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Replying to GwenchanaGwenchana Jun 28, 2022
Title Link: Eat, Love, Kill Spoiler
I think they should close the chapter of stalker now, its episode 7 now and we are still stuck there, the past…
They can't. After they revealed that Jin Geun also grew up in the same neighborhood, it is now clear that the disappearance of Eun Gye Young has something to do with everyone in that neighborhood.

I wouldn't be surprised if the answers to the many questions about Gye Young's disappearance is tied closely to Jin Geun.

If Eun Jung is Gye Hoon, Jin Geun and his father probably kidnapped her and threatened her they will kill his brother and parents if she so showed herself, contact them, or run away. So all her life, she kept quiet about it.

Her crying over her "brother" was is starting to appear it was not because he is her brother but because there is animosity between them.

That text she received from Noh Da Hyun was probably about how her brother is threatening all of them, including Gye Hoon. This prompted her to run to the restaurant because she probably knew her real identity.

Then the moment Jin Geun showed up, her only reaction was to finish what they stared by killing him. I wouldn't be surprised if this "Lee Eun Jung" killed Jin Geun's father and Jin Geun is using that to blackmail her to submission.

But when she learned Jin Geun is targeting Gye Hoon, all bets are off, she must kill him no matter what.

Also noticed how Jin Geun reacted when he figured out who Gye Hoon is? It was not an ordinary "oh, he was that Gye Hoon from we were kids", it was a reaction of an even intense hatred. He was probably one of the bullies Gye Young, Gye Hoon, and Da Hyun, had beaten.

Remember that bully fight scene? That scene came out a lot in the early episodes. Jin Geun probably was one of those bullies and was already obsessed with Da Hyun (the one being bullied) which was rescued by Gye Young, and later Gye Hoon.
Replying to IM YourOnlyOne Jun 28, 2022
Title Link: Eat, Love, Kill Spoiler
Episode 7: OOooh, that is an interesting twist: Lee Eun Jung and Lee Jin Geun.
I think someone got it right, there is animosity between them.

Two questions now:
1. Are they blood siblings, step-siblings, or adopted siblings? Or,
2. Were they married or had a past relationship or relatives?

While it is true that in South Korea women doesn't change their legal family name when they get married, "Lee" is one of the most common family name in SoKor and so it is not impossible for two distantly (and probably not even related at all) to get married. Hence, they share the same surname. So there is a possibility they are married or were married.

But there is another question:
* Now that Lee Jin Geun's history was revealed, that he himself grew up in the same neighborhood, is Lee Eun Jung the same?

On Lee Eun Jung's identity: I still suspect she's Eun Gye Young however, I'm now suspecting she was not crying because their Link was severed. She was probably crying because she wants to kill him herself, a revenge about something.

Or, what if … Lee Eun Jung knows her real identity as Eun Gye Young? What if, that hatred towards Lee Jin Geun was because of whatever happened when they were kids?

And she can not do anything about it back then because she was threatened, maybe Lee Jin Geun or his father, told her they'll kill his previous twin brother and parents if she contacts them and tell them she's alive?

The only way to get revenge for her silence is to … well … kill Lee Jin Geun herself. She probably kills his father too, and Jin Geun probably knew about it so he's using it keep her under control.

But because Jin Geun is now threatening to kill Eun Gye Hoon, she took action and finally got the courage to kill Jin Geun.

Haha, I love how this show is keeping things under lid. We can speculate in different directions.

But I still don't like how they are not dropping clues about the mechanics behind the Link. I guess if they do, it will make it easy to figure out the plot.
The latest from South Korea: https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/06/korean-audiences-say-they-cannot-relate-to-the-korean-version-of-money-heist

It was a huge gamble for Netflix to have chosen a remake/reboot instead of a spin-off/revival (see my original comment: https://kisskh.at/62541-money-heist#comment-10329405 ). It did not work for South Koreans, and for most of those who've watched the original.

As I also mentioned in my original comment, I haven't watched the original and yet I'm not impressed with the Korean adaptation. The only reason I'll watch Season 1 Part 2 is because I'm waiting for the plot twist through the introduction of "Seoul". If I've seen the original, more likely than not I won't continue this like the others.

