I have a question for those of you that read the novel.After watching and reading both the drama and novel, which…
XL was the reason I picked up the drama. The summary and trailer wasn't very interesting, but the clip where Lord XL appeared in his ice mask, smirked at XY, I was floored. I picked up the novel after episode 15.
XL is more suitable for XY in terms of compatibility. They really understand each other, have similar interests and values. XL is also emotionally and psychologically stronger than her, so he actually is the one who could help her heal.
The person she ended up with serves only one purpose: to fillfill her abandonment and attachment issues.
The wisest of women wouldn't want to be like Xiao Yao. We rather love and fight courageously like her mother or…
XY has been the most unfulfilling protagonist I've ever encountered. I am still extremely conflicted about her devolution as a character.
In Xiao Yao, Tong Hua had crafted a protagonist living in a fantasy world, resembling a woman of the 21st century—independent, pragmatic, pessimistic, and self-reliant. However, at the core of Xiao Yao lies codependency, low self-esteem, and insecurities stemming from abandonment and trust issues.
XY is not unique in her trauma, so it becomes unsatisfying to see a protagonist who is meandering as an empowered woman, consistently waiting for her knight in shining armor to give up all his possessions to roam the world with her without a care.
In the world of Dahuang, if a woman of XY's status desires it, she can play an important role in the making of a country. Her own mother is proof of it. Yet, she chooses to leave all those decisions for the men in her life. She wants none of it. However, has she never thought about what a peaceful life means and the sacrifices that will be needed for that to be achieved?
Not long ago, I chanced upon this psychological theory--the Dunning-Kruger Effect which refers to a concept in psychology that some people of low intelligence are the most likely to overestimate their own cognitive abilities. XY, who thinks she too cold, logical and wise for her own good, may actually be a character who overestimates her own brain power.
Before Xiang Liu's demise, he tells her, 'You can blame yourself for being useless...' And in the end, at least for me, she remains useless.
The only person worthy of the moon is Xiang Liu. Even after the production tried to change the meaning of the…
I think the the novel readers who are praising it, missed alot of details. lol. The first season actually didn't cut Jing as much as XL. so maybe second season?
The only person worthy of the moon is Xiang Liu. Even after the production tried to change the meaning of the…
XY was a liar and a coward. She spent her life lying to herself to rewrite the stars. XY always knew what the moon really meant to her.
There's an important scene that was cut out that tells you what the moon really meant to her: During the new year festives, she had a moment of contemplation where she subconsciously withdrew from the CX, FL and Xingyue. She first though of TSH, then looked at the moon and though about Qingshui Town, and left her mind linger at XL, wondering if he is also looking at the very same moon.
“Jing is not a jade, so there's no such thing as dusty jade. Tushan Jing is like a bright moon, though the moon…
The only person worthy of the moon is Xiang Liu. Even after the production tried to change the meaning of the moon with this added scene, XL and the moon remains steadfast unbreakable and forever linked.
Wow we have people in this year who still believe in YXH accounts fake rumors...For real? Unfortunately, Fanwars…
Lol..If DW as TSJ is not generating enough reach, unique click throughs and new membership, but YZ as XY and JC-T as XL is, then it is in Tencent best interest to switch marketing strategy. The marketing team had 4 pairs of CP to market, mostly YaoLiu and YaoJing. They had four ML leads to use for marketing purposes. Probably first two weeks of marketing, and most likely through some A/B testing, they probably found that YaoLiu and Xiang Liu content generated the most click through and memberships sign ups. How is this doing DW and TSJ dirty? lmao. It's just smart business. The dirty thing is not calling out your toxic fandom for inappropriate behaviors.
While we wait for second season, here are a few of the romantic tropes present in the first season of "Lost You…
A romance trope can be a plot, character, or situational element commonly found in romance dramas.
1. Love at first sight - XY towards XL. Again, XY towards FFB.
2. Hate turning to love is one of the oldest tropes in drama, seen in everything from Korean to Japanese dramas like "Heirs" and "It Started with a Kiss." “Lost You Forever” is no stranger to this theme. Xiang Liu starts as an overbearing, mean anti-hero who treats the protagonist awfully. Through their unfortunate encounters, they falls deeply in love. Eventually, XL sacrifices his life by hosting a toxic and poisonous bug.
3. The underwater kiss is a trope reserved for lovers in drama, more prevalent in Chinese dramas. One notable example is the 1987 film "A Chinese Ghost Story." For staunch YaoLiu shippers, this moment signifies when XL and XY become lovers, destined despite their unfortunate fates.
