If you have access to Viu SG, try to search there too. For most popular Korean shows and dramas, the various Viu regions share the same library. It's the those with less demand that they usually differ (like there was a movie I'm searching in ViuPH but is no longer available but is still in ViuSG, unfortunately, the movie is premiem in ViuSG 😭).
I'm not sure if you need to register first, but it's free. The only one that is premium is the latest episode (and usually stays premium for 4 to 5 days after it was released). Viu PH have RM from E01 onwards.
Well said! I honestly haven't been able to sit down and watch the episode because the hate comments on the preview…
Yep! They need to be more vocal and explain things. They're making her famous, so it should follow that they also help her if things are getting out of control. (And the same for the other regular guests they made famous.)
Either way, her detractors are illogical. The members defended her choice and appreciated her explaining things. YeEun was worried too but the members reassured her that people nas no reason to react negatively.
There was even a scene in the episode how YeEun said that maybe she can give the gift to her mom. She didn't want to accept it. I think it was SukJin, he liked her idea and he even said—because YeEun is having second thoughts—paraphrasing, "If you received a gift, it's all up to you what you want to do with it".
The oldest member understood it and was happy about how his gift will be given to her mom.
YeEun's detractors, they just want to say something negative. 🤷🏽
She's practical and honest instead of being a fake pretending she liked the gifts and then just storing it elsewhere or throwing it out. It's a progressive mindset.
Aed what difference does it make compared to wedding gifts where the couple notes in the invitations "cash is preferred"? It's just the same. Newlyweds want to avoid receiving 10 rice cookers; 10 irons; 20 curtains; 5 TV sets. 🤣 YeEun simply applied the same logic.
(Paraphrased) ML: "What's your real name?" FL: "Your reaction when I tried to touch you speaks that you still hate me. No, I won't give my real name." FL: *she leaves and a butterfly landed on her*
It was a hint to him that her name is 나비 (NaBi).
Why didn't she just tell him? Because names have powers. This ia very common belief in many cultures around the world since the ancient times and to this very day. Even the penname/stagename one chooses has powers.
But, if you don't give your name (ie vocalizing it or handing out your ID), there is almost no power to it.
Since he still hates her, he might accidentally or intentionally curse her.
Now, even if the ML figured out the butterfly clue, it won't have any power. And his doubt if he guessed right guarantees there's zero power (doubt = 0 power).
So, no harm done.
Option 2: 2FL is now free of her burden
Someone asked about the connection between the 2FL's butterfly and the bonus scene butterfly, and this gave me an idea.
The butterfly landing on the 2FL's shoulder is a symbolic meaning that her child's coffin she's carrying on her back has been lifted. The 2FL is now free of her past, burden, and bitterness that controlled her life.
To explain that scene, they added the bonus scene.
In the bonus scene, we saw she FL hand a butterfly to the spirit possessing a man, then the spirit left.
In many cultures around the world, a butterfly is a bridge or channel to help souls move on to their next destination.
The evil spirit was refusing to leave but after he was handed a butterfly, it finally decided to move on.
Which explains the butterfly scene for the 2FL. What did the butterfly help to move on? None other than the child in the coffin on the 2FL's back. Her child she wouldn't let go.
She finally let go of her past, so a butterfly picked the child to help it move on.
I'm just guessing here based on the sequence:He asked for her real name but she didn't tell him because he still…
Someone suggested there's a connection to the 2FL butterfly and the butterfly in the bonus scene.
This gave me another possibility.
In many cultures, butterflies symbolizes a soul moving on. It serves as a channel or conduit to cross over.
When a butterfly landed on the 2FL, it symbolizes that her child in a coffin behind her back finally moved on. She's now free of her burden and her past.
To explain that butterfly, they added a bonus scene, the butterfly exorcism scene.
In ending. why did ML ask Yeomhwa for her real name? any special reasons? and why does she have another name..…
The ML was being emotional and confused by it. He thought that he's filling pity to 2FL after what he realized with BongSu's real name. He though, "if someone calls her by her real name, she'll become a good person".
But when she was going to touch his face, he flinched. He fears her. He wasn't feeling pity. The 2FL refused because she understood that once the ML gets his thoughts and emotions sorted, he might accidentally curse her.
Real names are powerful. It is tied to your soul. This is a very common belief in so many cultures around the world, from the ancient to this day.
Q2: Why does she have another name?
