What does the end of the episode mean? I am very confused. I just feel like we're being tricked haha.Really, I've…
Remember, this is a show about the "psychopath"/"genius" gene. There are two people born who had a father with a "psychopath"/"genius" gene.
In other words, the show is going to play on the possibility that these two sons are both a psychopath and a genius, proving that we can not predict who will become a psychopath and/or a genius. (Which is already happening in other places.)
The other point they're playing at is that a psychopath/genius will do anything to get what they want. We have the serial killer and then we have someone who is hell bent on finding the person who killed the grandmother.
This will pit the two pschopaths/geniuses against each other. These two will do everything to outdo each other. It will become a battle of the brains and wits and who's willing to go cross the line they set for themselves they'll never cross (every person, even psychopaths/geniuses have boundaries they'll never cross).
The stories they used are true-to-life. The characters were also true-to-life. ;PI love the way Hyun Seung loves.…
> "the story they used wasn't true to life, and even if it was, the way it was portrayed was hard to watch"
So I guess the experiences we had were dreams?
> "unrequited love is extremely painful and often occurs because people don't realize that the person they like doesn't give a crap about them"
Not really. There are people who are happy to love someone from afar and they are happy about it. It does not occur because they fail to realize that the person they love doesn't give a crap about them, they love someone from afar because they chose to do so and they are fully aware the person doesn't give a crap about them.
> "the ml didn't ever realize that song-ah didn't like him back as much or wasn't as invested in him as he was in her"
Oh, he is fully aware. That was why he was making it easier for her. You see, he made a choice to pursue her regardless of the fact that she will never be able to come close to the way he loves her. What he failed to consider was that it will eventually affect him. Now how he handles that stage (when it starts to affect him and their relationship) is the real battle.
Love is a choice. Entering into a relationship is a decision. You can not say "if only I knew this and that" later because you made a choice, you made a decision, and you acted on it. You also can not say "I love you but I don't like this and that about you", that's not love at all.
There are always two unique individuals who agrees to enter into a romantic relationship. If you do so, then you are accepting all of their being regardless of their flaws and shortcomings, regardless of their past, mistakes, and social status.
For example, I am autistic (aspergers syndrome to be exact). If you can not love me for who I am then why enter into a relationship with you? We will have endless fights down the road.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "loving blindly". When you enter into a relationship, you and the other party agreed to it. Both of you are fully aware and know the answers to why, what, how, when, where.
The thing is that due to covid they definitely can't film this but SOME news would be great to assure us or spoil…
The lead actor recently posted an update that they started filming. They won't be able to visit other countries though because of the pandemic, and that it will take longer to film than planned.
He isn't sure if he's straight or bi or gay.Personally, their story is not over. It looks like Yun Seung was fine…
Yep. It's really sad her husband chose to face his future alone. She cares for him. She loves him. She accepted him for who he was, is, and will choose to be. She knows that loving someone means no matter what their past might be, you accept it.
Some would probably say that she only wants them to stay together because of their daughter. I think not because she was the one who re-initiated the divorce (the first time was her husband and she tore the paper), and she was the one who gave him a deal on how they'll proceed with the divorce (they'll delay their divorce until the time he's ready to face his issues by himself).
In some countries, they'd probably say that they shouldn't have divorced no matter what because they have a daughter. They have a point but we need not forget that they are also human beings who will eventually end up arguing a lot, which would be worst for their daughter, especially in their case where the main issue for her was him hiding things; and for him, he's not sure about his own identity.
Yun Seung was wise. I guess that was the reason why despite his coldness and not telling her he loves her throughout their married life was because she understands what it means to love someone. That even if you're married, they are still two unique individuals; and she wouldn't marry him if she doesn't like his character.
You know, she's the female version of her younger brother. If I will take a guess, she'll stay a single mom to the end. Not because she's afraid of anything rather because she truly found love in her ex-husband and it was more than enough for her.
i thought Zio's daughter might fall in love with one of the cult babies like hey look this person is the same…
Ahh, good point! Since he can't find her, hopefully she'll find refuge with the fact that there are others like her.
You know, that would make for a very interesting twist. The government and the "family" they are controlling will pit the father and daughter against each other (again) while they try to keep control or take the army away from Zi O's influence.
I will accept this ending only if they make season 2 with a reasonable plot and a better ending (The best ending…
True. Hopefully they won't turn her into a naive character, especially if they will introduce her as someone who isn't, like what they did with Gu Reum.
Glad to see another comment that understands it. There's too much "it's unrealistic" and "they don't exist in…
Exactly. I don't know if the majority of those leaving comments that "it's unrealistic" ever had a relationship or know someone who's in a relationship.
I remember exchanging comments with someone who really stood their ground that this drama (and "Lovestruck in the City") is unrealistic. What a sad life if they grew up protected and pamphered like a prince or a princess.
It just is unbelievable there are far too many people who either never had a relationship; or are in a "perfect" relationship that they can't believe these dramas and the characters were based on true-to-life stories.