If I were them, I'll edit Season 1 Part 2 and add scenes to connect MH Korea with the original MH. Maybe, just maybe, it will salvage half of those who dropped the show and rated it low.
Replying to UncreativeName Jun 28, 2022
In fairness it's not the only time a Korean production has done a remake: World of the Married is a remake of…
I can't think of a recent example … the only one I can think of right now is Train To Busan which is still under production for the US remake/reboot.

One such that is always coming to my mind is Il Mare and The Lake House. But the thing with that is back in the early 2000s, very few people outside of South Korea have seen or even heard of Il Mare. While The Lake House on the other hand had the best actors then and marketed well.

Another thing was, back then it was natural for non-English films and TV to be remade or rebooted for the English and International audience. Sure they can dub it but familiarity with actors and the setting do attract audiences (like how it is with K-drama, most people watch because of the actors not because of the story).

So, yeah, adapted shows during this era … probably anything on and before 2012, were successful because of the landscape. However, from 2013 onwards, it changed. People are more aware of the originals. If it's from another nation in another language and they laughed at the adaptation, the International media enjoys it a lot.

Today, for example, if the US adaptation of Train to Busan won't be able to surpass the original, it'll become a laughing stock.

Ah wait, I remember one: My Sassy Girl. They thought the success of The Lake House will translate to the US adaptation of My Sassy Girl. But as we all know, the US adaptation became a laughing stock. They followed the original as much as possible that they failed to capture the spirit of the show.

The same thing with The Ring franchise (Japanese), the American adaptation was a failure. The only reason people watched the adaptation was because it's horror and people watch horror because they want to be scared and to scream, the quality of the story and production doesn't matter. But that adaptation likewise failed to capture the spirit of the original, it wasn't even scary, I laughed at it, but in the original, it gave me a nightmare for weeks.

This was a risk Netflix hoped will turn out good but backfired.

Here's the latest from South Korea: https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/06/korean-audiences-say-they-cannot-relate-to-the-korean-version-of-money-heist
Replying to bluespringride Jun 27, 2022
Title Alchemy of Souls Spoiler
Was it ever said that the previous King (supposed Jang Uk’s father) powerful? they made it look like Jang Gang…
As per episode 4, the Royal Family is a separate clan of powerful mages.

They had an unwritten agreement not to not let any Royal Family and Conclave of Mages (borrowing from Dungeons & Dragons' DragonLance because I can't remember the Korean word they're using) member to fight.

It hints that the Royal Family is a pure and powerful line of mages who opted to separate themselves from the rest. While the Conclave of Mages are largely given autonomy on everything that matters using magic and mages, as long as they recognize the autonomy of Royal Family.

This sort of agreement at least keeps the balance, it is possible that in the past, they had a war.

If this interpretation is true, then it would explain why the former king tricked Jang Kang to switch bodies with him. The king, in his own body, is already weak because his body is old and sick. His own body probably did not go through proper mage training maybe because he dismissed it -- "I will be the king, they will all bow down to me, I don't need to train as a mage" attitude.

But he was cunning.

He switched body with Jang Kang, whose body is well trained, and this allowed the king to access all his latent energies. Conceived a child with Jang Kang's wife, and voila.

While Jang Uk's biological father is Jang Kang's seed, the magic flowing through his veins came from the former king.

Jang Uk inherited Jang Kang's as well as the king's. This makes him very dangerous trained or not.

In addition to that, Jang Uk is also the rightful heir to the throne.

There is still one more mystery. Who is his mother? It wouldn't be surprising if his mother was also a powerful mage and have bloodlines from important mage clans.

Then there is Nak Su / Mu Deok, who herself is very powerful.

The way this is going so far, Nak Su / Mu Deok and Jang Uk will be each other's blade and sheath. Together, they can conquer the world and become tyrants. But together, they will balance and keep each other from becoming tyrants.

I'm suspecting the rest of the Flowers of Daeho will also side with this duo and topple the false king and crown prince, as well as the old way/system of mages.
Replying to Mubee Jun 26, 2022
Title It's Beautiful Now Spoiler
Jfc what is soojae issue? his family is so caring and he has those damn attitude issues
He's young and young people generally think that way.

Secondly, he feels guilty and is blaming himself.

Third, from his standpoint, his world collapsed. He had this perfect plan, it was going smoothly, then boom … he was scammed by no less than his best friend.

