I rewatched the part where XL played the zither and the song is good but for me it was TJC who is playing and…
I think I understand the humor behind this scene! right before XL starts playing, he snarked at XY, so she was like you play then....so it really was to show how they both can't play he guzheng gracefully! 🤣😂
I thought it had something to do with the war that Xiyan wants to have with Haoling, but I could be wrong
It's more a formalities, CX uses revenge for His Dads death (which the Haoling Emperor did Indirectly caused it by not sending reinforcements...) but really the war was to prove that CX deserves to be emperor, as a way to conquer the Haoling tribes/clans. It's a really selfish reason only the rich and powerful can make, by sending poor young men to die for thier noble causes. But it also meant the Haoling tribes won't rebel against CX.
Question- when that friend I forgot his name,,came on behalf of CX to deal with XL and he said to surrender and…
Imo, as long as XL is alive, there will always be hope, and with hope for Chenrong, there might not ever be a truly united Xiyan empire. XL's death will kill the hope.
I love xiangliu but that scene of him singing made me cringe soooo hard lol
Lol ..... all the ways they could have shot this scene, they choose the worst possible way...🤣😂😅. How about singing to the moon with a jar of wine? maybe then we will understand the eccentricity?!
TH has always drew a parallel life story between Chi Chen and Xiang Liu, indirectly in the novel. To have her adapt it literally this way further confirms all her hidden allogorical themes (which is much harder to draw in film without having to shoot those comparisons in LYF).
This song Chi Chen sang for XY's mother, Ah Heng, and having XL sing this same song to XY later resonates thier parrellel and doomed romance. 🥹🤧😭
It's so sad to think that XL can't even believe XY likes him, same as XY can't believe he likes her 😭😭😭
I think it's becuase XL wants her to be honest..... she stands to lose more than him...if she can't be honest, he can't pursue knowing she will have regrets. 🥹😭
Have ya seen this beautiful fan edit that pieces together XL outlook on life.
I recommend ya'll watch it cause this is one of the reasons why Xiang Liu can exist without his loveline. He is a whole character, fleshed out with the most beautiful and bittersweet perspectives. He lived his life to to fullest and enjoyed every detail. 🥰💋🐍❄️
currently rewatching and I’m curious about the part where XY is in her bed and XL(FFB) comes in with the mask…
Also one of my fav. scenes. The adaptation leans heavily on XL's perspective, so many viewers miss out on XY's perspective. The blessing in the novel is that we get a glimpse into XY's emotions and thoughts. The adaptation also cut the scene where XY set up her poison trap to ensure XL's safety, and only after double checking that she didn't miss a spot, her heart finally relaxed.
True love in Lost You Forever is clearly shown...without needing of any voodoo thing...XY and Jing developed themselves…
I see that you have not addressed your ignorant and, albeit, microaggressive racist mindset. If you have a problem with the plot device, there are nuanced ways to address it. In your negative tone, labeling the Lovers' Bugs as something negative without even trying to understand why Tong Hua wrote it that way indirectly indicates that shamanism is something evil.
Nowhere in the text does Tong Hua describe the practice of 孤 (Gu) as a negative thing. Did she paint it as mysterious? Yes. Was it unknown and unpredictable? Of course. But she explained it with a nuanced perspective that was neither good nor evil because 蛊 itself was meant to prolong loved ones' lives. It tied two people together in life and death. Lovers' Bugs are no different except they tie two lovers together. The Juili Shaman King called it a curse only because of the ramifications if the hearts betray each other.
It's already hard enough that the translation for shamanism has been misconstrued as voodoo. Voodoo and shamanism are TWO SEPARATE religious and healing practices. I can only speak to shamanism, as this is my family's ancestral practice. The Juili are my ancestors in folklore, and Chi You is my patriarchal ancestor. Tong Hua's use of my ancestors as inspiration for a part of her novel is both flattering and nuanced. The nuance is the reason in the adaptation there is no Shaman King and no Juili.
In shamanism, my ancestors have always practiced healing first (spirit, mind, and body). Shamans travel between the spirit world, guided by spiritual guides, to help people heal spiritually in order to heal the mind and body. We honor our ancestors and the spirits of nature. Our shaman elders are revered in our community. So, to describe the Lovers' Bugs and the practice of tying your souls together as negative, primitive, or evil is ignorant.
Yes, XY as a character dismissing the Shaman King's knowledge is disrespectful. Who is she to question the knowledge of the eldest shaman in Juili? Who are you to look down on shamanism when you know nothing about the root that inspired Tong Hua's most important plot device?
If you don't understand what voodoo or shamanism is, you should learn about it instead of spouting your negative undertones. If you don't understand why your statement can come across as microaggressively racist, there's always Google.