4. Going on dates. Xiao Yao goes on three significant dates with Xiang Liu: watching the moon rise, and two underwater dates - one with red sea creatures, and a second with the mermaid song. As Fang Feng Bei, Xiang Liu takes Xiao Yao on multiple dates with him, roaming around town, enjoying good food and drinks.
5. The archery hug, another trope reserved for lovers, is seen as flirtatious Fang Feng Bei (Xiang Liu) gives Xiao Yao archery lessons.
6. The master/student love relationship, often found in Chinese costume dramas, is embodied by Fang Feng Bei (Xiang Liu) teaching Xiao Yao archery as a means to prepare her for self-defense.
7. The "steal the bride" trope, set to air in season two, is hinted at in the trailers with Fang Feng Bei (Xiang Liu) taking Xiao Yao from her wedding. Those familiar with the novel will understand.
While we wait for second season, here are a few of the romantic tropes present in the first season of "Lost You Forever" between Xiao Yao and Xiang Liu. 👇
XL is more suitable for XY in terms of compatibility. They really understand each other, have similar interests and values. XL is also emotionally and psychologically stronger than her, so he actually is the one who could help her heal.
The person she ended up with serves only one purpose: to fillfill her abandonment and attachment issues.
"But I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be"
In Xiao Yao, Tong Hua had crafted a protagonist living in a fantasy world, resembling a woman of the 21st century—independent, pragmatic, pessimistic, and self-reliant. However, at the core of Xiao Yao lies codependency, low self-esteem, and insecurities stemming from abandonment and trust issues.
XY is not unique in her trauma, so it becomes unsatisfying to see a protagonist who is meandering as an empowered woman, consistently waiting for her knight in shining armor to give up all his possessions to roam the world with her without a care.
In the world of Dahuang, if a woman of XY's status desires it, she can play an important role in the making of a country. Her own mother is proof of it. Yet, she chooses to leave all those decisions for the men in her life. She wants none of it. However, has she never thought about what a peaceful life means and the sacrifices that will be needed for that to be achieved?
Not long ago, I chanced upon this psychological theory--the Dunning-Kruger Effect which refers to a concept in psychology that some people of low intelligence are the most likely to overestimate their own cognitive abilities. XY, who thinks she too cold, logical and wise for her own good, may actually be a character who overestimates her own brain power.
Before Xiang Liu's demise, he tells her, 'You can blame yourself for being useless...' And in the end, at least for me, she remains useless.
What makes XY an unfulfilling protagonist?
There's an important scene that was cut out that tells you what the moon really meant to her: During the new year festives, she had a moment of contemplation where she subconsciously withdrew from the CX, FL and Xingyue. She first though of TSH, then looked at the moon and though about Qingshui Town, and left her mind linger at XL, wondering if he is also looking at the very same moon.
1. Love at first sight - XY towards XL. Again, XY towards FFB.
2. Hate turning to love is one of the oldest tropes in drama, seen in everything from Korean to Japanese dramas like "Heirs" and "It Started with a Kiss." “Lost You Forever” is no stranger to this theme. Xiang Liu starts as an overbearing, mean anti-hero who treats the protagonist awfully. Through their unfortunate encounters, they falls deeply in love. Eventually, XL sacrifices his life by hosting a toxic and poisonous bug.
3. The underwater kiss is a trope reserved for lovers in drama, more prevalent in Chinese dramas. One notable example is the 1987 film "A Chinese Ghost Story." For staunch YaoLiu shippers, this moment signifies when XL and XY become lovers, destined despite their unfortunate fates.
4. Going on dates. Xiao Yao goes on three significant dates with Xiang Liu: watching the moon rise, and two underwater dates - one with red sea creatures, and a second with the mermaid song. As Fang Feng Bei, Xiang Liu takes Xiao Yao on multiple dates with him, roaming around town, enjoying good food and drinks.
5. The archery hug, another trope reserved for lovers, is seen as flirtatious Fang Feng Bei (Xiang Liu) gives Xiao Yao archery lessons.
6. The master/student love relationship, often found in Chinese costume dramas, is embodied by Fang Feng Bei (Xiang Liu) teaching Xiao Yao archery as a means to prepare her for self-defense.
7. The "steal the bride" trope, set to air in season two, is hinted at in the trailers with Fang Feng Bei (Xiang Liu) taking Xiao Yao from her wedding. Those familiar with the novel will understand.