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I think because he wanted to add extra to the drink that was supposed to be for Mangkorn to make sure it really worked. But he got confused and couldn't remember which one he had already put it in so ended up putting it in the other drink as well. He also gave them the wrong drug he was supposed to give the blue one which would make Mangkorn fall asleep but instead he gave the red one.

It's pretty much over Cake comes back from abroad in the next episode coming up this Friday. So you could start in the next few days and get caught up and be ready when the new episode comes out. Or you can just wait till the new one airs so you can binge all 10 of them together however you prefer.

Sort of he is with his wife and daughter at the end but he has amnesia and can't remember everything about his wife and daughter.

Episode 8

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Not sure about a scholarship because they haven't mentioned one. But he isn't coming back specifically for college. He was always supposed to come back. And he didn't go abroad specifically to go to high school.

He moved abroad because his dad got a promotion at his job and was transferred to work in America and so his whole family moved. But his dad was only supposed to work in America for 3 years and then was supposed to come back to Thailand. So the plan was always to come back. It just worked out that the 3 years ended at the end of high school and before college started.

I thought the same thing about his mom, just would like to know for sure. But never will, Oh Well I guess lol!!

I'm sure he will seek professional help Ji Won would definitely push for that. I have a feeling even if they weren't together anymore she would still push for it for his sake and Eun Ha's.

That makes sense about Eun Ha she doesn't seem to have the same characteristics as her dad so that's good.

And yes he has left a lot of emotions. I really can't help but root for him and want him to have a happy ending. Because he clearly wasn't a bad person. He has some neurological issues yes, but that isn't his fault he did grow up with a serial killer father no wonder he was messed up. Even if he was born with issues his dad surely didn't help. It's a wonder his sister turned out pretty normal.

This is the first drama I have watched of LJG's but I thought he was exceptional. A really great actor he had me 100 percent immersed in his character. I may have to check out some of his other drama's.

I have not seen the Devil Judge yet thanks for the recommendation. I will check that out.

Ok since you explained it like that it makes more sense to me, but I'm still not happy with the ending at all. They didn't answer questions that I and maybe other people still have.

1-What happened to his mom? They told she went missing, and he had that recording of her voice that made him lose it every time he listened to it. But WHY did it make him act that way? Did he know what really happened to his mom?

2-We never found out exactly what was wrong with him. Yes he has a neurological disorder but what exactly? Was he born that way or was he made that way by his father? If he was born that way could his daughter end up like that as well? Does he ever get help and proper treatment for his issues?

3- Does he ever learn how to understand his feelings, what they mean, how to label them and express them without having to watch videos to teach him? If so how does it do it? It was obvious he really cared about and cherished Ji Won and his daughter but does he ever truly come to love them?

4-As far as they showed he only recovered 2 memories by the end. He was with Ji Won for 14 years and his daughter for 6. There are lots of memories for him to recover. Does he ever recover them all? If so how? He asked Ji Won to help him find the man he was with her how does she help him?

5-How does he live? What kind of man is he really? What kind of person is he
after no longer having to hide, lie and pretend, when finally able to live freely?

We never once saw who he TRULY was and it would have been really nice to see that. It would have been nice to see him and his life after overcoming everything. Even if for just one episode or even just half an episode. Just to wrap it up nicely and answer all questions. The way it ended with still so many questions unanswered is just so frustrating to me. I don't like endings like that in any series/drama/movie unless there is going to be a second season or continuation. If that is going to be the END then why not give it a complete ending and explain and answer everything that needs to be instead of leaving it to the viewers to assume or imagine the answers. But that is my personal opinion of course.

Now with that being said overall I did really love it (except the ending). And all the actors were AMAZING. I was interested and intrigued the whole time. I just needed/wanted that little bit more to make this my all time favorite. Overall I gave this drama a 9 which isn't bad.

I loved this drama until the very last episode, because AMNESIA, WHY??? That seriously ruined the entire last episode for me. Because the only people he forgot were his wife and his daughter SERIOUSLY??? That precious little girl who loved him more than anyone. That little girl who said he was her favorite person in the whole world and he forgot her?? And said he didn't even want to see her because he couldn't remember her, just wanted to give his wife some money and then not see them again.

Then the mean things he said to and about his wife just to get her to give up and let him go and then when she finally decides to he asks her to change her mind? And in the end they got back together but he still hadn't recovered all his memories. I would like to have seen how he got his memories back and how he learned to show emotions. But it just ended like that? This was so close to being my very favorite K drama until the very last episode. But overall it was very good just disappointed with the last episode.

