I wonder if the lab is also using rDNA (Recombinant DNA). It's not illegal either. There were also babies born with rDNA "fixes" and/or "enhancements" (mainly to increase survivability, not create a super power like in The Witch and The Tyrant).
So many stuff in this show that's actually touching on scientific advances since the 70s that many people assume to be illegal. They're really engaging people to make decision if these should be illegal or if these should be regulated through ethics laws.
A good question here, are the AhYeon subjects clones (as in "genetic copy") or not? But since their DNA are changed by mixing other good DNA, then are they still clones? That certainly puts it outside of the ban on human cloning and ethics.
I think they're tackling this mainly in the Korean context: declining population of native/pure Koreans due to low birth rates.
They are exploring options and they want to know how people will react with such ideas. If it's positive, someone can draft proposals and plans. If it is negative, they can avoid a fallout.
I think it's a little reductionist to say that it's just "capitalists" who make people feel guilty for…
No worries. Similarly, I got sour because I often see it worded similarly. Definitely nothing personal.
Yeah, predicitons on population for Korea is really dark. If they don't resolve their low birth rate, Korean-blood might disappear in less than a century.
I read a news, I think last year, one plan was to invite more migrants into Korea. But I was like, "they still won't be Koreans, and that will mean eventually South Korea will be dominated by non-Koreans or half-Koreans". π Sure, they'll save the existence of the State, but it's no longer a Korean Nation. π π
True that, workaholism. To add, education. So many Koreans are moving to other countries because they don't want their children to experience the hardships they went through. And oftentimes, since their children grew elsewhere, they don't go back to Korea. π
You're right, there's an increase theme about women and children. We rarely see corruption dramas these days.
she did reject the housewarming presents in the best and polite way she could. it showed that she is a different…
Exactly!
She's aware of the potential generation and culture clash, she had to explain it to hopefully avoid misunderstanding.
And yes, the other members were excellent too because they were supportive of her stance.
Hopefully, no one will edit the clips to make it appear she was rude. People these days will do anything if something doesn't align with their personal beliefs and standards.
Hooray for YeEun! People are standing up leaving no room for detractors and anti-fans . π
Most likely both are her biological daughters. She's obsessed w/ perfection and holds herself to that standard…
That's very logical and aligns with her greediness. She aiming for 100% perfection but she definitely wants that child to be related to her, which will also elevate her status because she (supposdely) has the best genes.
But everyone else will only get the versions that are between 80% and 90% ensuring she's at the top.
Crazy. Lol. I wouldn't even think of doing it that way. If my genes are not good enough, I'll take someone else's. But, wow, she wants to ensure her genes is in that perfect child. The implications are so great even if the operation is discovered, no one would suspect her daughter is a product of gene manipulation.
In one scene, she mentioned collecting the Chairmanβs sperm, and I guess she also had her own oocytes retrieved.…
Yeah, the lab is crazy.
After what you've said, could it be that all the "kids" were based on AhYeon? She mixes other genes to make them more perfect? And once she gets 100%, she'll keep that one for herself?
2. They didn't expect the magnitude of the situation and I reckon seeing it firsthand heightened their emotions.…
> They didn't expect the magnitude of the situation and I reckon seeing it firsthand heightened their emotions. I don't know about others but the concept of baby farming is disgusting.
Ahh, so it's more like the sudden influx of reality, making it no longer undeniable, overwhelmed the mind and body which led to various mix of biological reaction resulting in throwing up?
Like, temporarily, the mind and body was in chaos the only thing left to regain composure is, in this particular case, to throw up?
That makes sense. For other people, they black out and collapse due to facing an undeniable truth that they originally doubted. In the FL's case it's a different reaction.
Thank you for sharing! ππ½ I deeply appreciate taking the time to do so, it's very helpful. ππ½
puking is a normal thing when you feel disgusted or overwhelmed with emotions. i imagine if i were in her position,…
> puking is a normal thing when you feel disgusted or overwhelmed with emotions. i imagine if i were in her position, even though i already know the act exists, seeing it in real life would make me throw up.
I see, that's interesting to know and a new one for me. It's just so hard to understand the logical connection. It's not like "tears of joy", it appears contradictory but it can actually be explained logically (and thus invalidate it's categorization as "an idiom" since it's actually literal).
