No, the teacher's feelings FOR (not with) the student are not “suddenly.” They have been loving each other…
Thanks for the reply. At the time, several weeks ago, I made a post and then several comments with that same text, adapting it to the circumstance of the debate. The reality: There is NOT a big age difference between the two young people. But, the important thing: love does not understand ages and other little things.
Is Toki and Sahara's relationship a pedophile relationship? Of course not. Pedophilic disorder is characterized by the presence of recurrent and intense sexually arousing fantasies, impulses, or behaviors related to children (usually up to 13 years of age). Pedophiles can be attracted to boys, girls, or both sexes, and they can be attracted to only boys or both children and adults. Doctors diagnose pedophilia when people feel distressed or less able to function well because of their attraction to children or when they have acted on impulses. Pedophilia is a form of paraphilia. As it causes harm to third parties, it is considered a disorder. Whether sexual interest or relationships between two people is considered a pedophilic disorder depends on the age of the people involved. In Western societies, a diagnosis of pedophilic disorder requires that the person suffering from it be over 16 years of age and at least 5 years older than the child who is the object of the sexual fantasies or activities. However, sexual involvement between an older adolescent (17 to 18 years old) and a 12 or 13 year old child cannot be considered a disorder. The age criteria used to identify when such activity is considered a crime may differ between cultures. Although laws vary from country to country, in general terms the law considers that a person over 18 years of age commits statutory rape when they have sexual relations with a person 16 years of age or younger. Rape cases often do not meet the criteria for pedophilia, highlighting the somewhat arbitrary nature of setting an age cut-off point in a medical or legal definition. In many places (including some states in the United States), children as young as 12 to 14 years old can legally marry, making the definition of pedophilia and statutory rape even more complex. Pedophilia is much more common in men than in women. Pedophiles can be attracted to boys, girls, or both sexes. It is not clear whether girls or boys are more likely to be victims of pedophiles, although girls appear to be much more likely to be victims of sexual abuse in general. Typically, the adult is someone the child knows, such as a family member, stepparent, or a person in authority (such as a teacher or coach). Some are attracted only to children within their own family (incest). Some pedophiles are attracted only to children, often of a specific age range or stage of development. Others are attracted to both children and adults. Activities consisting of observing or touching children appear to be more frequent than genital touching or sexual intercourse. Pedophile predators may use force or coercion to sexually subdue children, as well as threaten to harm them or their pets if they tell anyone. Many of these pedophiles have antisocial personality disorder. Many pedophiles have or develop a substance abuse or dependence disorder and depression. They often come from dysfunctional families, and it is very common for them to have marital conflicts. Many have been victims of sexual abuse as children. I have already said it on other occasions: I would propose to those who see incest or pedophilia in the series, that they be concerned about issues related to the human rights of homosexuals in Japan, Thailand and other countries. I am referring to the illegality of homosexuality even in the 21st century. Same-sex marriage in Japan is illegal and prohibited nationwide, even though homosexual acts between adults, by mutual consent and within the private sphere, were decriminalized in 1880. The Japanese Constitution says that a marriage is It happens between husband and wife. That is, legal marriage occurs only between a man and a woman. Furthermore, we cannot ignore that the Japanese Parliament unanimously approved, on Friday, June 16, 2023, a series of legislative reforms on sexual crimes. The new law, which includes amendments to the country's Penal Code, raised the age of consent from 13 to 16, and criminalizes any non-consensual sexual relationship (without requiring physical violence or coercion). The reforms facilitate judicial processes for rape and allow voyeurs to be considered criminals. The age of sexual consent in Japan is the lowest among G7 member countries, and is also lower than in China and South Korea, neighboring countries of the archipelago. While it is true that raising the age of voluntary consent from 13 to 16 would make it difficult for such young victims to bring their attackers to justice, while in many other countries such an act would be directly punishable, this is not the reality of the relationship between these two young characters in the series. The relationship between Sahara and Toki is just a love affair. I highly doubt a sexual relationship, even consensual, will ever be shown in the series. There is no law that prevents Sahara from falling in love with a boy about three years younger than him, even if he was a little older. The relationship between the two is not marked by pedophilia. The series is an adaptation of a manga published on the author's pixiv account, Toriya Kou, since July 8, 2018, when the age of consent was still 13 years old. The official serialization of the manga began on Gene pixiv on June 21, 2019. The filming process of the series itself began when the age of consent was 13 years old.
feel very weird that teacher out of sudden has feeling with the student...
