KJK offered her for exercise to lose weight, but she refused. So, she probably drastically cutting food. I just…
Yeah, it was too fast and drastic. I wonder if she's used to 3+ days fasting. Maybe she was doing it on a weekly basis and then pushed it before that episode's filming?
Still, it's crazy, hehe. Hmm… maybe certain fruits and remained on that diet for a week?
I admire her for having such intense control too. She loves eating but to lose that much in a week, she showed she has full mental control over her eating desires. She is strong mentally. Truly amazing.
First off, ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE SHOW! The acting for most of them is amazing. Now, on to my show complaints. There…
Re: Ozone. It's good.
I'll just quote what I replied in another thread:
> there's nothing about Ozone that was a mixture of or a mismatched of, various autistic persons. > > As we autistics always say, no two autistics are the same and there is no single or dominant autistic type/personality. > > Ozone is simply another autistic person with a unique set of autistic traits and quirks, each with unique "settings" (hyper and hypo). That is who Ozone is. And the writers seem to have grasp of it, so that means they did their due diligence.
As I've said in an Arirang TV news segment a few years back, "Autism is a three-dimensional spectrum".
Think of autism as a soundboard or sound mixer. * Each knob is an autistic trait * Each slide is an autistic quirk * Both the knobs and sliders start at 0. This is what allistics are. * Autistic persons are either hyper (positive number) or hypo (negative number) knob and slide * However, not every knob (trait) and slider (quirk) has a "setting", it could very well be 0!
Now imagine that soundboard to be the professional type, which is huge (usually need 3 people to move it; or 2 if both are huge). You'll have hundreds, if not thousands of possible variations.
That's what it means by "autism is a three-dimensional spectrum".
In other words, Ozone is simply an autistic person with a unique combination of traits and quirks, and each of those trait and quirk are either hyper or hypo.
If Ozone is a mixture of, or a mismatch of, or all over the place, that's no different from telling an autistic person "You don't look like autistic, you're all over the place." To which we autistics reply with either "Why? How do autistics look like" or "You don't look allistic, you're all over the place". 😝 (Seriously, no kidding.)
I'd love to know more about your views on how Ozone is written. What is, in your opinion, done well and what is…
To conclude, there's nothing about Ozone that was a mixture of or a mismatched of, various autistic persons.
As we autistics always say, no two autistics are the same and there is no single or dominant autistic type/personality.
Ozone is simply another autistic person with a unique set of autistic traits and quirks, each with unique "settings" (hyper and hypo). That is who Ozone is. And the writers seem to have grasp of it, so that means they did their due diligence.
I'd love to know more about your views on how Ozone is written. What is, in your opinion, done well and what is…
Still with №5.
The doctor did explain that autistic people can be hypersensitive. One such, which is common amongst us Autistics, is hypersensitivity to soundwaves and vibrations.
We do hear and feel things that most Allistics don't.
I can hear water dripping even though it's on the other room or a floor away.
I can hear a wallclock ticking that's on the other end of the living room or in the kitchen/dining area.
I'm often the first the feel if there's an earthquake even if it's mild, at ground level at that.
I can see patterns to things.
I get distracted by the little and/or insignificant things around when outside that most don't notice, see, or care about.
I need a lot of pillows to sleep properly. Otherwise, I keep on waking up.
There are certain clothes I hate to wear because I hate how it feels on skin.
I hate spontaneous hugs. I need to be mentally prepared for it.
Okay, as usual I got carried away.
You get the point. The doctor explained it and it is true. They simply exercised their literary freedom and added that maybe because Ozone is hypersensitive, he can hear the stars "talking".
And remember it is science-fiction so what's wrong with stars "talking"?
I'd love to know more about your views on how Ozone is written. What is, in your opinion, done well and what is…
5. Ozone hearing the stars talking.
Give them that. They're allowed to exercise literary freedom, it is after all, _fiction_, science-fiction at that.
But granted, let's say they are not allowed to have literary freedom for whatever reason.
The Autism Spectrum is known to overlap with many other neurological disorders/conditions. In other words, Ozone may not be simply autistic, as someone else said above, could be schizophrenic too.
So, literary freedom or not, it's still within the realm of realism as far as knowledge about neurological disorders/conditions and Autism Spectrum are concerned.
I'd love to know more about your views on how Ozone is written. What is, in your opinion, done well and what is…
4. The doctor did use the term "autistic", you can actually hear it said even by other characters. Not definding them, but it clearly shows the writer did their due diligence.
In most other countries, you'll never hear "autistic", it is always "with autism".
For most autistics and many of our allies, we highly prefer "Autistic" and avoid "with autism" as much as possible.
