In last week's episode, Phaya learned that Tharn talks to the doctor about personal things in his life. For this reason, rightly so, Phaya got upset and stopped talking to him. It was evident how Tharn then pursued him, seeking his forgiveness. Phaya did not stop worrying about Tharn despite keeping her distance. When faced with the aggression of a criminal, his primary reaction was to put his own body as a shield and protect Tharn. As he was beaten in the confrontation with Narong, Phaya healed him and restored the broken bond. This week Tharn decides to go to dinner with the doctor. He is unaware of what Phaya suspects regarding the doctor. In episode 6, Tharn once again takes the doctor's side, knowing in advance Phaya's possible reaction: he will stop talking to him, he will walk away angry, jealous, and it will be up to him to go after Phaya and insist that she forgive him. How long with the same trope repeated over and over again? Don't the creators have other plots, other dramatic turns? Is Tharn in love with Phaya or not? Is it jealousy that you intend to give them? Isn't that your intention? Well, you'll have to propose it seriously. Why then make them jealous with another man? Is she so childish that she has not appreciated that her own happiness and that of the man she loves is at stake? If he loves Phaya, wouldn't he have to make his feelings clear to the doctor so that he respects both of them? Have you put two men in a fight to win your love as part of a game? Does he act this way because he is naive? What person in love puts the relationship with the person they love at risk due to whims or tantrums, which are already repeated and tiring? Who can convince me that Tharn is not suffering from a tantrum and childishness? If Tharn's goal is to avoid a relationship with Phaya because, according to the prediction, falling in love would endanger the life of the person he loves, why is he not honest and tells Phaya that he does not love him? The prophecy says “to the person you love or the groom”? If it's the person he loves, Phaya would be in danger just for being the one he loves. It is not necessary to become Tharn's boyfriend. What is his justification for playing with Phaya's feelings? But do you really not accept being in love because of a prediction? So why does he accept all of his friends' jokes and insinuations about it? Don't everyone know about your feelings? How is it that they manage to know about Tharn's feelings, if not because he himself has revealed them or leaves them latent before others, perhaps without realizing that he was doing so? How after witnessing Phaya's fight with the doctor and beating him himself, he went to have dinner with the latter? Wouldn't you be sending a strong message if you don't go to dinner at that time, get out of the car and just go home? Tharn must realize that the discussion of whether “you put Thar in danger or you did not put him in danger” is up to him to settle, making the right decisions to end the discussion, which has also become tedious because it is tiring. and repetitive. Tharn has to realize that the basis of the argument is, above all, jealousy, although in addition to this Phaya suspects the perversity surrounding the doctor. They both desire Tharn, although not for the same reasons. That is why you must take sides. Phaya, and when are you going to put Dao in its rightful place? Well, she has done her job of making Thar jealous.
Taku-chan was raised by Todo's parents when he was twelve years old and became an orphan. There is not the slightest…
Hahaha. Your lack of arguments is evident. Your response is the typical evasion as you have no way to respond. The text is not much. Yes, there is a lack of restraint, a lack of coherence, a lack of logic and reasoning... but on your part. What is a lot are the manifest demands of everyone that you not affirm what you do not know. In plain English: Don't you like Japanese BL? Or are you afraid that the series will obtain higher ratings than the series you prefer and this will mean that it will displace the series that you want to be well positioned in the acceptance ranking? Have you been able to read and, above all, analyze the comments of others? I see that you no longer attack the alleged incest much. You have focused on the also alleged pedophilia.
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It's what I imagined: you assumed everything without having seen anything, according to what you yourself assure in your words. What doesn't seem acceptable to you? That a student falls in love with his teacher? Until this very moment, all there is is a student in love with his teacher. I have an analysis published 10 hours ago. I recommend you read it: I read some comments that talk about pedophilia and incest in the series. In my opinion, there is neither one nor the other. Todo and Taku-chan are not really related. Taku was orphaned at the age of twelve and Todo's parents, friends of Taku's parents, took it upon themselves to raise him as their own son, but no degree of consanguinity unites the two. We do not know the ages of Sahara and Toki. It has only been said that Sahara is a teacher and this has set off alarm bells for some. Toki must be 16 or 17 years old. This can be inferred from the data that is revealed to us about the protagonists. In the first episode, Sahara takes Toki to the classroom where he studies Todo and introduces him as a third-year student. Sahara tells Toki that Todo is one (school) year older than him. So, Toki is in his second year of high school. In Japan's secondary schools, young people between the ages of 15 and 18 study. The age of majority in Japan is 18 years old. Furthermore, the age for consensual sex in Japan was recently raised from 13 to 16. According to Japanese laws, if Toki were only 16 years old, she can have consensual sex. Has Toki repeated a year for being a bad student? If so, he would be older than supposed. He could then be in his last year of high school, and even have finished it. Has Sahara already graduated from University? Isn't he at school as a substitute teacher? He may not have graduated yet. Undergraduate courses in Japan are generally 4 years long, except for Medicine and other cases in which the duration is 6 years. The Teaching degree (it seems to be Sahara's) lasts only 4 years. Given all this “uncertainty”, we must resort to a fundamental clue. Toki participates in the “45º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival”, as can be read on a giant sign at the entrance of the school. In the second episode, around minute 14.07, Sahara confesses to Toki that he also participated in the “Treasure Hunt” when he was in his third year of high school. Minutes before (12.22 minutes) a scene shows Sahara reading the brochure of the year in which she participated. It can be read clearly, in Japanese: “42º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival.” That is, Sahara participated three years ago in the same sporting event in which Toki is involved in the present. So the difference in elapsed years between Sahara's participation and Toki's participation in the treasure hunt is only three years. So, they must be three, at most, four years apart in age. Assuming Toki is 16, Sahara must be 19 or 20 at most. And if we consider that it is Toki who is chasing Sahara or... I would propose to those who see incest or pedophilia in the series, to be concerned about issues related to the human rights of homosexuals in Japan, Thailand and other countries. I am referring to the illegality of homosexuality even in the 21st century. Same-sex marriage in Japan is illegal and prohibited nationwide, even though homosexual acts between adults, by mutual consent and within the private sphere, were decriminalized in 1880. The Japanese Constitution says that a marriage is It happens between husband and wife. That is, legal marriage occurs only between a man and a woman.