I don't know what Soo Jae is thinking especially since it's a fictional character (the writer can twist it in a way that rarely happen in real life) and I can't speak for him, but as someone who has been in a similar situation, when you've outlined your life and have created a perfect vision of your future based on those plans, and then it collapses around you … your world is gone.

You reach that point where you are falling into depression and blaming everyone around you. While at the same time you are blaming yourself for not seeing the faults in your plan. If you took a loan, that even makes it harder to handle because you don't know how you can pay it back. And you do not want your family to shoulder your errors because you love them.

Eventually, all that self-blaming and overthinking and shunning everyone out will lead to suicide. This is especially true in most countries, if you die, all your debts are erased … legally. If you took a loan from loans harks, which are illegal, that's the only problem but if you're dead, it's not your problem anymore either. When you are at that point of thinking about suicide, you also stop caring about the people who will be affected after you die, you no longer care if your burden (like a loan from a loan shark) will transfer to them.

That is the general process or situation, and thinking. I am not saying suicidals are selfish. It depends on the reasons, but in Soo Jae's particular case, he's falling into that trap.

At this point, it's a battle of principles and religious beliefs. If your principles are gone too, and your religious beliefs no longer matters or you no longer believe in any of it, it usually ends to suicide. Nothing is going to stop you anymore.

No one can really blame Soo Jae. His carefully planned out life collapsed around him. It's his personal apocalypse. He can not find a way to survive in that personal apocalypse. He's pushing everyone out and isolating himself.

Hyun Jae read Soo Jae wrong that he is past that phase (as shown in the episode). As someone who've been there more than once, I knew Soo Jae is still heading towards suicide. Hyun Jae should have had followed him. He used his thinking as a lawyer instead of as human.

Soo Jae was correct, his brothers, at least Hyun Jae, wouldn't understand him. However Soo Jae was also wrong because Yoon Jae understood him, he was worried. He's feeling that way because he's more down to earth, he is more attuned to emotions than Hyun Jae who thinks logically. And Soo Jae is very emotional and his logical thinking is headed to suicide.

I hope it helps.
On It's Beautiful Now Jun 26, 2022
I love how the two eldest sons banter at each other; and how they truly care about their youngest even though they tease him a lot.

They also both understand Soo Jae because they've been young once. They know how to give him space but at the same time they're watching closely. They also believe that Soo Jae is strong enough and can go through it.

For most siblings, they may fight and tease each other, but deep inside they do care for each other. They captured that perfectly well in this show.
Replying to eddy Jun 26, 2022
Title Doctor Lawyer Spoiler
me neither, him showing up asking to assist in surgery and then saying he will take charge of it all seems fishy…
The only twist I can see is that Doctor Lawyer asked him to play the role that he accepted the offer of Goo Jin Ki, this way he can stay inside the hospital without anyone the wiser.

And he and Yi Han pretending not to trust each other in front of the nurse is probably part of their plan, and in a way use her to report to Jin Ki that Yo Seop did try to delay the operation or something.

Hopefully, that's the twist. But, that would be a niche twist … there is more tension if Yo Seop was really bought.

Dang, can't wait for the next episode. LOLs.
Replying to UncreativeName Jun 26, 2022
In fairness it's not the only time a Korean production has done a remake: World of the Married is a remake of…
That's true, and maybe they did weigh the two approaches: remake/reboot vs spin-off/revival -- especially since there are a lot of examples already. I'd even say they probably invited select people to watch the first versions as a case study and adjusted the script and direction based on feedback from it.

However, it is not about "blaming". It is about the approach or method they chose. They still have an opportunity to salvage it, maybe half of those who dropped/dismissed the show will finish it if they will connect MH: Korea to the original in Season 1 Part 2. Again, maybe.

Just because other projects were successful as a remake/reboot does not mean the next one will be. The burden on a remake/reboot is to surpass the original, fail at that, and well …

The thing with the remake/reboot approach is it will always be compared to the original. However, for the spin-off/revival approach, the comparison with the original is limited.
I haven't watched the original but based on the comments here and everywhere else, Netflix made the mistake of writing Money Heist: Korea as a remake/reboot instead of a spin-off/revival.

Almost every single time, a remake fails because it can not surpass the original. The story is largely the same, the differences were simply the actors, the places, the side plots, a few dialogues here and there, and other minor details. But overall, a remake/reboot is a copy.

What Netflix should've done is a spin-off/revival.