No, the teacher's feelings FOR (not with) the student are not “suddenly.” They have been loving each other for a long time. By the way, the first to love the other was Toki, who fell in love at first sight. Surely you haven't realized, but Toki participates in the “45º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival”, as can be read on a giant sign at the entrance of the school. In the second episode, around minute 14.07, Sahara confesses to Toki that he also participated in the “Treasure Hunt” when he was in his third year of high school. Minutes before (12.22 minutes) a scene shows Sahara reading the brochure of the year in which she participated. It can be read clearly, in Japanese: “42º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival.” That is, Sahara participated three years ago in the same sporting event in which Toki is involved in the present. So the difference in elapsed years between Sahara's participation and Toki's participation in the treasure hunt is only three years. So, they must be three, at most, four years apart in age. Assuming Toki is 16, Sahara must be 19 or 20 at most. And if we consider that it is Toki who is chasing Sahara...
What a beautiful declaration of love from Toki-kun to Sahara sensei!: “I want to be an adult because… I want to be a man who can help you in various ways.” And Sahara's response expresses her feelings when she looks at him tenderly, smiles, and only manages to say: “Toki”, without any honorific.
Regarding First's sexuality, either he was heterosexual until he fell in love with Sprite or he is a closeted gay and Sprite's love gave him the courage to come out of it. They both discovered and accepted themselves as homosexuals. First's teammates, his father and his sister, especially the latter, so attentive to him especially for pursuing Zee, have never questioned or referred to his sexuality. This gives us a clear signal: they do not know it; They assume First to be heterosexual and therefore have nothing to say. Rather than First and his friend knowing each other's sexuality, I think it would be more correct to say that they imagine it, they conclude it, but without real elements to confirm it. If they haven't talked about it among themselves, they wouldn't be able to know each other's sexuality. In my opinion, this was the first time that the matter was discussed between the two of them. The new character is the one interested in reintroducing himself into First's life, but not as a friend, but as a lover. When First hears his statement what he does is think of Sprite. He loves Sprite and not anyone else. It is the creators' task to well characterize the characters born from their imagination. If First and Sprite had said something like: “this is my first kiss”, and the other had responded “I have kissed many people, but with you it is different” or, on the contrary, he had responded that it is also his first kiss , everything would be clarified. I, being a thinker, like clear things. I, a hopeless romantic, prefer this last option.
He is an ex. He said so. Who are we who believed First and Sprite are heterosexuals?
Hello. Regarding First's sexuality, I agree with you to a large extent. This is what it is said in the post. Either he was straight until he fell in love with Sprite or he is a closeted gay and Sprite's love gave him the courage to come out of it. They both discovered and accepted themselves as homosexuals. First's teammates, his father and his sister, especially the latter, so attentive to him especially for pursuing Zee, have never questioned or referred to his sexuality. This gives us a clear signal: they do not know it. They assume he is heterosexual and that is why they have nothing to say. Rather than First and his friend knowing each other's sexuality, I think it would be more correct to say that they imagine it, they conclude it, but without real elements to confirm it. If they haven't talked about it among themselves, they wouldn't know. In my opinion, this was the first time that the matter was discussed between the two of them. The new character is the one interested in reintroducing himself into First's life, but not as a friend, but as a lover. When First hears his statement what he does is think of Sprite. He loves Sprite and not anyone else. It is the creators' task to well characterize the fictional characters they create, despite the redundancy. If First and Sprite had said something like: “this is my first kiss”, and the other had responded “I have kissed many people, but with you it is different” or, on the contrary, he had responded that it is also his first kiss , everything would be clarified. I, being a thinker, like clear things. I, a hopeless romantic, prefer this last option.