I will accept this ending only if they make season 2 with a reasonable plot and a better ending (The best ending…
Yeah. The way Zi O started acting was no different from a serial murderer, a psychopath. I suddenly remembered Soujiro Seta from Rurouni Kenshin who was psychopath who only believes that "the weak shall die and the strong shall live" or "survival of the fittest".
If there's a villain, there must be an anti-thesis to the villain, the hero. If they'll ever make a Season 2, it looks like their daughter will be that hero. She will probably start weak because she would have grown up very different, probably discriminated and hunted too. But that will be what would make her decide to save stop her father and his 10,000 army. A total opposite of her father.
This drama had a awesome plot but.. I love this drama upto ep 8. How can an experienced detective can stupidly…
Exactly, that was the turning point. I hope they are checking this comment section, and if not, I hope the Koreans were also disappointed and saying the same thing.
i thought Zio's daughter might fall in love with one of the cult babies like hey look this person is the same…
That's possible, then she'll probably turn him to her cause. Hehe.
Aside: I'm only thinking she'll go against her father because the family which adopted her taught her to be a good person. Assuming she grew up with a good family versus the Zi O army who were molded by Zi O, his insane father, and the crazy government.
Also, there's a possibility the baby stopped forgetting already when she charges up. Noticed how in the last episode the baby listened to her mother and stopped her charge up? I'm thinking that Gu Reum finally got through and her baby will always remember her last words.
If so … she'll probably end up waging a war against Zi O's army, carrying her mother's wishes to be good and show to the world that she's not a "monster" not like her father.
So kids here is the lesson of the drama; VALUE AND PRIOTISE YOURSELF OVER PEOPLE WHO DOES IT THEMSELVES. Am i…
As someone who was in a similar relationship like Hyun Seung and Song Ah, for 15 years, I disagree. ^_^
A relationship works ONLY if the couple knows how to handle their situation. It is a total myth that a relationship will only work if there is "balance" and/or "the same amount of effort" given. "Balance" and "the same amount of effort" will never happen no matter what the two of you do, plan, or agree on. Even identical twins can not achieve such and they grew up together under the same roof, how much more two unique individuals?
What matters is how the two of you handles your differences. That IS the ONLY way a relationship will work. Everything else are simply stepping stones to properly handle the "imbalance".
Let me ask you this: did you enter a relationship hoping the other party will conform to your "ideal boyfriend/girlfriend"? Maybe what you need is doll.
Both of you are two unique individuals, you can never and must never expect someone to conform to your own personal ideals of how they should be, how they should act, how they should think, how they should make decisions, how they should love, and how much they should give. A relationship is not a business where effort is being measured. True love does not expect anything in return.
You love a person for who they are, and that means you love that person with all their shortcomings too. So, if they don't give the same level of love that you do and you're whining about it, then you don't love that person at all.
In Hyun Seung and Song Ah's relationship, there was no one who was "selfish". Song Ah wasn't selfish at all.
Again, as someone who was in a similar relationship and who loves the way Hyun Seung does, I disagree that "this drama romanticises the pain of one person who's selfless". It doesn't. On the contrary, they showed what is actually real and true-to-life. Claiming that they romanticized it is an insult to those of us who've been through it and who loves the way Hyun Seung does. It is also an insult to people like Song Ah (a man or a woman) who happened to be the recipient of a giver-type and healer-type person's love--they never asked for it and they should never be blamed if eventually they can't handle it anymore (like Song Ah did when she broke up, like what my then gf of 15 long years did last August 16, 2020).
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In other words, the show is going to play on the possibility that these two sons are both a psychopath and a genius, proving that we can not predict who will become a psychopath and/or a genius. (Which is already happening in other places.)
The other point they're playing at is that a psychopath/genius will do anything to get what they want. We have the serial killer and then we have someone who is hell bent on finding the person who killed the grandmother.
This will pit the two pschopaths/geniuses against each other. These two will do everything to outdo each other. It will become a battle of the brains and wits and who's willing to go cross the line they set for themselves they'll never cross (every person, even psychopaths/geniuses have boundaries they'll never cross).
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So I guess the experiences we had were dreams?
> "unrequited love is extremely painful and often occurs because people don't realize that the person they like doesn't give a crap about them"
Not really. There are people who are happy to love someone from afar and they are happy about it. It does not occur because they fail to realize that the person they love doesn't give a crap about them, they love someone from afar because they chose to do so and they are fully aware the person doesn't give a crap about them.
> "the ml didn't ever realize that song-ah didn't like him back as much or wasn't as invested in him as he was in her"
Oh, he is fully aware. That was why he was making it easier for her. You see, he made a choice to pursue her regardless of the fact that she will never be able to come close to the way he loves her. What he failed to consider was that it will eventually affect him. Now how he handles that stage (when it starts to affect him and their relationship) is the real battle.