Because she knows the power of real names. Her mother also no doubt gave it to her when she adopted her.
Q3: Butterfly on shoulder
I'm guessing here only. Since she refused to give her real name, the 2FL kind of like gave him a parting clue, the butterfly.
Her real name is more likely 나비 (NaBi).
But since she didn't tell him (as in spoken), even if he figured it out, it won't have any power. And his doubt if he got it right guarantees there's no power to knowing her name.
Q4: Bonus scene butterfly.
I can't remember this one properly, so you may have to dig this one to untangle the potential mess.
Butterflies are culturally known as a conduit to the spirit world. They transport human souls to their final destination, be it in paradise or damnation.
She handed a toy butterfly to that overstaying spirit as a symbolic gesture of helping him move on. Because if he doesn't, he'll soon turn into a demon and there's no saving him after that.
Q5: You line the bonus scene butterfly with 2FL's butterfly.
You are correct in linking them, and I for one didn't notice it. However, the meaning is that 2FL butterfly finally moved on. Her child's coffin behind her back that's been weighing her down, finally moved on. Her child she won't let go was carried over by the butterfly.
I really hated that yeomhwa didn't get any consequences for all the evil she did. It would have been satisfactory…
The 2FL isn't evil. She's a prodigal daughter consumed by her child's death. She's living in the past. She wants to resurrect her child at the expense of her life. But her mother stopped her because it's a violation of the order of the universe and the divine.
Then she found a way. She found a lost human soul that is already in the "evil spirit" stage. She tricked BongSu that she will help him become a deity, but all she wants is to turn him into a Demonic Spirit so she can use him.
But BongSu has different plans. He doesn't want to be a demonic spirit, and him reaching the "evil spirit" stage was probably a mistake on his part or because he hasn't moved on he eventually did.
In Korean spirit mythology, when a human who wants to stay in the living world doesn't move on, they eventually become an "evil sipirt". Or, if they died with deep resentment and hatred.
In the "evil spirit" stage, they are still human spirits. They just have access to demonic powers.
The final conversion is becoming a "demonic spirit". As a demonic spirit, they are no longer a human spirit and thus they'll go to eternal damnation. But as an "evil spirit" they can still be saved.
BongSu isone such human spirit. He simply reached the "evil spirit" stage but still is a human spirit.
The 2FL wants to use him and turn him into a demonic spirit "deity" (more like bound to her) but BongSu doesn't want it.
also I did not see bongsu as evil at all. like... what exactly did he do that was evil... he was just a lost ghost…
In Korean shamanism, spirits have different stages.
When a person dies, if they feel they have an unfinished business, their spirit lingers on the living world.
If they died with strong resentment, hatred, they start doing evil things but they still have control. Eventually, they become an evil spirit with evil powers.
They can still be saved.
But once they become a demonic spirit, that's it. They can never be saved. Their destination is eternal damnation.
BongSu is already an evil spirit. What the 2FL was trying to help him about was to turn him into a demonic spirit so she can use him.
But BongSu has different plans. He wants to be saved, not turn into a demonic spirit.
"Evil spirit" is a stage. They are still human spirits (ie not demons) but can already harness demonic powers. Their final stage is becoming a demonic spirit, in which case, they are no longer a human spirit.
"Evil" does not necessarily mean "evil" the way it is understood in English.
what is this all yongboo name thingy, didnt bongsu already visit the stone statue with name before, like who is…
BongSu's real name is YeongBu. He is the shorter kid.
The taller kid was BongSu's imagination that got stuck when he died, so his memories retained the imaginary friend.
BongSu the spirit, overtime, confused his identity. He thought he is the taller kid and is looking for his name so he can move on. When actually, he knew his name from the beginning. His problem is, he thought he is not YeongBu.
So, when he finally reconciled his memories, he realised that he is the kid and his name is YeongBu. He knew all this time, probably since he became a spirit with an unfinished business.
Throughout the series run there was something about this series that felt off to me. I couldn't really put my…
It appears that way, but it's actually a story about a prodical daughter. There were no antagonists and protagonists. They're just a family with a complex strings of fate.
The 2FL isn't evil or anything. She lost her way because of her extreme desire to resurrect her child but her mother stopped her because it's against the law of the universe and the divine, and it also means she has to pay with her life (law of equivalence). In her desperation, she called upon a lost soul with an unfinish business.