Now this is something new to unravel logically. There has to be a logical connection why the outward reaction is throwing up. Hmmβ¦ Anyway, I deeply appreciate the knowledge you've shared! ππ½ It's a new thing to ponder upon for me. ππ½
This part is confusing to me. Might be the older Ah-Hyeon is her biological daughter, whoβs the father?Younger…
Good question!
Maybe the older AhYeon is IVF too, her own egg but she picked a "good" sperm/DNA donor.
While the younger AhYeon, the same?
But the way she didn't flinch at using the younger AhYeon as a surrogate mother makes it all suspicious. Maybe she realized the "defect" with the older AhYeon is her own DNA? So, younger AhYeon is not biologically related to her? Hence she was totally fine with using her because she's only a product?
I think they are both adopted. Or I wasn't paying attention? You mean she kicked out her biological daughter?…
Yep. When she learned that AYeon is still alive, she said, paraphrasing:
"She must be more than 20 now." "I wonder if she looks like me." (Which hints that they're biologically related.)
Then later in the epilogue flashback, they hinted why her mother kicked her out, she's always number 2.
We also learned in the same episode that the new AYeon is only 14 years old. So, I'm wondering if she gave the same name? And if the second AYeon is also her biological daughter like the older AYeon?
I think it's a little reductionist to say that it's just "capitalists" who make people feel guilty for…
> My dad is also a small business owner, and in some sense I suppose he would identify as a capitalist, but he hasn't done this in the slightest.
Of course "not all are", I think that's a given. π
In any case, I apologize. I came from a generation (GenXennial) where we don't have to spell out "not everyone", it's already understood.
To rephrase, "it is more common in the capitalist system even though there are laws protecting the workers".
> It's also the culture that in order for a women to be a good employee she has to be able to do exactly what a man can do in the exactly the same way he can do it.
In Korea, and probably a few other countries (I'll make a guess, it's the same in Japan). Which brings us back to my point why I'm excited for next week's episodes: how are they going to handle it knowing that they'll be attacking a "social norm"? And potentially spark a renewed fight to protect the rights of the workers?
Because, let's face it, South Korea has one of the worse workers' rights in the world by law and by enforcement. It isn't just about women, it's all workers, be it local or foreigner in Korea.
As I've said, that's what they always depict in Korean drama, and this is the first drama where they brought up workers' right, in this particular case, a pregnant woman.
All I'm saying is, this is crucial and a risky move. How brave are the writers and directors in how they'll handle it? Are they going to water it down so as not to offend anyone? Or, are they going to push hard and threaten her superior for violating the labour law?
Can people just stop bitching about the age gap? Why are you acting as if the female leads are some 50+ year old…
It's actually MDL only based on my observation.
There's a Pdrama adaptation of "It's Okay To Not Be Okay" and people are complaining hard about the age gap too. Guess what? Only in MDL. I searched FB, X, and other places, no one is complaining. π€£π€£π€£
I think MDL is the way it is because of lack of moderation and it is far too easy to create multiple accounts. So, I'm thinking, accounts who often complains about the silliest stuff are probably only 10 people with 100 accounts each.
So many stuff in this show that's actually touching on scientific advances since the 70s that many people assume to be illegal. They're really engaging people to make decision if these should be illegal or if these should be regulated through ethics laws.
A good question here, are the AhYeon subjects clones (as in "genetic copy") or not? But since their DNA are changed by mixing other good DNA, then are they still clones? That certainly puts it outside of the ban on human cloning and ethics.
I think they're tackling this mainly in the Korean context: declining population of native/pure Koreans due to low birth rates.
They are exploring options and they want to know how people will react with such ideas. If it's positive, someone can draft proposals and plans. If it is negative, they can avoid a fallout.
Yeah, predicitons on population for Korea is really dark. If they don't resolve their low birth rate, Korean-blood might disappear in less than a century.
I read a news, I think last year, one plan was to invite more migrants into Korea. But I was like, "they still won't be Koreans, and that will mean eventually South Korea will be dominated by non-Koreans or half-Koreans". π Sure, they'll save the existence of the State, but it's no longer a Korean Nation. π π
True that, workaholism. To add, education. So many Koreans are moving to other countries because they don't want their children to experience the hardships they went through. And oftentimes, since their children grew elsewhere, they don't go back to Korea. π
You're right, there's an increase theme about women and children. We rarely see corruption dramas these days.