What a shame about the series. It started well, but its creators were not able to finish it. Speaking in sporting terms, they lacked strength in the shot at the ball that would guarantee point for set, point for match, and thus achieve victory in three sets in a row, so they had to fight for victory in an agonizing tie break or fifth set. . The final part becomes a compilation of soap opera incidents whose objective is to advance the narrative arcs. The entry of a new character who has not dared to clarify whether he is an ex or not is hasty to leave the sexuality of one of the protagonists ambiguous, only with the purpose of adding tension at closing time. If he is an ex-boyfriend, then the characterization of the character played by Ryan would have to be noted as very weak, since everything seemed to indicate that First was heterosexual until he fell in love with Sprite, or at least he was a closeted gay, with no previous relationship. , and the love he feels for Sprite gave him the courage to come out of the closet. The arrogant and mean attitude of a Zee with Casanova pretensions, capable of destroying everything in his path while pretending to be a police investigator without success, is also not convincing. A Sprite playing the fool between his brother and the man he loves is also not convincing. Sprite never again attended training for his favorite sport, ju jitsu, to focus on volleyball, while his brother, who had to replace him on the mat, never even wore a uniform for a fight. With one episode missing, the reason why the two twins do not have a good relationship and everything is so tense between them is still unknown. It also hurts not to know the reason for the constant tension between Jack and Mike, but it hurts more that these characters have not been developed well and that their romantic relationship has only served to show some sexual dalliances. Luckily, Sam and Thun provide a light touch of humor and hope.
He is an ex. He said so. Who are we who believed First and Sprite are heterosexuals?
You entered my post. It is evident that he needed to express something. I have not used the term discuss, but debate, which is very different. The word used in the series by First's friend was not "break up", but "separate". "We separated...". “Separate” is very different than “break up.” It is logical, if he leaves school there has to be a separation from all his classmates, from his teachers... The boy tells First because First was his friend. “When I left school you and I separated.” Clearer, neither the water. For me it is only important if she had a boyfriend before because of what was expressed in the post: Everything indicates that First and Sprite were not homosexuals. After Sprite joins the team and meets and gets closer to First, they both fall in love. They discovered themselves in the process. They accepted each other as such and declared their love for each other. If they were gay beforehand and had not revealed themselves to us as the audience, with 45 minutes left before the end of the series, it shows a TERRIBLE characterization of the character. From what First and his friend said, they separated amicably and are now reunited. Does it seem logical to you that a boyfriend abandons the other because he is leaving school, and some time later the one who abandoned calls the abandoned one to tell him that he likes him, and the abandoned, listen once again to the declaration of love that you supposedly heard long ago? Does it seem logical to you that the abandoned person does not show any sign of anger, discomfort, or anger towards the ex-boyfriend who left him without any explanation? Does it seem logical to you that there is no sign of regret on the part of the boyfriend who abandoned the other and now returns as if nothing had happened to ask him to resume the courtship and pretend that nothing happened here? Don't you think it would be totally shameless for the boyfriend who abandoned the other to come now and ask him, “Let's start over because I like you a lot. Let's make a clean slate”? What did First do when he heard the boy's statement? He remained impassive, as if it were not with him. And he asked him: “Do you really like me? I'm curious. Because you like me?". Let's imagine that they were boyfriend and girlfriend. Wouldn't First then know why he likes her? Wouldn't First know the answer to that question? Of course. They would talk about this topic in the past. Anyway, I don't think they were dating. But if they were dating, absolutely nothing happens. Simply put, this fact alone would demonstrate the terrible writing of the script, since we, as an audience, do not know who First is.
