what is this all yongboo name thingy, didnt bongsu already visit the stone statue with name before, like who is…
BongSu's real name is YeongBu. He is the shorter kid.
The taller kid was BongSu's imagination that got stuck when he died, so his memories retained the imaginary friend.
BongSu the spirit, overtime, confused his identity. He thought he is the taller kid and is looking for his name so he can move on. When actually, he knew his name from the beginning. His problem is, he thought he is not YeongBu.
So, when he finally reconciled his memories, he realised that he is the kid and his name is YeongBu. He knew all this time, probably since he became a spirit with an unfinished business.
Throughout the series run there was something about this series that felt off to me. I couldn't really put my…
It appears that way, but it's actually a story about a prodical daughter. There were no antagonists and protagonists. They're just a family with a complex strings of fate.
The 2FL isn't evil or anything. She lost her way because of her extreme desire to resurrect her child but her mother stopped her because it's against the law of the universe and the divine, and it also means she has to pay with her life (law of equivalence). In her desperation, she called upon a lost soul with an unfinish business.
That is why they are all fine with having the 2FL in the same house. She isn't completly "turned", in fact, the demons are not turning her, it is her who is violating the laws. So, she isn't an evil witch or anything. Just a prodigal daughter who can't let go of the past.
Why when Seong Ah returns to her body she acts as if everything is fine but then when she falls asleep and wakes…
BongSu got trapped in FL's body because that was her plan all along.
Remember the scene where she kissed the ML and threw salt? She absorbed BongSu.
Then when BongSu-FL was discovered, he kissed the ML and 2ML. BongSu wants to leave the FL's body but the FL is holding on to him, that is why the kissing isn't working.
The ML figured out how to let the FL's guard down. He talked to her in her dream world, making her wish the life she missed and she want. When her guard was down and caught up reminiscing and dreaming WhatIfs, the ML kissed her in the dream and in real life.
The ML then absorbed BongSu.
So, when FL woke up, she was confused. She didn't expect it, less so for the ML to know how to do the soulkiss absorption method.
She was quick to react but the ML stopped her, "I worked so hard to get him back". He was referring to how hard it was to get her guard down, because the FL is wise and attentive. It will never happen again if she re-absorb BongSu.
The FL isn't hiding or anything. She trapped BongSu in her body intentionally to save everyone. If she didn't, BongSu's presence will kill everyone including the host. In an earlier episode, it was mentioned that anyone near a the evil spirit eventually dies if they stay near.
The FL was secluded herself because the evil spirit is in her. Anyone close to the evil spirit will die. For the FL, it's better for her to die than let anyone else die.
I knew there were people who buy eggs and sperm from genius people( they sell them for many) from clinics, but…
Yep.
The real villainy were: 1. Discarding human beings (and using kidnapping to cover it up, and only requiring one parent) 2. Forced sperm and egg farming if the subject doesn't want to volunteer and they have good genes 3. Forced surrogacy 4. Selling lab babies
If all of those are removed, it appears that everything else are fine for today's audience.
1. Genetic manipulation 2. Mixing the best genes 3. Surrogacy, if say, you can't carry the baby for whatever reason 4. Donating or selling your sperm/egg
Based on the comments from non-Koreans here on MDL, the main issues are selling babies and discarding them.I haven't…
I guess Koreans can breath. π
But of course, MDL comments is not a good sample. It's minuscule and it's easy to create multiple accounts.
The real challenge are the conservatives/traditionalists who only wants the natural way. No lab babies. No genetic manipulations. No rDNA bioengineering. No surrogacy. No IVF.
I wonder if the lab is also using rDNA (Recombinant DNA). It's not illegal either. There were also babies born…
Based on the comments from non-Koreans here on MDL, the main issues are selling babies and discarding them.
I haven't seen a comment that disagrees with lab babies.
Surrogacy seems to be more on the neutral side. I guess that reflects reality too, it's illegal in many countries but legal in equally many countries. With only some without any law about it's legality or otherwise.
No issues I've read about DNA bioengineering. It appears that MDL commenters are open to this technology.