No they only have interactions with their friends but not with each other. But starting episode 8 they will be the main couple.

I can't argue about the us being funny lol!! I know that Georgia and both North and South Carolina have the age of consent as 16. But there are also quite a few where the age of consent is 18. In Virginia you can't get married legally till 18 either.

I honestly think it is ridiculous because 16/17 year olds do have intercourse. But I guess the law is there because they don't want them to do it with someone who might be maybe in their 20's or possibly older. But that's not to say that they don't. And the marriage thing is weird as well because as long as it's ok with the parents then it shouldn't be an issue. 15/16/17 year olds have kids but can't get married. It doesn't really make sense.

I don't really mind age gaps myself in adults. My parents are 4 years apart. But my mom was 19 and my dad was 23 when they got together. And I also know people with 10,12 and even 15 years age difference. I think they were all adults when they got together but not 100 percent sure. I just don't like the age gaps if one is an adult and the other is a minor. But that could very well be just because of the society I grew up in. It's engraved in my mind, But at the same time I understand the laws are different in different states, countries so I try to keep that in mind and be understanding when watching series/drama's from other countries/cultures.

And yes US laws are interesting how they vary from state to state.

I also respect your point of view. It is always nice and interesting to learn about other countries and cultures. I have heard about the age of consensual sex being 16 in some states/countries. And in some places it is even lower than that. I guess I live in an oddball place (Virginia) where the age of consent and age of adulthood are the same. Which is why it is illegal here, because according to our laws a person can't give consent until they are an adult. But I am aware and I'm sure law enforcement is as well that people under age 18 date and have intercourse. They just can't legally do it with someone 18 and older.

But of course law enforcement won't know about these relationships unless they get reported. So I guess it depends on how the families/friends of the people in the relationship feel about it and if they choose to report it. If it is a small age difference like 16/17 dating an 18 yo then parents/families may not really mind. I personally don't think a year or so difference would be bad. But I wouldn't let my 15 yo or younger date someone 18 or older. But again it depends on how the people around feel about it and if they choose to report it. The person I knew was 18 dating a 14 yo and the parents of the 14 yo reported it.

I also don't find Peak and Hom monsters at all. I do think it would be inappropriate for them to date right now but I don't think they are monsters for feeling how they feel. You can't help who you become attracted to. But sometimes it's best not to act on those feelings just like Hom is doing. She knows it isn't the right thing right now and I respect that. Thanks for sharing and listening!!

I agree that younger guys/girls can find older guys/girls interesting/attractive and have a crush on them. Even older ones can find the younger one's attractive. And as long as that is all that it is then it is fine I suppose. I have no problem with age gaps as long as both people are adults, but he is still basically a kid right now.

Where I live anyone under the age of 18 is LEGALLY a minor (still a kid) no matter how mature they may be. And anyone 18 and over is LEGALLY and adult. Anyone age 18 and over can not LEGALLY date anyone under age 18. If people of their ages dated where I live then the 18 (or older) person could be arrested and sent to prison and be labeled as a child predator. I actually know someone who was sent to prison here because they were 18 and dated someone younger. But of course just because it is illegal doesn't mean that people don't do it. And they don't always necessarily go to prison it just depends on if they get caught/reported for it.

I have lived here my entire life and this is the law/rule that I have always been taught, grown up with and followed. And because of that, thinking about Hom and Peak dating is disgusting and inappropriate to me. But of course after the 3 years when Peak would also be an adult then I would have no problem with it.

That being said I am aware that not all countries or even states have the same rules/laws about these things. I'm not sure what the law about this in in Thailand or other countries so I am trying to be understanding of that and not judge too much.

Katori is Amagi's friend with the glasses

No he has completely graduated and is working 2 jobs.

Yes!! Can't always be sure that the translations are good or accurate. And not being fluent in Thai I just go by what I'm given in the translations. But sometimes that may cause me to misunderstand the story or situation. That's why I like to share my opinions with other's and get theirs. To see if there is something I didn't understand.

Yes it is always pleasant to share.

And thanks, I just wrote what I saw and my opinions on it. I will be so glad to see Cake finally realize his feelings.

Of course at that age every thing seems difficult to handle. And of course she can have those feelings and I can understand her being upset. But in the translations (unless they are wrong). She doesn't say he could have informed her before.

She says "So you're never going to ask me before"

Informing and asking are different things. Informing means telling her that he is moving. And I agree that he should have done that sooner and she has every right to be upset that he didn't.