He is an ex. He said so. Who are we who believed First and Sprite are heterosexuals?
Of course there is absolutely NO negative thing about having dated someone before. The issue lies in the characterization of the characters. Its importance is clearly expressed in the post, as well as why I refer to the characterization of the characters at this time. The "new" guy never expressed that they were dating and that they had broken up before. He did say in perfect Thai that when they transferred schools they had to separate. Several considerations or opinions of mine on the matter are established in other comments. I do not consider that my word contains the absolute truth. That is why I have waited for arguments that refute mine to continue the debate.
He is an ex. He said so. Who are we who believed First and Sprite are heterosexuals?
Who said "we are exes"? Who said "we were boyfriends"? What evidence is there that First and Sprite were homosexual before they met? With just one test I would be satisfied. But my post aims to highlight other, much more important issues. It's not my priority to determine whether First had a boyfriend or not, the number of boyfriends, whether she lost her virginity in high school or her freshman year of college, or whether her first kiss was with the 6-and-a-half-foot-tall guy across the street or the fat guy with wide glasses down the alley. These are insignificant issues. My interest is to point out the mediocrity of the scripts, because at the end of the series we discover, having been dating, that we do not know the characters.
First is the least of this shows problem. In fact, he's on the low list of my complaints comparatively LOL.
"If I didn't change schools, we wouldn't have broken up". I noticed this phrase from the first moment, but it does not necessarily mean that they were dating. The fact that one of them dropped out of school would inevitably lead to both of them separating. Not only would it separate from First. But this separation does not mean that it is like boyfriends. It can also be as friends, as study partners, in class. Even the two boys who came with First's friend did not offer any evidence or information to suggest a possible courtship. Between them they could very well have talked about the two boyfriends finally meeting again, or hopefully continuing their romance or something like that. Two boyfriends would stay together, if they wanted, even if one of them transferred schools. Two friends too. Although, of course, it would change the fact of not seeing each other so often, of maintaining a long-distance relationship. None of this has been told. Namely, they parted ways amicably. If they had a loving relationship, they were able to maintain it in these new circumstances. I see it as a way for the creators to add tension, lengthen the series, test First and Sprite's love, incorporate the drama of the penultimate episode. All of this was very rushed, without emotional, plot development, etc. At no point is it clear that they had a romantic relationship. That phrase is not conclusive, but First's gestures, looks, silences and words show the opposite. First felt a little uncomfortable with his friend's statement and asked why he liked it. If they had been dating previously, topics like the one contained in this question would have already been discussed, this same question would have already been answered. So his question: “do you really like me?” I'm curious. Why do you like me?”, reiterated twice in the same sentence, would not make sense. By the way, what silly arguments were offered by the friend to answer his questions. And First took up the floor to add something else, but was interrupted. Surely the screenwriter had nothing interesting or important to put in his mouth. What was not said could clarify many things related to the two of them. I don't doubt that First would mean that he loved someone else, therefore his friend's proposal would get them nowhere.
Were First and this new last-minute character dating? Are they exes? As the target audience, we must not only know as many of the characters' personality traits as possible to help us understand them and sympathize with them or not. We must also know their sexuality, especially in a BL series: The characterization process is arduous, since actors, directors and scriptwriters need to work together to create complex and realistic characters that can connect with the audience and make them it connects with them. The characterization of the characters has the function of transforming the actors and actresses into the characters they will play in the play, according to the script. The viewer has to make in his mind a portrait, an image, an idea about the personality of the characters. The screenwriter is in charge of creating and developing fictional characters in a story. To the extent that each character is better developed, with the greatest amount of nuances and psychological complexities, so will their level of emotional connection with the audience. I bring all this up because, if First and this new character are ex-boyfriends, this shows us that we do not know First well, that his character is not well designed, that until the last minute they have not shown us the whole character. For what reasons? Just to cause tensions at the closing time of the series? The same old cliché of turning the story upside down in the penultimate episode to fix everything in a hurry in the next and final episode? Until now we have assumed that both First and Sprite are heterosexual, at most openly gay. We have believed that both of them went on a journey of self-discovery, of acceptance, after Sprite posed as their brother and joined the team. This would all fall apart if First and this new guy were dating.