That is why they are all fine with having the 2FL in the same house. She isn't completly "turned", in fact, the demons are not turning her, it is her who is violating the laws. So, she isn't an evil witch or anything. Just a prodigal daughter who can't let go of the past.
Why when Seong Ah returns to her body she acts as if everything is fine but then when she falls asleep and wakes…
BongSu got trapped in FL's body because that was her plan all along.
Remember the scene where she kissed the ML and threw salt? She absorbed BongSu.
Then when BongSu-FL was discovered, he kissed the ML and 2ML. BongSu wants to leave the FL's body but the FL is holding on to him, that is why the kissing isn't working.
The ML figured out how to let the FL's guard down. He talked to her in her dream world, making her wish the life she missed and she want. When her guard was down and caught up reminiscing and dreaming WhatIfs, the ML kissed her in the dream and in real life.
The ML then absorbed BongSu.
So, when FL woke up, she was confused. She didn't expect it, less so for the ML to know how to do the soulkiss absorption method.
She was quick to react but the ML stopped her, "I worked so hard to get him back". He was referring to how hard it was to get her guard down, because the FL is wise and attentive. It will never happen again if she re-absorb BongSu.
The FL isn't hiding or anything. She trapped BongSu in her body intentionally to save everyone. If she didn't, BongSu's presence will kill everyone including the host. In an earlier episode, it was mentioned that anyone near a the evil spirit eventually dies if they stay near.
The FL was secluded herself because the evil spirit is in her. Anyone close to the evil spirit will die. For the FL, it's better for her to die than let anyone else die.
I knew there were people who buy eggs and sperm from genius people( they sell them for many) from clinics, but…
Yep.
The real villainy were: 1. Discarding human beings (and using kidnapping to cover it up, and only requiring one parent) 2. Forced sperm and egg farming if the subject doesn't want to volunteer and they have good genes 3. Forced surrogacy 4. Selling lab babies
If all of those are removed, it appears that everything else are fine for today's audience.
1. Genetic manipulation 2. Mixing the best genes 3. Surrogacy, if say, you can't carry the baby for whatever reason 4. Donating or selling your sperm/egg
Based on the comments from non-Koreans here on MDL, the main issues are selling babies and discarding them.I haven't…
I guess Koreans can breath. 😅
But of course, MDL comments is not a good sample. It's minuscule and it's easy to create multiple accounts.
The real challenge are the conservatives/traditionalists who only wants the natural way. No lab babies. No genetic manipulations. No rDNA bioengineering. No surrogacy. No IVF.
I wonder if the lab is also using rDNA (Recombinant DNA). It's not illegal either. There were also babies born…
Based on the comments from non-Koreans here on MDL, the main issues are selling babies and discarding them.
I haven't seen a comment that disagrees with lab babies.
Surrogacy seems to be more on the neutral side. I guess that reflects reality too, it's illegal in many countries but legal in equally many countries. With only some without any law about it's legality or otherwise.
No issues I've read about DNA bioengineering. It appears that MDL commenters are open to this technology.
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If you have access to Viu SG, try to search there too. For most popular Korean shows and dramas, the various Viu regions share the same library. It's the those with less demand that they usually differ (like there was a movie I'm searching in ViuPH but is no longer available but is still in ViuSG, unfortunately, the movie is premiem in ViuSG 😭).
I'm not sure if you need to register first, but it's free. The only one that is premium is the latest episode (and usually stays premium for 4 to 5 days after it was released). Viu PH have RM from E01 onwards.
Either way, her detractors are illogical. The members defended her choice and appreciated her explaining things. YeEun was worried too but the members reassured her that people nas no reason to react negatively.
There was even a scene in the episode how YeEun said that maybe she can give the gift to her mom. She didn't want to accept it. I think it was SukJin, he liked her idea and he even said—because YeEun is having second thoughts—paraphrasing, "If you received a gift, it's all up to you what you want to do with it".
The oldest member understood it and was happy about how his gift will be given to her mom.
YeEun's detractors, they just want to say something negative. 🤷🏽
She's practical and honest instead of being a fake pretending she liked the gifts and then just storing it elsewhere or throwing it out. It's a progressive mindset.
Aed what difference does it make compared to wedding gifts where the couple notes in the invitations "cash is preferred"? It's just the same. Newlyweds want to avoid receiving 10 rice cookers; 10 irons; 20 curtains; 5 TV sets. 🤣 YeEun simply applied the same logic.