I'd love to know more about your views on how Ozone is written. What is, in your opinion, done well and what is…
3. The autism depicted through Ozone is actually very close to the idea of Autism Spectrum in latest version of DSM and most especially ICD.
This is why "high-functioning" and "Low-functioning" were dropped because autism cannot be defined through that.
Some said Ozone was a mixture of various autism. This thinking comes from the old and obsolete understanding of autism. There is "mixture of various autism".
Think of Autism as a soundboard / soundmixer.
Every knob and every slider represents one particular trait and one particular quirk various autistic persons are known to possess (including those not identified yet).
Each knob and slider are set to 0.
Autistic A have traits Knob 1, knob 2, knob 3 set to "positive numbers" (hyper) and have quirks Slider A, Slider B, Slider C set to "negative numbers" (hypo).
Autistic B also have Knob 1 but in the negative. knob 3 in the positive, Knob at 0. And quirks Slider B in the positive but Slider A and Slider C set to 0.
* Do we say that Autistic A is "more autistic"? No. * Do we say that Autistic B is a "mixture of various Autistics and has no personality"? No.
Both of them are Autistic persons. Not because Autistic B doesn't show certain traits and quirks does it make them "less autistic". Or, putting it another way, not because Autistic B appears to have a mixture of various autistic persons does it make them "unrealistic" or "fiction"-only.
Autistic B do exist, and many of them are undiagnosed or are not publicly sharing that they are autistic.
Goieg back to Ozone, yes, it depicts how DSM and ICD sees the Autism Spectrum.
And as I've said in an Arirang TV news segment a few years back, "Autism is a three-dimensional spectrum". To be exact, "four-dimensional" but I wanted to keep it easier to understand on the broadcast.
I autistic myself. 1. I have traits and quirks that I share with other autistic persons. 2. But I also have traits and quirks that I don't have but other autistics have. 3. And those that I have, I am either too hyper, mid hyper, low hyper, low hypo, mild hypo, too hypo …which can be similar and different with other autistics I share the same traits and quirks.
Does it make me, or others, "less autistic"? Or, a "mixture of various autism"?
I'd love to know more about your views on how Ozone is written. What is, in your opinion, done well and what is…
This is a reply for all the above comments.
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1. "Asperger's Syndrome" and all its variations are considered offensive regardless of how one use it. If one wants to keep using it, use it privately. Now I'm not one to care about it, however, if others saw/heard it, they will probably call people out. For one, Asperger was well-known to be a Nazi himself. Secondly, his study was for Nazi purposes, not to help Autistic kids. Of course, his supporters are denying it.
But again, I personally do not care. Just be careful when using it publicly.
2. "Aspergers" isn't on the "extended Autism Spectrum". There is no "extended Autism Spectrum" in the first place, there is only "The Autism Spectrum".
3. Yes, Asperger's Syndrome is considered "high-functioning autism" in the precious DSM. But it borders what was used to be called "classic autism".
If we are going to draw a simple line from left-to-right, "classic autism" is on the left side, bordering it to the right was "Aspergers", then next to Aspergers to the right is what was collectively called "PDD-NOS" (which is also used on other spectrums).
Aspergers and PDD-NOS are both high-functioning. Aspergers is easily identifiable, if you know what you are looking for, while PDD-NOS autism is very very hard to distinguish from other diagnoses.
Also, Aspergers was considered "mild", while PDD-NOS "light", and classic autism "full" / full-blown.
Again that's the old DSM.
Today, PDD-NOS is out of the Autism Spectrum. The less "severe" Aspergers is "Level 1 Autism". The "mild" Aspergers is between "Level 1" and "Level 2" while classic autism is between "Level 2" and "Level 3", and the entire Level 3 and higher simply grouped as Level 3.
It is not exact but it gives you an idea. So, "high-functioning" is Level 1 to Level 2.5. "Low-functioning" is Level 2.5 to Level 3.
Aspergers, high-functioning, Low-functioning, are no longer used. It's just Autism Spectrum.
Also, Level 1, 2, 3 autism is frowned upon by most of us Autistics, including many Allistic allies. Again, it's just the Autism Spectrum.
In the UK and other countries, it's "Autism Spectrum Condition"; while in countries that use DSM, it's "Autism Spectrum Disorder". We just use "Autism Spectrum", it is up to the autistic person if they consider their experience as a disorder or otherwise.
I understood her. It can be so annoying if it’s obvious one’s colleague is clearly being favoured more than…
Exactly. Even if she is not an "AI Human" (as the official Korean website describes her to be), it is indeed unfair when you're doing your best and the favoured wants to quit and being meh about their job.