First is the least of this shows problem. In fact, he's on the low list of my complaints comparatively LOL.
The goal of the series is not to tell the story of First and his father. Is there any predisposition between these? Everything seems to indicate yes, but it is not the main thing in the plot. Will they tell us the reasons? The most possible is that no. As I said, it has no weight in the story. His preference for Zee may be due to a possible crush on the boy's mother's coach, but it is not relevant either, to the point that there is only one episode missing and this, if I remember correctly, was hinted at on one occasion and it didn't go from there. Both the coach and the mother of the twins do not play an insignificant role, to the point that the management of the team is practically assumed by Salmon, and he directs little. She is more involved in the back-and-forth with the two brothers, and now fooling around more thoroughly with one of them. The team works by itself, because the boys know what to do. As for First finding “a situation where he could take down Zee for his father,” I don't think so. First has a crush on Sprite (Zee). He may be hurt, but he can't stop loving the snap of his fingers. First's “reasonings to his father about Zee may be totally valid,” but acting in those circumstances shows pettiness. We should care that he acted angry even if his father didn't care. A lot of damage could have been caused if the father had been in tune to hear it. Furthermore, the fact that his father did not listen to his reasons does not prevent him from repeating them to other receptive ears. First simply should not have discussed this with his father or anyone. He had previously, before the discussion, with Sprite. Ask him where he stays at night (we as the public don't know him either), how he is, if he needs any help... in short, let him act like a boyfriend and not like a spiteful person. But Sprite also has to act as a boyfriend. Ultimately, this is all due to bad writing. Was it said in the series that First and his friend are exes? It didn't seem to me. In the friend's first speech when they sit at the table, according to the translation, he tells First: “It's been a long time since we went out.” This “going out” does not necessarily mean being a couple, but rather going for a walk, going to some public place together. It is known that they became estranged because the friend went to another school, but this does not necessarily mean that they were dating. The friend does confirm that he likes First, but he does not show any interest. He just asks him “do you really like me?” I'm curious. Because you like me?". This kind of takes him by surprise, this doesn't seem to be a topic discussed between the two before. A bit that First later takes advantage of to make Sprite jealous, nothing more. I would like to specify if they were dating, because if so I would have a different view on an aspect that I do not dare to raise until I confirm it.
First is the least of this shows problem. In fact, he's on the low list of my complaints comparatively LOL.
First, Sprite or Zee are not a problem. It's the lousy script of the series. So, in this sense, First does take part of the blame, even though he is a victim of circumstances. I base this on what was already said in the post: First should NOT have biased his father-coach against Zee after what happened to him when he saw him with Salmon. If he had not seen it and if the argument between the two had not occurred, would First have gone to tell him his father? Would you tell him what he told you? I doubt it. The father is clear. That's why he told him to discuss personal things off the field and before the next game. If First is bothered by Sprite not going to the bedroom, he should have talked to him about it. If the two brothers have not returned to normal, that is, if they maintain the deception, why doesn't Sprite sleep in the bedroom or communicate with the man he claims to love? Where do you sleep? Where is? Why is Zee making a constant appearance on the volleyball courts, when his brother is also supposed to be present there at those times? Are they not at risk of being discovered? On the other hand, First accepts his friend's date and his flirtation immediately after the situation created between the two protagonists. Would you accept it if there was no misunderstanding with Zee-Sprite?