But asking means getting her permission and making sure she is ok with it before he does it. Which I just found wrong because she can neither give nor deny him permission.

But after speaking with TheFirstMichael2206 I understand Rin better in that scene. She surely knew that she couldn't give him permission and that him "asking" her wouldn't make a difference or change the fact that he had to move. She just wanted to be involved and feel included even if it changed nothing.

Anyways. thanks for sharing your opinion and listening to mine.

True they clearly didn't communicate well there. But considering Rin never met Eiw i can't see a valid or good reason for her to dislike Eiw other than jealousy. But I could be wrong and at this point we will probably never know why she doesn't like him. And honestly it really doesn't matter.

I understand about wanting to be included in the conversation instead of just having it sprung on you. And I agree they should have talked about what would happen next. Would they stay together and if so how would they make it work. And I will say she did seem to want to talk but as you said before Cake seemed to already have his mind made up and did not handle that well.

You make some good points. Why didn't she ever meet his friends? And why did he suddenly break up? I don't think they would have lasted either especially not in a LDR when they can't or don't communicate properly. But if they had a proper conversation it could have ended better. And we don't have enough information to point fingers because we've only seen/heard Cake's side and may never know Rin's.

I have enjoyed reading your thoughts and sharing mine. Thanks.

Yes Rin is a young girl and Cake is her first boyfriend. I can understand her wanting to spend all of her time with Cake and wanting the same from him. I can even understand her being upset/jealous of him saying that he preferred or wanted to spend time with Eiw more. Although being in a relationship doesn't mean you have to spend every moment together. Or that you never see/spend time with your friends and only spend time with your boyfriend/girlfriend. But since she is a young girl in her first relationship I can understand and look past that. But I can also understand Cake not wanting to give up his friendships (especially Eiw) just because he has a girlfriend.

You said she is not selfish just exclusive. But being exclusive means only dating each other and not dating other people. It doesn't mean to cut off/neglect/ignore friends just because you have a boyfriend/girlfriend. It doesn't mean to never see/make time for your friends because you are in a relationship. But again I understand that she is a young girl in her first relationship so she wants Cake to devote all of his time to her. But that is unfair to the other people in Cake's life who are getting ignored/neglected and even unfair to Cake who wants to spend time with his friends. And it is kinda selfish even if she doesn't mean for it to be.

And she asked Cake why he didn't ask her before deciding to move abroad, why he didn't ask about her feelings first. That's also kinda selfish, it's not like Cake wants to move but he doesn't have a choice. His parents are moving and he is a minor so of course he has to move too. Should he have talked to her sooner about it? Yes. But it's not like it would matter or change anything if he had. No matter when he talked to her or how she felt about it he would still have to move. It's not like he can not move or his dad can give up his job just because Rin doesn't like it. And she even said being apart for 3 years how would they work. That could have made Cake think that she would break up with him anyways.

They are both young and in their first relationship and neither handled it well.

You have a point most of that we did hear from Cake. But putting aside the things we heard about her from Cake (which may or may not be true). When Cake confronted her about saying that Eiw was annoying and that she didn't like him Rin didn't deny saying it. And she basically said she didn't like Cake making his friend a priority. And from what I remember she never even met Eiw. So why would she find him annoying and not like him other than the fact that Cake was spending time with Eiw and making him a "priority". So her being upset that Cake made Eiw a priority tells me that she did have a problem with him spending time with his friends. Friends should be a priority even in a relationship. Not saying they should be number one priority but shouldn't be ignored and cut off either. There should be a balance. You can't give up your friends especially lifelong ones like Eiw just because you have a girlfriend/boyfriend. But whether Rin wanted it that way or not Cake made the decision to spend all of his time with Rin. If he didn't like it he should have told her honestly instead of complaining to his friends.

But she annoyed me when she asked Cake why didn't he ask her first and ask her feelings about it first before deciding to move abroad. Seriously?? I get she was upset but did she think that if he talked to her and asked her it would change the fact that he had to move? His parents are moving and he is a minor so he doesn't have a choice. So whatever her feelings about it are doesn't really matter and won't change anything. It's not like he can not move or his dad can give up his job just because Rin doesn't like it. And she even asked him being apart for 3 years how would they make it. So she clearly had some concerns about that as well.

Should Cake have had a better conversation with her? Yes, absolutely. They should have talked about each other's thoughts and feelings about it and tried to come to a middle ground. And yes normally mature people would talk things through in a rational way. But these are 2 young kids in their first relationship and not really mature and didn't know what to do or how to handle it.