In a spin-off/revival, the show exist in the same universe as the original. They may mention the original in passing or not, it does not matter. What matters is that the plot is different and not a re-telling of the same story.

If they just want a re-telling of the same story, then a spin-off/revival is still a better choice but this time, they should at least mention the original in some capacity. It would've changed the expectations of the viewers to "ahh, these characters were inspired by the first heist". Or, they could've tied the Professor in some way -- maybe he was partially involved behind-the-scenes from the original heist but left because of disagreement and went to Korea to do his own heist based on his own plans.

Instead they chose to do a remake/reboot. They don't exist in the same universe. Obviously, people who've watch the original have no justification to excuse why it's a copy of the original story.

These little things, how a show is approached and marketed, can make or break a show that was based on an original.

Successful remake/reboots: BattleStar Galactica, Charmed, MacGyver, The 12 Monkeys, Lethal Weapon, War of the Worlds

Failed remake/reboots: RoboCop, The Karate Kid, Total Recall, Knight Rider, Minority Report, Flatliners

Successful spin-off/revival: The Twilight Zone, The X-Files, Doctor Who, Supernatural universe, Highlander, The Vampire Diaries universe

Again, I haven't watched the original Money Heist and I'm not impressed with Money Heist Korea. The only was practically carried by Tokyo and Berlin. If you remove these two, at least for me, there's no reason to watch. For Part 2, I'm waiting for it because of Seoul. I'm intrigued what her role will be in the team and why she has a codename.

Now, if Seoul is the character which will tie this in with the original series, then it will probably recover some of the ratings and audiences who dropped the show. Hopefully that is the case, because it is better that MH: Korea exists in the same universe as the original.
Replying to Money Jun 26, 2022
Korean dramas will seriously put hollywood out of business in a couple years. Hollywood actors need to start taking…
Hollywood is just a political platform. There were documentations about it, even History and Discovery made their own back in the early 2000s how Hollywood changed and turned into a political platform.

It is a prime example of how not to let the elite to centralize things and dominate an industry. Once they have full control, you can never wrestle it away from them. Even their music industry is a political platform. If you go against them, they can make sure the little airwaves deal you make won't be heard by the masses.
Replying to Hotaru Nauruzova Jun 26, 2022
Anyone else noticed how Rio landed his finger in Australia and not in Brazil?
Oh and they should be thankful Australians and Brazilians don't care. LOLs. If they did that with China or Korea, it'll blow to the next galaxy. =))
Replying to Hotaru Nauruzova Jun 26, 2022
Anyone else noticed how Rio landed his finger in Australia and not in Brazil?
Yep. It was a rookie mistake directors make. I can't believe that error made the final cut, the director is not a rookie.

Unless it was intentional / an Easter Egg because the original did the same? No idea because I haven't watched the original.
Replying to IM YourOnlyOne Jun 26, 2022
Title Doctor Lawyer Spoiler
Who got the heart? Part 2 (after episode 8)That revelation was so twisted.
There is now a possibility that the one who received the kid's heart was the bodyguard of the Assemblywoman who stabbed himself.

Probably, when they tried to save him, it eventually failed. The Assemblywoman threatened them, and Cho Tae Sub, I mean, Goo Jin Ki, also needed the Assemblywoman's support for his long-term plan in R&D. So to save him … he stole the kid's heart.

If correct, that is so twisted. A kid's life was sacrificed for a bodyguard's life. We are not trying to justify or say that it would've been better if it was someone else like a VVIP or VIP, but in a society where hierarchy is deeply ingrained, that's an insult, especially if that person's line of work puts his life always on the line. That's like saying, "thank you for your heart but I won't take care of it".
Replying to Jagiyyaa Jun 26, 2022
I take offence to jaydens English. they should sub his English cos I can't fucking hear anything.
The translators probably can't understand a thing either. LOLs.
Replying to Jagiyyaa Jun 26, 2022
I take offence to jaydens English. they should sub his English cos I can't fucking hear anything.
Same. I can't understand a thing.

The actor married a Hawaiian so he sure can pronounce English properly, why did they have to ask him to speak Korean English with a "foreigner" diction.
Replying to IM YourOnlyOne Jun 26, 2022
Title Doctor Lawyer Spoiler
I don't trust that Yo Seop.
His timing is just too perfect to have been asked to go there and mess the operation, or at least to delay it.