What was stopping Charlie from confessing to Babe who he is, his reasons for approaching him and everything else from the first moment? Wasn't your original intention to alert and protect Babe? How can we not let him know all this information then? Why didn't he do it with so many opportunities he had to do so? Did Charlie escape Tony's influence? How is it possible then that Ton trusts him again and summons him for what? Why did you summon him? so Babe could see it? Did Tony let Charlie go after learning that his plans are in jeopardy when Babe discovers the ties between him and Charlie? Didn't you see them arguing? Is there a link between Tony and Charlie? How is it possible that Tony and top-secret millionaires discuss top-secret topics in a public space, where anyone has access to it? In the midst of all this, what role does Jeff play? Did he also rebel against Tony and agree to help Babe? How did Charlie and Jeff know about Babe and the tensions between him and Tony? How is it possible for an employer to let one of his employees go without consequences, after investing large sums of money in contracts, without demanding financial objections? Isn't Kim a potential danger to Tony with so much information in her possession? And let it go easily? How did Kim know the time, place, and that Charlie would be at Tony's top-secret meeting with the billionaires, a meeting that was supposed to happen behind closed doors or on a yacht at sea or in an underground bunker? With the story half done, did Babe trust Charlie again? Charlie, Babe would hate you if you kept the truth from him, not revealed it to him. How is it that Charlie is free to move freely around the Foundation and go to the Sacred Place where files on Tony's adopted children and who knows what other mysteries are jealously kept?
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I don't think the debate about Last Twilight has any reason to exist anymore. I assure you that Day loved August and not Mohk, that the kiss did not seem relevant to me at that moment when Day was vulnerable and hurt by what had happened, that she would have other moments to confess her love like Day if she heard her, and someone assured that Day never loved August and only loved Day, despite Day's confessions to the contrary. They even said that from episode one to 5 Day she fell in love with Mohk, but from then on she resumed her romance with the other boy and after what happened she restarted her love relationship with Mohk. This is savagery.
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I really like Last Twilight. I finished watching episode 8 right now, less than five minutes in. Sea is a good actor. I also liked his performance in Vice Versa, and the series did not have a good script. There are good vibes in both boys. Jimmy has grown as an actor, but he still needs to mature. I really liked him in Bad Buddy.