One day left!!!!(≧▽≦)I saved the cutest for last. Behold Feng Long and why he's a hero character? 👇👇👇
Chi Siu Feng Long is the only hero in XY’s life. He embodies a classical idealism of what a hero is. Webster dictionary defines a hero as a person widely admired for their noble qualities and remarkable achievements, often possessing physical or magical strength that sets them apart.
Heroic attributes includes unwavering physical, mental, and emotional resilience, persisting in the face of adversity.
Heroes exhibit immense courage and an unshakable commitment to a strong sense of right and wrong. Whether dedicated to a mission, relationship, or a deeply held value system, heroes inspire through their unwavering dedication to noble causes.
They are exemplars of integrity and virtue, embodying the principles of heroism that often involve standing up for justice and rebelling against oppressive authority figures and societal norms.
FL's unwavering dedication to CX's vision of a united, peaceful world, characterized by brotherhood and filial piety, is a prominent theme throughout the story. He's portrayed as someone willing to sacrifice his own desires, even for the betterment of the world. FL possesses qualities of intelligence, bravery, and courage. He derives joy from bringing happiness to those around him, both loved ones and strangers.
What sets FL apart is his genuine kindness, extended not only to those he loves but also to strangers. He's the kind of man who was more upset at his friend for not revealing his feelings for the same girl, who, despite humiliation at his own wedding, chooses forgiveness, and who grapples with the conflict between his best friend and his filial piety toward his sister, ultimately choosing self-sacrifice to mend their relationship.
Even his reason for marrying XY aligns with the hero's mission, as it transcends mere physical desires. To him, brotherhood and friendship are among life's most cherished possessions. Since he knows he must marry eventually, he decides to marry his friend, especially one who is on the same side of history and is equal in familial and economic status. It's also unique that Feng Long describes his reasons as impure because they are not entirely rooted in romance. "I know women want romance to be pure, but sometimes you can think that all these impure reasons are the invisible threads that bind us together tightly. They might even be stronger and tighter than romance."
However, FL's affection for XY isn't devoid of love or desire, as Tong Hua skillfully portrays, “Feng Long stared at Xiao Yao, and he was so overcome that he couldn't wait for the ceremony to be over as soon as possible, for night to fall as quickly as possible, to return to their honeymoon suite as soon as possible.” Hehe.
XY didn't desire a hero, which is why she couldn't love him; she could only offer friendship.
True love in Lost You Forever is clearly shown...without needing of any voodoo thing...XY and Jing developed themselves…
It is a racist and biased term to use in your negative context! Voodoo is not even the correct translation for the Lover Bugs! Nor is the word witch doctor!
It's shamanism that Juili practices! The correct term for a practitioner is shaman.
Additionally, voodoo, like shamanism, is rooted in healing first! It is a racist and colonialist mindset that paints it in a negative light. Check your privilege!
Two days left! Today, I present my first LYF essay—a character analysis of Cang Xuan.Yes, yes...how can this…
Cang Xuan stands as the central figure in "Lost You Forever," serving as the quintessential archetype of the antihero. His character is defined by the intricate interplay of dual nature—possessing good intentions while employing questionable methods. Despite his actions yielding unselfish results, beneath the surface, selfish motives drive him. This complexity keeps the audience constantly questioning his moral compass, blurring the lines between heroism and antiheroism.
An anti-hero is defined as a protagonist or notable figure conspicuously lacking in heroic qualities. Anti-hero archetypes are incredibly complex due to their dual nature, oscillating between good and bad qualities and often displaying equal proclivities for both good and evil. For further exploration of this character archetype, the article "6 Common Elements You'll Find in an Anti-Hero" on the Storyflint website delves deeper.
Cang Xuan aspires to become emperor, yet he finds contentment in exploring the world, spoiling Ah Nian, and secretly searching for Xiao Yao. Simultaneously, he plots to either use or take down Xiang Liu to further his ambitions.
While Cang Xuan may appear heroic on the surface with his noble cause of uniting the world of Dahuang as emperor, this decision was set into motion only after reuniting with Xiao Yao. It was driven by his survival instincts, facing the choice of either killing or being killed by his uncles, and fueled by a deep desire to create a safer world for Xiao Yao, a mission made possible by Xiao Yao’s status.
He continues to enter into prominent marriages for his cause. Heroes typically uphold values that transcend worldly entanglements or steadfastly reserve their hearts for one person. Yet, despite his genuine love for XY, he persists in pursuing loveless relationships for his noble cause. And don’t get me started on his decision to become a drug addict, ruin his reputation, and become someone useless, just to get to where he needs to be.
Cang Xuan's determination to protect the women in his life is deeply rooted in his trauma from losing Xiao Yao, his mother, his beloved aunt (XY's mother), and his grandmother. Anyone who dares to harm them often finds themselves facing a very dark and wrathful man.