First goes to his father, the coach, to bias him against Zee/Sprite out of spite? Wasn't it after your argument with Zee and feeling hurt, rejected by him, that you go to tell the coach that Zee has been acting strange lately and hasn't returned to the dorm for several days? Isn't this selfish and mean behavior? By the way, where has Sprite been sleeping lately? What level of communication and trust do they have when First doesn't know his whereabouts and he doesn't bother to tell her where he is? Does First also act out of spite when he accepts the friend's call and appointment? Why do you accept having your hand held and food offered in your mouth? Is First that fickle? Why Sprite's jealousy when he discovers First with someone else, when he hasn't seen First for several days, hasn't slept next to him, hasn't worried about him? Did you remember that First exists because the two of you happened to meet in a shopping center and you see him with someone else? The attempt to make an analogy by combining the idea of First's breakup and the blackout of the lights that illuminate the letter Z, next to the letter F, the initial of the names of the two boys, between their beds, is ridiculous. Creators, why don't you design believable and empathetic characters? Why don't they tell a believable story?
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Pedophilic disorder is characterized by the presence of recurrent and intense sexually arousing fantasies, impulses, or behaviors related to children (usually up to 13 years of age).
Pedophiles can be attracted to boys, girls, or both sexes, and they can be attracted to only boys or both children and adults.
Doctors diagnose pedophilia when people feel distressed or less able to function well because of their attraction to children or when they have acted on impulses.
Pedophilia is a form of paraphilia. As it causes harm to third parties, it is considered a disorder.
Whether sexual interest or relationships between two people is considered a pedophilic disorder depends on the age of the people involved. In Western societies, a diagnosis of pedophilic disorder requires that the person suffering from it be over 16 years of age and at least 5 years older than the child who is the object of the sexual fantasies or activities. However, sexual involvement between an older adolescent (17 to 18 years old) and a 12 or 13 year old child cannot be considered a disorder. The age criteria used to identify when such activity is considered a crime may differ between cultures.
Although laws vary from country to country, in general terms the law considers that a person over 18 years of age commits statutory rape when they have sexual relations with a person 16 years of age or younger. Rape cases often do not meet the criteria for pedophilia, highlighting the somewhat arbitrary nature of setting an age cut-off point in a medical or legal definition. In many places (including some states in the United States), children as young as 12 to 14 years old can legally marry, making the definition of pedophilia and statutory rape even more complex.
Pedophilia is much more common in men than in women.
Pedophiles can be attracted to boys, girls, or both sexes. It is not clear whether girls or boys are more likely to be victims of pedophiles, although girls appear to be much more likely to be victims of sexual abuse in general.
Typically, the adult is someone the child knows, such as a family member, stepparent, or a person in authority (such as a teacher or coach). Some are attracted only to children within their own family (incest). Some pedophiles are attracted only to children, often of a specific age range or stage of development. Others are attracted to both children and adults.
Activities consisting of observing or touching children appear to be more frequent than genital touching or sexual intercourse.
Pedophile predators may use force or coercion to sexually subdue children, as well as threaten to harm them or their pets if they tell anyone. Many of these pedophiles have antisocial personality disorder.
Many pedophiles have or develop a substance abuse or dependence disorder and depression. They often come from dysfunctional families, and it is very common for them to have marital conflicts. Many have been victims of sexual abuse as children.
I have already said it on other occasions: I would propose to those who see incest or pedophilia in the series, that they be concerned about issues related to the human rights of homosexuals in Japan, Thailand and other countries. I am referring to the illegality of homosexuality even in the 21st century. Same-sex marriage in Japan is illegal and prohibited nationwide, even though homosexual acts between adults, by mutual consent and within the private sphere, were decriminalized in 1880. The Japanese Constitution says that a marriage is It happens between husband and wife. That is, legal marriage occurs only between a man and a woman.