Love is a choice. Entering into a relationship is a decision. You can not say "if only I knew this and that" later because you made a choice, you made a decision, and you acted on it. You also can not say "I love you but I don't like this and that about you", that's not love at all.
There are always two unique individuals who agrees to enter into a romantic relationship. If you do so, then you are accepting all of their being regardless of their flaws and shortcomings, regardless of their past, mistakes, and social status.
For example, I am autistic (aspergers syndrome to be exact). If you can not love me for who I am then why enter into a relationship with you? We will have endless fights down the road.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "loving blindly". When you enter into a relationship, you and the other party agreed to it. Both of you are fully aware and know the answers to why, what, how, when, where.
^_^
At least that's how I understood his update. ;)
Some would probably say that she only wants them to stay together because of their daughter. I think not because she was the one who re-initiated the divorce (the first time was her husband and she tore the paper), and she was the one who gave him a deal on how they'll proceed with the divorce (they'll delay their divorce until the time he's ready to face his issues by himself).
In some countries, they'd probably say that they shouldn't have divorced no matter what because they have a daughter. They have a point but we need not forget that they are also human beings who will eventually end up arguing a lot, which would be worst for their daughter, especially in their case where the main issue for her was him hiding things; and for him, he's not sure about his own identity.
Yun Seung was wise. I guess that was the reason why despite his coldness and not telling her he loves her throughout their married life was because she understands what it means to love someone. That even if you're married, they are still two unique individuals; and she wouldn't marry him if she doesn't like his character.
You know, she's the female version of her younger brother. If I will take a guess, she'll stay a single mom to the end. Not because she's afraid of anything rather because she truly found love in her ex-husband and it was more than enough for her.
^_^
You know, that would make for a very interesting twist. The government and the "family" they are controlling will pit the father and daughter against each other (again) while they try to keep control or take the army away from Zi O's influence.
Definitely something to watch!
I remember exchanging comments with someone who really stood their ground that this drama (and "Lovestruck in the City") is unrealistic. What a sad life if they grew up protected and pamphered like a prince or a princess.
It just is unbelievable there are far too many people who either never had a relationship; or are in a "perfect" relationship that they can't believe these dramas and the characters were based on true-to-life stories.
Crazy.
If there's a villain, there must be an anti-thesis to the villain, the hero. If they'll ever make a Season 2, it looks like their daughter will be that hero. She will probably start weak because she would have grown up very different, probably discriminated and hunted too. But that will be what would make her decide to save stop her father and his 10,000 army. A total opposite of her father.
It'll be a very interesting plot if ever.
I'm thinking it will be L.U.C.A.: The Age of Eels. :P hahaha
It also gave me an impression I was watching the unaired ending of The Uncanny Counter. Lols.
Aside:
I'm only thinking she'll go against her father because the family which adopted her taught her to be a good person. Assuming she grew up with a good family versus the Zi O army who were molded by Zi O, his insane father, and the crazy government.
Also, there's a possibility the baby stopped forgetting already when she charges up. Noticed how in the last episode the baby listened to her mother and stopped her charge up? I'm thinking that Gu Reum finally got through and her baby will always remember her last words.
If so … she'll probably end up waging a war against Zi O's army, carrying her mother's wishes to be good and show to the world that she's not a "monster" not like her father.
A relationship works ONLY if the couple knows how to handle their situation. It is a total myth that a relationship will only work if there is "balance" and/or "the same amount of effort" given. "Balance" and "the same amount of effort" will never happen no matter what the two of you do, plan, or agree on. Even identical twins can not achieve such and they grew up together under the same roof, how much more two unique individuals?
What matters is how the two of you handles your differences. That IS the ONLY way a relationship will work. Everything else are simply stepping stones to properly handle the "imbalance".
Let me ask you this: did you enter a relationship hoping the other party will conform to your "ideal boyfriend/girlfriend"? Maybe what you need is doll.
Both of you are two unique individuals, you can never and must never expect someone to conform to your own personal ideals of how they should be, how they should act, how they should think, how they should make decisions, how they should love, and how much they should give. A relationship is not a business where effort is being measured. True love does not expect anything in return.
You love a person for who they are, and that means you love that person with all their shortcomings too. So, if they don't give the same level of love that you do and you're whining about it, then you don't love that person at all.
In Hyun Seung and Song Ah's relationship, there was no one who was "selfish". Song Ah wasn't selfish at all.
Again, as someone who was in a similar relationship and who loves the way Hyun Seung does, I disagree that "this drama romanticises the pain of one person who's selfless". It doesn't. On the contrary, they showed what is actually real and true-to-life. Claiming that they romanticized it is an insult to those of us who've been through it and who loves the way Hyun Seung does. It is also an insult to people like Song Ah (a man or a woman) who happened to be the recipient of a giver-type and healer-type person's love--they never asked for it and they should never be blamed if eventually they can't handle it anymore (like Song Ah did when she broke up, like what my then gf of 15 long years did last August 16, 2020).
Don't insult us.
^_^