He doesn't hesitate to seek revenge, adhering to the principle of 'an eye for an eye.' We witness this ominous side of him on three occasions: first when Xiao Liu kidnaps Ah Nian for Xiang Liu, then in the aftermath of Xiao Yao’s assassination, and again when he plots to kill Jing. Furthermore, if Jing ever wavers in his oath to protect Xiao Yao again, there is no promise that CX wouldn't hesitate to do what he needs to ensure XY's safety.
To him, the women in his life hold a value higher than life itself, transcending all logic and reason. "Today, if I were to abandon the pursuit of justice against those who have harmed Xiao Yao in exchange for power, I would be betraying the person I once was, the one who stood resolute before Cao Yun Peak. If I betray my own vow, I will never be able to recall the happy and sad moments of our past with a clear conscience."
Even his choice to allow Xiang Liu, the sworn enemy of the Xiyan Empire, to take Xiao Yao for her recovery is, at best, questionable, but the ends justify the means.
Cang Xuan’s ambitions are interconnected with his desire to protect Xiao Yao. However, XY’s loyalty to CX and her love for him stem from sibling bond. This is not only because he sacrificed so much of his dignity for a world XY can exist in, but also because he can no longer be the man XY wants. While sitting atop the world, he could possibly be someone who would put her first, but he no longer meets XY’s second requirement of having no other woman.
CX's tragedy comes in full circle, decidingly to let XY go, losing her forever to the wilderness in his journey to be the one to protect her.
Two days left! Today, I present my first LYF essay—a character analysis of Cang Xuan.
Yes, yes...how can this XL fan end up writing about CX first? Because CX is our ML protagonist with more screen time, so it was easier to see his character unfold. 🤣👇👇👇
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This song Chi Chen sang for XY's mother, Ah Heng, and having XL sing this same song to XY later resonates thier parrellel and doomed romance. 🥹🤧😭
"Tan JianCi don't sing anymore, my heart is in pain"
I recommend ya'll watch it cause this is one of the reasons why Xiang Liu can exist without his loveline. He is a whole character, fleshed out with the most beautiful and bittersweet perspectives. He lived his life to to fullest and enjoyed every detail. 🥰💋🐍❄️
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Nowhere in the text does Tong Hua describe the practice of 孤 (Gu) as a negative thing. Did she paint it as mysterious? Yes. Was it unknown and unpredictable? Of course. But she explained it with a nuanced perspective that was neither good nor evil because 蛊 itself was meant to prolong loved ones' lives. It tied two people together in life and death. Lovers' Bugs are no different except they tie two lovers together. The Juili Shaman King called it a curse only because of the ramifications if the hearts betray each other.
It's already hard enough that the translation for shamanism has been misconstrued as voodoo. Voodoo and shamanism are TWO SEPARATE religious and healing practices. I can only speak to shamanism, as this is my family's ancestral practice. The Juili are my ancestors in folklore, and Chi You is my patriarchal ancestor. Tong Hua's use of my ancestors as inspiration for a part of her novel is both flattering and nuanced. The nuance is the reason in the adaptation there is no Shaman King and no Juili.
In shamanism, my ancestors have always practiced healing first (spirit, mind, and body). Shamans travel between the spirit world, guided by spiritual guides, to help people heal spiritually in order to heal the mind and body. We honor our ancestors and the spirits of nature. Our shaman elders are revered in our community. So, to describe the Lovers' Bugs and the practice of tying your souls together as negative, primitive, or evil is ignorant.
Yes, XY as a character dismissing the Shaman King's knowledge is disrespectful. Who is she to question the knowledge of the eldest shaman in Juili? Who are you to look down on shamanism when you know nothing about the root that inspired Tong Hua's most important plot device?
If you don't understand what voodoo or shamanism is, you should learn about it instead of spouting your negative undertones. If you don't understand why your statement can come across as microaggressively racist, there's always Google.
Heroic attributes includes unwavering physical, mental, and emotional resilience, persisting in the face of adversity.
Heroes exhibit immense courage and an unshakable commitment to a strong sense of right and wrong. Whether dedicated to a mission, relationship, or a deeply held value system, heroes inspire through their unwavering dedication to noble causes.
They are exemplars of integrity and virtue, embodying the principles of heroism that often involve standing up for justice and rebelling against oppressive authority figures and societal norms.
FL's unwavering dedication to CX's vision of a united, peaceful world, characterized by brotherhood and filial piety, is a prominent theme throughout the story. He's portrayed as someone willing to sacrifice his own desires, even for the betterment of the world. FL possesses qualities of intelligence, bravery, and courage. He derives joy from bringing happiness to those around him, both loved ones and strangers.