Furthermore, we cannot ignore that the Japanese Parliament unanimously approved, on Friday, June 16, 2023, a series of legislative reforms on sexual crimes. The new law, which includes amendments to the country's Penal Code, raised the age of consent from 13 to 16, and criminalizes any non-consensual sexual relationship (without requiring physical violence or coercion). The reforms facilitate judicial processes for rape and allow voyeurs to be considered criminals. The age of sexual consent in Japan is the lowest among G7 member countries, and is also lower than in China and South Korea, neighboring countries of the archipelago.
While it is true that raising the age of voluntary consent from 13 to 16 would make it difficult for such young victims to bring their attackers to justice, while in many other countries such an act would be directly punishable, this is not the reality of the relationship between these two young characters in the series.
The relationship between Sahara and Toki is just a love affair. I highly doubt a sexual relationship, even consensual, will ever be shown in the series. There is no law that prevents Sahara from falling in love with a boy about three years younger than him, even if he was a little older. The relationship between the two is not marked by pedophilia. The series is an adaptation of a manga published on the author's pixiv account, Toriya Kou, since July 8, 2018, when the age of consent was still 13 years old. The official serialization of the manga began on Gene pixiv on June 21, 2019. The filming process of the series itself began when the age of consent was 13 years old.
Surely you haven't realized, but Toki participates in the “45º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival”, as can be read on a giant sign at the entrance of the school. In the second episode, around minute 14.07, Sahara confesses to Toki that he also participated in the “Treasure Hunt” when he was in his third year of high school. Minutes before (12.22 minutes) a scene shows Sahara reading the brochure of the year in which she participated. It can be read clearly, in Japanese: “42º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival.” That is, Sahara participated three years ago in the same sporting event in which Toki is involved in the present. So the difference in elapsed years between Sahara's participation and Toki's participation in the treasure hunt is only three years. So, they must be three, at most, four years apart in age. Assuming Toki is 16, Sahara must be 19 or 20 at most. And if we consider that it is Toki who is chasing Sahara...
Rather than First and his friend knowing each other's sexuality, I think it would be more correct to say that they imagine it, they conclude it, but without real elements to confirm it. If they haven't talked about it among themselves, they wouldn't be able to know each other's sexuality.
In my opinion, this was the first time that the matter was discussed between the two of them. The new character is the one interested in reintroducing himself into First's life, but not as a friend, but as a lover. When First hears his statement what he does is think of Sprite. He loves Sprite and not anyone else. It is the creators' task to well characterize the characters born from their imagination. If First and Sprite had said something like: “this is my first kiss”, and the other had responded “I have kissed many people, but with you it is different” or, on the contrary, he had responded that it is also his first kiss , everything would be clarified. I, being a thinker, like clear things. I, a hopeless romantic, prefer this last option.
The entry of a new character who has not dared to clarify whether he is an ex or not is hasty to leave the sexuality of one of the protagonists ambiguous, only with the purpose of adding tension at closing time. If he is an ex-boyfriend, then the characterization of the character played by Ryan would have to be noted as very weak, since everything seemed to indicate that First was heterosexual until he fell in love with Sprite, or at least he was a closeted gay, with no previous relationship. , and the love he feels for Sprite gave him the courage to come out of the closet. The arrogant and mean attitude of a Zee with Casanova pretensions, capable of destroying everything in his path while pretending to be a police investigator without success, is also not convincing.
A Sprite playing the fool between his brother and the man he loves is also not convincing. Sprite never again attended training for his favorite sport, ju jitsu, to focus on volleyball, while his brother, who had to replace him on the mat, never even wore a uniform for a fight.
With one episode missing, the reason why the two twins do not have a good relationship and everything is so tense between them is still unknown. It also hurts not to know the reason for the constant tension between Jack and Mike, but it hurts more that these characters have not been developed well and that their romantic relationship has only served to show some sexual dalliances. Luckily, Sam and Thun provide a light touch of humor and hope.