I wonder if the lab is also using rDNA (Recombinant DNA). It's not illegal either. There were also babies born with rDNA "fixes" and/or "enhancements" (mainly to increase survivability, not create a super power like in The Witch and The Tyrant).
So many stuff in this show that's actually touching on scientific advances since the 70s that many people assume to be illegal. They're really engaging people to make decision if these should be illegal or if these should be regulated through ethics laws.
A good question here, are the AhYeon subjects clones (as in "genetic copy") or not? But since their DNA are changed by mixing other good DNA, then are they still clones? That certainly puts it outside of the ban on human cloning and ethics.
I think they're tackling this mainly in the Korean context: declining population of native/pure Koreans due to low birth rates.
They are exploring options and they want to know how people will react with such ideas. If it's positive, someone can draft proposals and plans. If it is negative, they can avoid a fallout.
I think it's a little reductionist to say that it's just "capitalists" who make people feel guilty for…
No worries. Similarly, I got sour because I often see it worded similarly. Definitely nothing personal.
Yeah, predicitons on population for Korea is really dark. If they don't resolve their low birth rate, Korean-blood might disappear in less than a century.
I read a news, I think last year, one plan was to invite more migrants into Korea. But I was like, "they still won't be Koreans, and that will mean eventually South Korea will be dominated by non-Koreans or half-Koreans". π Sure, they'll save the existence of the State, but it's no longer a Korean Nation. π π
True that, workaholism. To add, education. So many Koreans are moving to other countries because they don't want their children to experience the hardships they went through. And oftentimes, since their children grew elsewhere, they don't go back to Korea. π
You're right, there's an increase theme about women and children. We rarely see corruption dramas these days.
she did reject the housewarming presents in the best and polite way she could. it showed that she is a different…
Exactly!
She's aware of the potential generation and culture clash, she had to explain it to hopefully avoid misunderstanding.
And yes, the other members were excellent too because they were supportive of her stance.
Hopefully, no one will edit the clips to make it appear she was rude. People these days will do anything if something doesn't align with their personal beliefs and standards.
Hooray for YeEun! People are standing up leaving no room for detractors and anti-fans . π
Most likely both are her biological daughters. She's obsessed w/ perfection and holds herself to that standard…
That's very logical and aligns with her greediness. She aiming for 100% perfection but she definitely wants that child to be related to her, which will also elevate her status because she (supposdely) has the best genes.
But everyone else will only get the versions that are between 80% and 90% ensuring she's at the top.
Crazy. Lol. I wouldn't even think of doing it that way. If my genes are not good enough, I'll take someone else's. But, wow, she wants to ensure her genes is in that perfect child. The implications are so great even if the operation is discovered, no one would suspect her daughter is a product of gene manipulation.
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The taller kid was BongSu's imagination that got stuck when he died, so his memories retained the imaginary friend.
BongSu the spirit, overtime, confused his identity. He thought he is the taller kid and is looking for his name so he can move on. When actually, he knew his name from the beginning. His problem is, he thought he is not YeongBu.
So, when he finally reconciled his memories, he realised that he is the kid and his name is YeongBu. He knew all this time, probably since he became a spirit with an unfinished business.
The 2FL isn't evil or anything. She lost her way because of her extreme desire to resurrect her child but her mother stopped her because it's against the law of the universe and the divine, and it also means she has to pay with her life (law of equivalence). In her desperation, she called upon a lost soul with an unfinish business.
That is why they are all fine with having the 2FL in the same house. She isn't completly "turned", in fact, the demons are not turning her, it is her who is violating the laws. So, she isn't an evil witch or anything. Just a prodigal daughter who can't let go of the past.
Remember the scene where she kissed the ML and threw salt? She absorbed BongSu.
Then when BongSu-FL was discovered, he kissed the ML and 2ML. BongSu wants to leave the FL's body but the FL is holding on to him, that is why the kissing isn't working.
The ML figured out how to let the FL's guard down. He talked to her in her dream world, making her wish the life she missed and she want. When her guard was down and caught up reminiscing and dreaming WhatIfs, the ML kissed her in the dream and in real life.
The ML then absorbed BongSu.