🖖🏽
The Butterfly Explained https://kisskh.at/discussions/736965-gyeon-woo-and-fairy/143750-the-butterfly-explained
Option 1: It is the 2FL's real name: 나비 (NaBi)
The sequence was this:
(Paraphrased)
ML: "What's your real name?"
FL: "Your reaction when I tried to touch you speaks that you still hate me. No, I won't give my real name."
FL: *she leaves and a butterfly landed on her*
It was a hint to him that her name is 나비 (NaBi).
Why didn't she just tell him? Because names have powers. This ia very common belief in many cultures around the world since the ancient times and to this very day. Even the penname/stagename one chooses has powers.
But, if you don't give your name (ie vocalizing it or handing out your ID), there is almost no power to it.
Since he still hates her, he might accidentally or intentionally curse her.
Now, even if the ML figured out the butterfly clue, it won't have any power. And his doubt if he guessed right guarantees there's zero power (doubt = 0 power).
So, no harm done.
Option 2: 2FL is now free of her burden
Someone asked about the connection between the 2FL's butterfly and the bonus scene butterfly, and this gave me an idea.
The butterfly landing on the 2FL's shoulder is a symbolic meaning that her child's coffin she's carrying on her back has been lifted. The 2FL is now free of her past, burden, and bitterness that controlled her life.
To explain that scene, they added the bonus scene.
In the bonus scene, we saw she FL hand a butterfly to the spirit possessing a man, then the spirit left.
In many cultures around the world, a butterfly is a bridge or channel to help souls move on to their next destination.
The evil spirit was refusing to leave but after he was handed a butterfly, it finally decided to move on.
Which explains the butterfly scene for the 2FL. What did the butterfly help to move on? None other than the child in the coffin on the 2FL's back. Her child she wouldn't let go.
She finally let go of her past, so a butterfly picked the child to help it move on.
This gave me another possibility.
In many cultures, butterflies symbolizes a soul moving on. It serves as a channel or conduit to cross over.
When a butterfly landed on the 2FL, it symbolizes that her child in a coffin behind her back finally moved on. She's now free of her burden and her past.
To explain that butterfly, they added a bonus scene, the butterfly exorcism scene.
But when she was going to touch his face, he flinched. He fears her. He wasn't feeling pity. The 2FL refused because she understood that once the ML gets his thoughts and emotions sorted, he might accidentally curse her.
Real names are powerful. It is tied to your soul. This is a very common belief in so many cultures around the world, from the ancient to this day.
Q2: Why does she have another name?
Because she knows the power of real names. Her mother also no doubt gave it to her when she adopted her.
Q3: Butterfly on shoulder
I'm guessing here only. Since she refused to give her real name, the 2FL kind of like gave him a parting clue, the butterfly.
Her real name is more likely 나비 (NaBi).
But since she didn't tell him (as in spoken), even if he figured it out, it won't have any power. And his doubt if he got it right guarantees there's no power to knowing her name.
Q4: Bonus scene butterfly.
I can't remember this one properly, so you may have to dig this one to untangle the potential mess.
Butterflies are culturally known as a conduit to the spirit world. They transport human souls to their final destination, be it in paradise or damnation.
She handed a toy butterfly to that overstaying spirit as a symbolic gesture of helping him move on. Because if he doesn't, he'll soon turn into a demon and there's no saving him after that.
Q5: You line the bonus scene butterfly with 2FL's butterfly.
You are correct in linking them, and I for one didn't notice it. However, the meaning is that 2FL butterfly finally moved on. Her child's coffin behind her back that's been weighing her down, finally moved on. Her child she won't let go was carried over by the butterfly.
To help explain it, they added a bonus scene.
Then she found a way. She found a lost human soul that is already in the "evil spirit" stage. She tricked BongSu that she will help him become a deity, but all she wants is to turn him into a Demonic Spirit so she can use him.
But BongSu has different plans. He doesn't want to be a demonic spirit, and him reaching the "evil spirit" stage was probably a mistake on his part or because he hasn't moved on he eventually did.
In Korean spirit mythology, when a human who wants to stay in the living world doesn't move on, they eventually become an "evil sipirt". Or, if they died with deep resentment and hatred.
In the "evil spirit" stage, they are still human spirits. They just have access to demonic powers.
The final conversion is becoming a "demonic spirit". As a demonic spirit, they are no longer a human spirit and thus they'll go to eternal damnation. But as an "evil spirit" they can still be saved.