For me it is only important if she had a boyfriend before because of what was expressed in the post: Everything indicates that First and Sprite were not homosexuals. After Sprite joins the team and meets and gets closer to First, they both fall in love. They discovered themselves in the process. They accepted each other as such and declared their love for each other. If they were gay beforehand and had not revealed themselves to us as the audience, with 45 minutes left before the end of the series, it shows a TERRIBLE characterization of the character.
From what First and his friend said, they separated amicably and are now reunited. Does it seem logical to you that a boyfriend abandons the other because he is leaving school, and some time later the one who abandoned calls the abandoned one to tell him that he likes him, and the abandoned, listen once again to the declaration of love that you supposedly heard long ago? Does it seem logical to you that the abandoned person does not show any sign of anger, discomfort, or anger towards the ex-boyfriend who left him without any explanation? Does it seem logical to you that there is no sign of regret on the part of the boyfriend who abandoned the other and now returns as if nothing had happened to ask him to resume the courtship and pretend that nothing happened here? Don't you think it would be totally shameless for the boyfriend who abandoned the other to come now and ask him, “Let's start over because I like you a lot. Let's make a clean slate”?
What did First do when he heard the boy's statement? He remained impassive, as if it were not with him. And he asked him: “Do you really like me? I'm curious. Because you like me?". Let's imagine that they were boyfriend and girlfriend. Wouldn't First then know why he likes her? Wouldn't First know the answer to that question? Of course. They would talk about this topic in the past. Anyway, I don't think they were dating. But if they were dating, absolutely nothing happens. Simply put, this fact alone would demonstrate the terrible writing of the script, since we, as an audience, do not know who First is.
What evidence is there that First and Sprite were homosexual before they met? With just one test I would be satisfied. But my post aims to highlight other, much more important issues. It's not my priority to determine whether First had a boyfriend or not, the number of boyfriends, whether she lost her virginity in high school or her freshman year of college, or whether her first kiss was with the 6-and-a-half-foot-tall guy across the street or the fat guy with wide glasses down the alley. These are insignificant issues. My interest is to point out the mediocrity of the scripts, because at the end of the series we discover, having been dating, that we do not know the characters.
Two boyfriends would stay together, if they wanted, even if one of them transferred schools. Two friends too. Although, of course, it would change the fact of not seeing each other so often, of maintaining a long-distance relationship. None of this has been told. Namely, they parted ways amicably. If they had a loving relationship, they were able to maintain it in these new circumstances. I see it as a way for the creators to add tension, lengthen the series, test First and Sprite's love, incorporate the drama of the penultimate episode. All of this was very rushed, without emotional, plot development, etc. At no point is it clear that they had a romantic relationship. That phrase is not conclusive, but First's gestures, looks, silences and words show the opposite. First felt a little uncomfortable with his friend's statement and asked why he liked it. If they had been dating previously, topics like the one contained in this question would have already been discussed, this same question would have already been answered. So his question: “do you really like me?” I'm curious. Why do you like me?”, reiterated twice in the same sentence, would not make sense. By the way, what silly arguments were offered by the friend to answer his questions. And First took up the floor to add something else, but was interrupted. Surely the screenwriter had nothing interesting or important to put in his mouth. What was not said could clarify many things related to the two of them. I don't doubt that First would mean that he loved someone else, therefore his friend's proposal would get them nowhere.
Was it said in the series that First and his friend are exes? It didn't seem to me. In the friend's first speech when they sit at the table, according to the translation, he tells First: “It's been a long time since we went out.” This “going out” does not necessarily mean being a couple, but rather going for a walk, going to some public place together. It is known that they became estranged because the friend went to another school, but this does not necessarily mean that they were dating. The friend does confirm that he likes First, but he does not show any interest. He just asks him “do you really like me?” I'm curious. Because you like me?". This kind of takes him by surprise, this doesn't seem to be a topic discussed between the two before. A bit that First later takes advantage of to make Sprite jealous, nothing more. I would like to specify if they were dating, because if so I would have a different view on an aspect that I do not dare to raise until I confirm it.