Anyone would, it's just a matter of how far we'll go.
Also, it showed that Sabi is like every human being. For me it was good. She may be different but she still is a human being.
i dont believe she was believing just the chef here, she still had doubts because what shes saw with her own eyes.…
I did say at the very beginning that it is _understandable_ to doubt Mr. Homeless.
However, what is not is believing every word that came out of the Chef as if he was god. Any person who conveniently confirms our doubt on another is a suspicious one. They are using your own doubt to manipulate you.
It's why many people fall for scams. Scammers plant seeds of doubt by having planted people claim that it is real and not a scam.
That's what the Chef did. And the FL simply believed every single word he said because it aligned with her doubts against Mr. Homeless. When she should've started to doubt the Chef because of the fact.
If she was already doubting the Chef, she wouldn't end up signing the Memorandum of Agreement for the sales of their establishment and land. But she did, because she 100% trusted the Chef.
Anyone who conveniently tells you what you want to here are people you should be careful of. 😉 Either they want something from you, using you, or simply doesn't care.
KJK and SJH, I've been suspecting them since their footbalu cup last year. They're too close. SJH even jumped to KJK's arms and hugged him tight, while holding on to him with her legs too, like they're a real couple. I was thinking it was a natural reaction.
A year later, "honey". Did SJH slip, again?
Okay, maybe the are not dating secretly, fine. Here in the Philippines we have a stage called "Mutual Understanding" or "M.U." Two people are not officially a couple but at the same time more than best friends. They both know it, they just chose not to act on it yet (for whatever reason).
How did Yeeun do it? They only had 1 week gap per taping between episodes (and 1 week for editing so two weeks passed since it was filmed), so Yeeun lost weight in 7 days? O_O Isn't it risky to lose that much?
Then in the preview for next week's episode, she's slowly gaining weight again. She has a slow metabolism, which only makes it even more unbelievable to lose that much in a week.
I have a fast metabolism and yet it's hard to lose weight (ignoring other factors of course).
What do you mean by anti-fan comments? If they were straight on hate and harrasment then sure. But if someone…
Yes. It has nothing to do with the show. They can air their hatred in proper platforms and channels. Not disturb the people who only wants to discuss the story and the fictional characters.
Invading communities to spam hate/anti-fan sentiments is not acceptable. If you support it then that's no different in saying that it is acceptable to disrupt public roads and transportations to air one's grievances against their company. It is not and never will be. If you have issues with your company, bring it at the proper place, in the same way that anti-fan/hate comments should be done in the proper channels or platforms.
My understanding of cameo is any renowned actor or celebrity playing a small role. Stan Lee had cameo roles in…
But his role wasn't "small". You can't compare him having 100% airtime in E01 for his character, and 98% in E02, and flashbacks in E03 onwards with Stan Lee who only got a few seconds airtime per movie, and often without a lenghty dialogue.
So, by your definition, it wasn't a cameo, he is a "guest". 😉
no, cameo is when they showed as they self or a character that exists in other history.
What I said, he did not show as himself so it was not a."cameo". He also did not play a character as part of "history". He got 100% airtime for his role in E01 and 98% in E02.
And if you compare that to the other casts listed as a "guest" in this show and other shows, they got far less airtime and less significant roles yet they're listed as a "guest" and not a "cameo".
That is definitely not what a cameo means. A cameo is a well known actor playing a small but noticeable part in…
Then I guess someone should correct the other instances of listed casts as a "guest" to be as a "cameo".
Also, his character is "small"? How come? He got a high quality airtime and playing an.important character and it's a "cameo" but those who far less airtime and roles were listed as "guests"?
Think about it. By your own definition, he is a "guest" not a."cameo". 😉
Still, it's crazy, hehe. Hmm… maybe certain fruits and remained on that diet for a week?
I admire her for having such intense control too. She loves eating but to lose that much in a week, she showed she has full mental control over her eating desires. She is strong mentally. Truly amazing.
I'll just quote what I replied in another thread:
> there's nothing about Ozone that was a mixture of or a mismatched of, various autistic persons.
>
> As we autistics always say, no two autistics are the same and there is no single or dominant autistic type/personality.
>
> Ozone is simply another autistic person with a unique set of autistic traits and quirks, each with unique "settings" (hyper and hypo). That is who Ozone is. And the writers seem to have grasp of it, so that means they did their due diligence.
As I've said in an Arirang TV news segment a few years back, "Autism is a three-dimensional spectrum".
Think of autism as a soundboard or sound mixer.
* Each knob is an autistic trait
* Each slide is an autistic quirk
* Both the knobs and sliders start at 0. This is what allistics are.