BongSu isone such human spirit. He simply reached the "evil spirit" stage but still is a human spirit.
The 2FL wants to use him and turn him into a demonic spirit "deity" (more like bound to her) but BongSu doesn't want it.
When a person dies, if they feel they have an unfinished business, their spirit lingers on the living world.
If they died with strong resentment, hatred, they start doing evil things but they still have control. Eventually, they become an evil spirit with evil powers.
They can still be saved.
But once they become a demonic spirit, that's it. They can never be saved. Their destination is eternal damnation.
BongSu is already an evil spirit. What the 2FL was trying to help him about was to turn him into a demonic spirit so she can use him.
But BongSu has different plans. He wants to be saved, not turn into a demonic spirit.
"Evil spirit" is a stage. They are still human spirits (ie not demons) but can already harness demonic powers. Their final stage is becoming a demonic spirit, in which case, they are no longer a human spirit.
"Evil" does not necessarily mean "evil" the way it is understood in English.
The taller kid was BongSu's imagination that got stuck when he died, so his memories retained the imaginary friend.
BongSu the spirit, overtime, confused his identity. He thought he is the taller kid and is looking for his name so he can move on. When actually, he knew his name from the beginning. His problem is, he thought he is not YeongBu.
So, when he finally reconciled his memories, he realised that he is the kid and his name is YeongBu. He knew all this time, probably since he became a spirit with an unfinished business.
The 2FL isn't evil or anything. She lost her way because of her extreme desire to resurrect her child but her mother stopped her because it's against the law of the universe and the divine, and it also means she has to pay with her life (law of equivalence). In her desperation, she called upon a lost soul with an unfinish business.
That is why they are all fine with having the 2FL in the same house. She isn't completly "turned", in fact, the demons are not turning her, it is her who is violating the laws. So, she isn't an evil witch or anything. Just a prodigal daughter who can't let go of the past.
Remember the scene where she kissed the ML and threw salt? She absorbed BongSu.
Then when BongSu-FL was discovered, he kissed the ML and 2ML. BongSu wants to leave the FL's body but the FL is holding on to him, that is why the kissing isn't working.
The ML figured out how to let the FL's guard down. He talked to her in her dream world, making her wish the life she missed and she want. When her guard was down and caught up reminiscing and dreaming WhatIfs, the ML kissed her in the dream and in real life.
The ML then absorbed BongSu.
So, when FL woke up, she was confused. She didn't expect it, less so for the ML to know how to do the soulkiss absorption method.
She was quick to react but the ML stopped her, "I worked so hard to get him back". He was referring to how hard it was to get her guard down, because the FL is wise and attentive. It will never happen again if she re-absorb BongSu.
The FL isn't hiding or anything. She trapped BongSu in her body intentionally to save everyone. If she didn't, BongSu's presence will kill everyone including the host. In an earlier episode, it was mentioned that anyone near a the evil spirit eventually dies if they stay near.
The FL was secluded herself because the evil spirit is in her. Anyone close to the evil spirit will die. For the FL, it's better for her to die than let anyone else die.
He asked for her real name but she didn't tell him because he still hates her and might curse her.
As she left, she left him a hint about her name, the butterfly.
Her name is 나비 (NaBi), which is butterfly in Korean.
The real villainy were:
1. Discarding human beings (and using kidnapping to cover it up, and only requiring one parent)
2. Forced sperm and egg farming if the subject doesn't want to volunteer and they have good genes
3. Forced surrogacy
4. Selling lab babies
If all of those are removed, it appears that everything else are fine for today's audience.
1. Genetic manipulation
2. Mixing the best genes
3. Surrogacy, if say, you can't carry the baby for whatever reason
4. Donating or selling your sperm/egg
And we're only in E04.
But of course, MDL comments is not a good sample. It's minuscule and it's easy to create multiple accounts.
The real challenge are the conservatives/traditionalists who only wants the natural way. No lab babies. No genetic manipulations. No rDNA bioengineering. No surrogacy. No IVF.
I haven't seen a comment that disagrees with lab babies.
Surrogacy seems to be more on the neutral side. I guess that reflects reality too, it's illegal in many countries but legal in equally many countries. With only some without any law about it's legality or otherwise.
No issues I've read about DNA bioengineering. It appears that MDL commenters are open to this technology.