So, when FL woke up, she was confused. She didn't expect it, less so for the ML to know how to do the soulkiss absorption method.
She was quick to react but the ML stopped her, "I worked so hard to get him back". He was referring to how hard it was to get her guard down, because the FL is wise and attentive. It will never happen again if she re-absorb BongSu.
The FL isn't hiding or anything. She trapped BongSu in her body intentionally to save everyone. If she didn't, BongSu's presence will kill everyone including the host. In an earlier episode, it was mentioned that anyone near a the evil spirit eventually dies if they stay near.
The FL was secluded herself because the evil spirit is in her. Anyone close to the evil spirit will die. For the FL, it's better for her to die than let anyone else die.
He asked for her real name but she didn't tell him because he still hates her and might curse her.
As she left, she left him a hint about her name, the butterfly.
Her name is λλΉ (NaBi), which is butterfly in Korean.
The real villainy were:
1. Discarding human beings (and using kidnapping to cover it up, and only requiring one parent)
2. Forced sperm and egg farming if the subject doesn't want to volunteer and they have good genes
3. Forced surrogacy
4. Selling lab babies
If all of those are removed, it appears that everything else are fine for today's audience.
1. Genetic manipulation
2. Mixing the best genes
3. Surrogacy, if say, you can't carry the baby for whatever reason
4. Donating or selling your sperm/egg
And we're only in E04.
But of course, MDL comments is not a good sample. It's minuscule and it's easy to create multiple accounts.
The real challenge are the conservatives/traditionalists who only wants the natural way. No lab babies. No genetic manipulations. No rDNA bioengineering. No surrogacy. No IVF.
I haven't seen a comment that disagrees with lab babies.
Surrogacy seems to be more on the neutral side. I guess that reflects reality too, it's illegal in many countries but legal in equally many countries. With only some without any law about it's legality or otherwise.
No issues I've read about DNA bioengineering. It appears that MDL commenters are open to this technology.
So many stuff in this show that's actually touching on scientific advances since the 70s that many people assume to be illegal. They're really engaging people to make decision if these should be illegal or if these should be regulated through ethics laws.
A good question here, are the AhYeon subjects clones (as in "genetic copy") or not? But since their DNA are changed by mixing other good DNA, then are they still clones? That certainly puts it outside of the ban on human cloning and ethics.
I think they're tackling this mainly in the Korean context: declining population of native/pure Koreans due to low birth rates.
They are exploring options and they want to know how people will react with such ideas. If it's positive, someone can draft proposals and plans. If it is negative, they can avoid a fallout.
Yeah, predicitons on population for Korea is really dark. If they don't resolve their low birth rate, Korean-blood might disappear in less than a century.
I read a news, I think last year, one plan was to invite more migrants into Korea. But I was like, "they still won't be Koreans, and that will mean eventually South Korea will be dominated by non-Koreans or half-Koreans". π Sure, they'll save the existence of the State, but it's no longer a Korean Nation. π π
True that, workaholism. To add, education. So many Koreans are moving to other countries because they don't want their children to experience the hardships they went through. And oftentimes, since their children grew elsewhere, they don't go back to Korea. π
You're right, there's an increase theme about women and children. We rarely see corruption dramas these days.
She's aware of the potential generation and culture clash, she had to explain it to hopefully avoid misunderstanding.
And yes, the other members were excellent too because they were supportive of her stance.
Hopefully, no one will edit the clips to make it appear she was rude. People these days will do anything if something doesn't align with their personal beliefs and standards.
Hooray for YeEun! People are standing up leaving no room for detractors and anti-fans . π
Indeed, when it's reversed, suddenly it's a huge issue and "disgusting".
Even the FL, there were scenes where the actor's age (34) shines more than the character's early to mid 20s.
But everyone else will only get the versions that are between 80% and 90% ensuring she's at the top.
Crazy. Lol. I wouldn't even think of doing it that way. If my genes are not good enough, I'll take someone else's. But, wow, she wants to ensure her genes is in that perfect child. The implications are so great even if the operation is discovered, no one would suspect her daughter is a product of gene manipulation.