She's aware of the potential generation and culture clash, she had to explain it to hopefully avoid misunderstanding.
And yes, the other members were excellent too because they were supportive of her stance.
Hopefully, no one will edit the clips to make it appear she was rude. People these days will do anything if something doesn't align with their personal beliefs and standards.
Hooray for YeEun! People are standing up leaving no room for detractors and anti-fans . π
Indeed, when it's reversed, suddenly it's a huge issue and "disgusting".
Even the FL, there were scenes where the actor's age (34) shines more than the character's early to mid 20s.
But everyone else will only get the versions that are between 80% and 90% ensuring she's at the top.
Crazy. Lol. I wouldn't even think of doing it that way. If my genes are not good enough, I'll take someone else's. But, wow, she wants to ensure her genes is in that perfect child. The implications are so great even if the operation is discovered, no one would suspect her daughter is a product of gene manipulation.
After what you've said, could it be that all the "kids" were based on AhYeon? She mixes other genes to make them more perfect? And once she gets 100%, she'll keep that one for herself?
IIRC, there's even a male version of AhYeon. π«¨
Ahh, so it's more like the sudden influx of reality, making it no longer undeniable, overwhelmed the mind and body which led to various mix of biological reaction resulting in throwing up?
Like, temporarily, the mind and body was in chaos the only thing left to regain composure is, in this particular case, to throw up?
That makes sense. For other people, they black out and collapse due to facing an undeniable truth that they originally doubted. In the FL's case it's a different reaction.
Thank you for sharing! ππ½ I deeply appreciate taking the time to do so, it's very helpful. ππ½
I see, that's interesting to know and a new one for me. It's just so hard to understand the logical connection. It's not like "tears of joy", it appears contradictory but it can actually be explained logically (and thus invalidate it's categorization as "an idiom" since it's actually literal).
Now this is something new to unravel logically. There has to be a logical connection why the outward reaction is throwing up. Hmmβ¦ Anyway, I deeply appreciate the knowledge you've shared! ππ½ It's a new thing to ponder upon for me. ππ½
Maybe the older AhYeon is IVF too, her own egg but she picked a "good" sperm/DNA donor.
While the younger AhYeon, the same?
But the way she didn't flinch at using the younger AhYeon as a surrogate mother makes it all suspicious. Maybe she realized the "defect" with the older AhYeon is her own DNA? So, younger AhYeon is not biologically related to her? Hence she was totally fine with using her because she's only a product?
"She must be more than 20 now."
"I wonder if she looks like me." (Which hints that they're biologically related.)
Then later in the epilogue flashback, they hinted why her mother kicked her out, she's always number 2.
We also learned in the same episode that the new AYeon is only 14 years old. So, I'm wondering if she gave the same name? And if the second AYeon is also her biological daughter like the older AYeon?
Of course "not all are", I think that's a given. π
In any case, I apologize. I came from a generation (GenXennial) where we don't have to spell out "not everyone", it's already understood.
To rephrase, "it is more common in the capitalist system even though there are laws protecting the workers".
> It's also the culture that in order for a women to be a good employee she has to be able to do exactly what a man can do in the exactly the same way he can do it.
In Korea, and probably a few other countries (I'll make a guess, it's the same in Japan). Which brings us back to my point why I'm excited for next week's episodes: how are they going to handle it knowing that they'll be attacking a "social norm"? And potentially spark a renewed fight to protect the rights of the workers?
Because, let's face it, South Korea has one of the worse workers' rights in the world by law and by enforcement. It isn't just about women, it's all workers, be it local or foreigner in Korea.
As I've said, that's what they always depict in Korean drama, and this is the first drama where they brought up workers' right, in this particular case, a pregnant woman.
All I'm saying is, this is crucial and a risky move. How brave are the writers and directors in how they'll handle it? Are they going to water it down so as not to offend anyone? Or, are they going to push hard and threaten her superior for violating the labour law?
There's a Pdrama adaptation of "It's Okay To Not Be Okay" and people are complaining hard about the age gap too. Guess what? Only in MDL. I searched FB, X, and other places, no one is complaining. π€£π€£π€£
I think MDL is the way it is because of lack of moderation and it is far too easy to create multiple accounts. So, I'm thinking, accounts who often complains about the silliest stuff are probably only 10 people with 100 accounts each.