* Autistic persons are either hyper (positive number) or hypo (negative number) knob and slide
* However, not every knob (trait) and slider (quirk) has a "setting", it could very well be 0!
Now imagine that soundboard to be the professional type, which is huge (usually need 3 people to move it; or 2 if both are huge). You'll have hundreds, if not thousands of possible variations.
That's what it means by "autism is a three-dimensional spectrum".
In other words, Ozone is simply an autistic person with a unique combination of traits and quirks, and each of those trait and quirk are either hyper or hypo.
If Ozone is a mixture of, or a mismatch of, or all over the place, that's no different from telling an autistic person "You don't look like autistic, you're all over the place." To which we autistics reply with either "Why? How do autistics look like" or "You don't look allistic, you're all over the place". 😝 (Seriously, no kidding.)
As we autistics always say, no two autistics are the same and there is no single or dominant autistic type/personality.
Ozone is simply another autistic person with a unique set of autistic traits and quirks, each with unique "settings" (hyper and hypo). That is who Ozone is. And the writers seem to have grasp of it, so that means they did their due diligence.
The doctor did explain that autistic people can be hypersensitive. One such, which is common amongst us Autistics, is hypersensitivity to soundwaves and vibrations.
We do hear and feel things that most Allistics don't.
I can hear water dripping even though it's on the other room or a floor away.
I can hear a wallclock ticking that's on the other end of the living room or in the kitchen/dining area.
I'm often the first the feel if there's an earthquake even if it's mild, at ground level at that.
I can see patterns to things.
I get distracted by the little and/or insignificant things around when outside that most don't notice, see, or care about.
I need a lot of pillows to sleep properly. Otherwise, I keep on waking up.
There are certain clothes I hate to wear because I hate how it feels on skin.
I hate spontaneous hugs. I need to be mentally prepared for it.
Okay, as usual I got carried away.
You get the point. The doctor explained it and it is true. They simply exercised their literary freedom and added that maybe because Ozone is hypersensitive, he can hear the stars "talking".
And remember it is science-fiction so what's wrong with stars "talking"?
Give them that. They're allowed to exercise literary freedom, it is after all, _fiction_, science-fiction at that.
But granted, let's say they are not allowed to have literary freedom for whatever reason.
The Autism Spectrum is known to overlap with many other neurological disorders/conditions. In other words, Ozone may not be simply autistic, as someone else said above, could be schizophrenic too.
So, literary freedom or not, it's still within the realm of realism as far as knowledge about neurological disorders/conditions and Autism Spectrum are concerned.
In most other countries, you'll never hear "autistic", it is always "with autism".
For most autistics and many of our allies, we highly prefer "Autistic" and avoid "with autism" as much as possible.
This is why "high-functioning" and "Low-functioning" were dropped because autism cannot be defined through that.
Some said Ozone was a mixture of various autism. This thinking comes from the old and obsolete understanding of autism. There is "mixture of various autism".
Think of Autism as a soundboard / soundmixer.
Every knob and every slider represents one particular trait and one particular quirk various autistic persons are known to possess (including those not identified yet).
Each knob and slider are set to 0.
Autistic A have traits Knob 1, knob 2, knob 3 set to "positive numbers" (hyper) and have quirks Slider A, Slider B, Slider C set to "negative numbers" (hypo).
Autistic B also have Knob 1 but in the negative. knob 3 in the positive, Knob at 0. And quirks Slider B in the positive but Slider A and Slider C set to 0.
* Do we say that Autistic A is "more autistic"? No.
* Do we say that Autistic B is a "mixture of various Autistics and has no personality"? No.
Both of them are Autistic persons. Not because Autistic B doesn't show certain traits and quirks does it make them "less autistic". Or, putting it another way, not because Autistic B appears to have a mixture of various autistic persons does it make them "unrealistic" or "fiction"-only.
Autistic B do exist, and many of them are undiagnosed or are not publicly sharing that they are autistic.
Goieg back to Ozone, yes, it depicts how DSM and ICD sees the Autism Spectrum.
And as I've said in an Arirang TV news segment a few years back, "Autism is a three-dimensional spectrum". To be exact, "four-dimensional" but I wanted to keep it easier to understand on the broadcast.
I autistic myself.
1. I have traits and quirks that I share with other autistic persons.
2. But I also have traits and quirks that I don't have but other autistics have.
3. And those that I have, I am either too hyper, mid hyper, low hyper, low hypo, mild hypo, too hypo …which can be similar and different with other autistics I share the same traits and quirks.
Does it make me, or others, "less autistic"? Or, a "mixture of various autism"?
