both accepted each other's flaws and shortcomings. You both accepted each other for who they are.
Also, "equal"? Are you serious? When is "equal" equal? Do both parties have to make a list of things they did for each other to make sure things are "equal"? Or, are you going to say you did not mean it literally? Well then, if not literal, then what made you so sure Young Woo did not "put equal efforts to make it work" if what you meant by "equal" is figurative only?
> You can't use autism as an excuse everytime.
She did that? When?
It is ironic. This show is exposing the discrimination, prejudice, and stigma about autism and autistics, and I can tell right here, right now that it is working 100%.
> She’s not a fairy tale character.
EXACTLY.
People who are downrating and everything just because it didn't go the way they want it to be should just watch a fairy tale or produce their own shows.
> Junho makes assumptions about YW all the time. In many ways, his approach to being w/ her is to dote on her, please her, as if she’s a child. And like EVERY allistic person I’ve ever met, as he gets more comfortable w/ her and their relationship he drops the routine that established it (direct communication) and instead falls into his natural way being (intuitive social understanding). He begins to assume things. He assumes, after promising to wait to know each other, that they’ve peaked and are official.
HELL YEAH!
> Young-woo read into a situation, and chose to read the writing on the wall. It’s the wrong writing, the wrong wall. She doesn’t know that though, all the walls look the same to her. She chose to bow out. She both thought this is what people wanted, and felt too insecure to challenge it.
INDEED.
Exactly what I've been explaining. It's real life people. This is not a fairy tale.
Not because something is not in agreement with you that you can judge how they act based on your own cultural and personal (and even religious) standards. ^_^
I'm not saying I don't make that mistake … but this is a good opportunity to look into ourselves and put ourselves in other people's shoes.
Like I explained, I saw my grandparents in the way Mi Rae's grandmother acts wise when needed but annoying in ways "children" always find adults/parents are.
Does that mean then my grandparents were "bad" or "evil" the way you see Mi Rae's grandmother is? Remember, I've said I saw my grandparents in her grandmother. ;P
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to point out.
1. I said, "in many other countries too". I did not say "all".
2. I said, "in other countries people turns a blind eye as long as they're not blood-related".
And yet you disagreed about turning a blind eye. So are you saying that in African countries, and your own country, they do not turn a blind eye on "legal relationships", that even if they are not blood related it is such an issue?
Secondly, I'm glad you have a perfect extended family.
Jerry's number is 254x.
Unless there is a loophole (which there seems to be in the preview), there is no way to resolve the issue other than for the real daughter or the adopted son to make a sacrifice on their family registry.
I mentioned it before, this is not only a legal and social issue in Korea but in many other countries too. It just so happen Korea is strict about it, and in other countries people turns a blind eye as long as they're not blood-related.
My grandparents were like that too and see Mi Rae's grandmother acting similarly makes me appreciate my grandparents more even though they moved on from this life.
Well done. Very well done.
Hahahaha.
(ie talk to them about AoS until they don't have any energy left - LMAO)