What sets FL apart is his genuine kindness, extended not only to those he loves but also to strangers. He's the kind of man who was more upset at his friend for not revealing his feelings for the same girl, who, despite humiliation at his own wedding, chooses forgiveness, and who grapples with the conflict between his best friend and his filial piety toward his sister, ultimately choosing self-sacrifice to mend their relationship.
Even his reason for marrying XY aligns with the hero's mission, as it transcends mere physical desires. To him, brotherhood and friendship are among life's most cherished possessions. Since he knows he must marry eventually, he decides to marry his friend, especially one who is on the same side of history and is equal in familial and economic status. It's also unique that Feng Long describes his reasons as impure because they are not entirely rooted in romance. "I know women want romance to be pure, but sometimes you can think that all these impure reasons are the invisible threads that bind us together tightly. They might even be stronger and tighter than romance."
However, FL's affection for XY isn't devoid of love or desire, as Tong Hua skillfully portrays, “Feng Long stared at Xiao Yao, and he was so overcome that he couldn't wait for the ceremony to be over as soon as possible, for night to fall as quickly as possible, to return to their honeymoon suite as soon as possible.” Hehe.
XY didn't desire a hero, which is why she couldn't love him; she could only offer friendship.
I saved the cutest for last. Behold Feng Long and why he's a hero character? 👇👇👇
It's shamanism that Juili practices! The correct term for a practitioner is shaman.
Additionally, voodoo, like shamanism, is rooted in healing first! It is a racist and colonialist mindset that paints it in a negative light. Check your privilege!
An anti-hero is defined as a protagonist or notable figure conspicuously lacking in heroic qualities. Anti-hero archetypes are incredibly complex due to their dual nature, oscillating between good and bad qualities and often displaying equal proclivities for both good and evil. For further exploration of this character archetype, the article "6 Common Elements You'll Find in an Anti-Hero" on the Storyflint website delves deeper.
Cang Xuan aspires to become emperor, yet he finds contentment in exploring the world, spoiling Ah Nian, and secretly searching for Xiao Yao. Simultaneously, he plots to either use or take down Xiang Liu to further his ambitions.
While Cang Xuan may appear heroic on the surface with his noble cause of uniting the world of Dahuang as emperor, this decision was set into motion only after reuniting with Xiao Yao. It was driven by his survival instincts, facing the choice of either killing or being killed by his uncles, and fueled by a deep desire to create a safer world for Xiao Yao, a mission made possible by Xiao Yao’s status.
He continues to enter into prominent marriages for his cause. Heroes typically uphold values that transcend worldly entanglements or steadfastly reserve their hearts for one person. Yet, despite his genuine love for XY, he persists in pursuing loveless relationships for his noble cause. And don’t get me started on his decision to become a drug addict, ruin his reputation, and become someone useless, just to get to where he needs to be.
Cang Xuan's determination to protect the women in his life is deeply rooted in his trauma from losing Xiao Yao, his mother, his beloved aunt (XY's mother), and his grandmother. Anyone who dares to harm them often finds themselves facing a very dark and wrathful man.
He doesn't hesitate to seek revenge, adhering to the principle of 'an eye for an eye.' We witness this ominous side of him on three occasions: first when Xiao Liu kidnaps Ah Nian for Xiang Liu, then in the aftermath of Xiao Yao’s assassination, and again when he plots to kill Jing. Furthermore, if Jing ever wavers in his oath to protect Xiao Yao again, there is no promise that CX wouldn't hesitate to do what he needs to ensure XY's safety.
To him, the women in his life hold a value higher than life itself, transcending all logic and reason. "Today, if I were to abandon the pursuit of justice against those who have harmed Xiao Yao in exchange for power, I would be betraying the person I once was, the one who stood resolute before Cao Yun Peak. If I betray my own vow, I will never be able to recall the happy and sad moments of our past with a clear conscience."
Even his choice to allow Xiang Liu, the sworn enemy of the Xiyan Empire, to take Xiao Yao for her recovery is, at best, questionable, but the ends justify the means.
Cang Xuan’s ambitions are interconnected with his desire to protect Xiao Yao. However, XY’s loyalty to CX and her love for him stem from sibling bond. This is not only because he sacrificed so much of his dignity for a world XY can exist in, but also because he can no longer be the man XY wants. While sitting atop the world, he could possibly be someone who would put her first, but he no longer meets XY’s second requirement of having no other woman.
CX's tragedy comes in full circle, decidingly to let XY go, losing her forever to the wilderness in his journey to be the one to protect her.
Yes, yes...how can this XL fan end up writing about CX first? Because CX is our ML protagonist with more screen time, so it was easier to see his character unfold. 🤣👇👇👇