No.
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1. "Asperger's Syndrome" and all its variations are considered offensive regardless of how one use it. If one wants to keep using it, use it privately. Now I'm not one to care about it, however, if others saw/heard it, they will probably call people out. For one, Asperger was well-known to be a Nazi himself. Secondly, his study was for Nazi purposes, not to help Autistic kids. Of course, his supporters are denying it.
But again, I personally do not care. Just be careful when using it publicly.
2. "Aspergers" isn't on the "extended Autism Spectrum". There is no "extended Autism Spectrum" in the first place, there is only "The Autism Spectrum".
3. Yes, Asperger's Syndrome is considered "high-functioning autism" in the precious DSM. But it borders what was used to be called "classic autism".
If we are going to draw a simple line from left-to-right, "classic autism" is on the left side, bordering it to the right was "Aspergers", then next to Aspergers to the right is what was collectively called "PDD-NOS" (which is also used on other spectrums).
Aspergers and PDD-NOS are both high-functioning. Aspergers is easily identifiable, if you know what you are looking for, while PDD-NOS autism is very very hard to distinguish from other diagnoses.
Also, Aspergers was considered "mild", while PDD-NOS "light", and classic autism "full" / full-blown.
Again that's the old DSM.
Today, PDD-NOS is out of the Autism Spectrum. The less "severe" Aspergers is "Level 1 Autism". The "mild" Aspergers is between "Level 1" and "Level 2" while classic autism is between "Level 2" and "Level 3", and the entire Level 3 and higher simply grouped as Level 3.
It is not exact but it gives you an idea. So, "high-functioning" is Level 1 to Level 2.5. "Low-functioning" is Level 2.5 to Level 3.
Aspergers, high-functioning, Low-functioning, are no longer used. It's just Autism Spectrum.
Also, Level 1, 2, 3 autism is frowned upon by most of us Autistics, including many Allistic allies. Again, it's just the Autism Spectrum.
In the UK and other countries, it's "Autism Spectrum Condition"; while in countries that use DSM, it's "Autism Spectrum Disorder". We just use "Autism Spectrum", it is up to the autistic person if they consider their experience as a disorder or otherwise.
Anyone would, it's just a matter of how far we'll go.
Also, it showed that Sabi is like every human being. For me it was good. She may be different but she still is a human being.
But, sadly, that's how they paint her to be, an "AI Human" (even in the official Korean description).
However, what is not is believing every word that came out of the Chef as if he was god. Any person who conveniently confirms our doubt on another is a suspicious one. They are using your own doubt to manipulate you.
It's why many people fall for scams. Scammers plant seeds of doubt by having planted people claim that it is real and not a scam.
That's what the Chef did. And the FL simply believed every single word he said because it aligned with her doubts against Mr. Homeless. When she should've started to doubt the Chef because of the fact.
If she was already doubting the Chef, she wouldn't end up signing the Memorandum of Agreement for the sales of their establishment and land. But she did, because she 100% trusted the Chef.
Anyone who conveniently tells you what you want to here are people you should be careful of. 😉 Either they want something from you, using you, or simply doesn't care.
I'm mobile, MDL's app is too limitid on functions.
A year later, "honey". Did SJH slip, again?
Okay, maybe the are not dating secretly, fine. Here in the Philippines we have a stage called "Mutual Understanding" or "M.U." Two people are not officially a couple but at the same time more than best friends. They both know it, they just chose not to act on it yet (for whatever reason).
Then in the preview for next week's episode, she's slowly gaining weight again. She has a slow metabolism, which only makes it even more unbelievable to lose that much in a week.
I have a fast metabolism and yet it's hard to lose weight (ignoring other factors of course).
That's, wow, amazing. What is Yeeun's secret?!
Invading communities to spam hate/anti-fan sentiments is not acceptable. If you support it then that's no different in saying that it is acceptable to disrupt public roads and transportations to air one's grievances against their company. It is not and never will be. If you have issues with your company, bring it at the proper place, in the same way that anti-fan/hate comments should be done in the proper channels or platforms.
Keep things within the context of the show.
So, by your definition, it wasn't a cameo, he is a "guest". 😉
And if you compare that to the other casts listed as a "guest" in this show and other shows, they got far less airtime and less significant roles yet they're listed as a "guest" and not a "cameo".
Also, his character is "small"? How come? He got a high quality airtime and playing an.important character and it's a "cameo" but those who far less airtime and roles were listed as "guests"?
Think about it. By your own definition, he is a "guest" not a."cameo". 😉
Secondly, he did not and is not playing "a bit part", so by your definition it was not a cameo. 😉