I read some comments that talk about pedophilia and incest in the series. In my opinion, there is neither one nor the other. Todo and Taku-chan are not really related. Taku was orphaned at the age of twelve and Todo's parents, friends of Taku's parents, took it upon themselves to raise him as their own son. The two are not linked by any blood relationship. We do not know the ages of Sahara and Toki. It has only been said that Sahara is a teacher and this has set off alarm bells for some. Toki must be 16 or 17 years old. This can be inferred from the data that is revealed to us about the protagonists. In the first episode, Sahara takes Toki to the classroom where he studies Todo and introduces him as a third-year student. Sahara tells Toki that Todo is one (school) year older than him. So, Toki is in his second year of high school. In Japan's secondary schools, young people between the ages of 15 and 18 study. The age of majority in Japan is 18 years old. Furthermore, the age for consensual sex in Japan was raised in June 2023 from 13 to 16 years old. Was the manga written when the age of consensual sex was 13? According to Japanese laws, if Toki were only 16 years old, she can have consensual sex without breaking laws. But don't worry, the series won't come to this. It only shows the falling in love of two young people. However, would I be violating other laws? Has Toki repeated a year for being a bad student? If so, he would be older than supposed. He could already be in his last year of high school, and even have finished it. Has Sahara already graduated from University? Isn't he at school as a substitute teacher? It is possible that he has not graduated yet and has returned to help because he was a brilliant graduate of the same school. Undergraduate courses in Japan are generally 4 years long, with the exception of Medicine and other cases in which the duration is 6 years. The Teaching degree (it seems to be Sahara's) lasts only 4 years. If Sahara had already graduated and Toki was in his second year without repeating years, the age difference would be six or seven years. Given all this “uncertainty” we must resort to a fundamental clue. Toki participates in the “45º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival”, as can be read on a giant sign at the entrance of the school. In the second episode, around minute 14.07, Sahara confesses to Toki that he also participated in the “Treasure Hunt” when he was in his third year of high school. Minutes before (12.22 minutes) a scene shows Sahara reading the call form for the year in which he participated. It can be read clearly, in Japanese: “42º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival.” That is, Sahara participated three years ago in the same sporting event in which Toki is involved in the present. So the difference in elapsed years between Sahara's participation and Toki's participation in the treasure hunt is only three years. So, they must be only three years apart in age. Assuming Toki is 16 years old, Sahara must be 19 years old at most. Would we be in the presence of a pedophile relationship? Wouldn't Toki be the one who should be accused of harassing the naive Sahara and chasing him around the school and surrounding areas? Because if there is a scoundrel in the series, no one doubts it, it is Toki. I am left with his gaze at Sahara loaded with a mixture of love and shyness. I stick with his confession to Todo when he surprised him by asking him if he liked Icchan: “What if that's the case? “I like what I like.” I would propose to those who are bothered by the alleged incest or pedophilia in the series to worry about issues related to the human rights of homosexuals in Japan, Thailand and other countries. I am referring to the illegality of homosexuality even in the 21st century. Same-sex marriage in Japan is illegal and prohibited nationwide, even though homosexual acts between adults, by mutual consent and within the private sphere, were decriminalized in 1880. The Japanese Constitution says that a marriage is It happens between husband and wife. That is, legal marriage occurs only between a man and a woman. This conflicts with the Constitution itself, which establishes that there can be no discrimination based on sex. I would suggest that you be concerned that homosexuals in Japan do not even have the right to live together under the same roof legally, or to adopt children, among many other aspects. Some cities issue "cohabitation certificates" that are used by homosexuals so that one of the members of the couple can rent an apartment and the other can obtain "relative" status. Homosexuals do not have any legal basis that allows them to leave inheritances or health insurance to their loved one in the event of their death. One way a gay couple can acquire that "direct relative" status is, get this, for one to adopt the other.
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In the first episode of Pisces of Me, starting at about 26:30, Thod asks Kun where he's staying in Bangkok. When Kun asks him the same question, his response is: “Maybe I'll move in with my brother (…) He's not my real brother. “He is a close friend of the family.” Given the doubts about whether “his brother” is prepared to allow him to live with him, there is another option: “Maybe I should look for a shared bedroom with you,” he refers to Kun. And he ends: “I will keep it as plan B.” For Thod his relationship with Nick is a priority. Kun is the one who holds Thod's hand while they wash the dishes after dinner. Kun is the one who kisses Thod. A moment of “weakness or confusion” in Thod (with this in quotes I mean if he is in love with Nick he shouldn't go after Kun) causes him to put his hand close to Kun's, look at him, and allow himself to be kissed. There is no other close moment between Thod and Kun in the rest of the series. In the following episode Thod appears only in two moments: when he invites the twins to lunch as an apology for not having gone to the tutoring and when he accompanies them to be told the future. In the first Korn gets upset and leaves and Kun gets up from the table and runs after his brother. Abandon Thod. In the other scene Thod doesn't even speak. Enter the premises last, close the door and listen to the “seer”. The magic between them either never was such or it disappeared. It is evident that the relationship between the two never existed. They never talk about the kiss, they don't express feelings, they don't make promises or make plans for a shared future.
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Thod leaves childhood behind and enters youth. According to the laws of your country, you are still a minor. The minimum age to understand a sexual relationship as consensual varies by country and culture. Furthermore, I don't think the series is trying to show a sexual relationship, consensual or not, but rather the falling in love between two boys. Original or little treated in Thai BL series is a romantic relationship marked by the age difference of the protagonists and the fact that one is a minor. Thod lives a stage of life in which the person is searching for himself, building his identity, his personality. Thod is able to choose the person he loves. His choice is Nick and not Kun, despite him being the same age and with whom he would have much more in common than what he could have with Nick. Thod is in a phase where he is no longer a child, but he is not an adult either. It is normal to be curious about the changes that are being experienced in the body. This is the stage in which the adolescent begins to feel attracted to new sensations, to people of the same or the opposite sex. Despite this being a stage in which “hormones go crazy” and adolescents can become impulsive due to that need or curiosity to experiment, we see in Thod a very psychologically balanced boy, a very mature young man. He is not impulsive. You have taken your time to think and evaluate the steps to follow according to what your own “I” dictates. For his part, Nick does not violate the situation, he gives it his space and time, he does not rush decisions or scenarios. These two stories are the ones I liked the most in the entire series.
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Hello. The three of us agree that there is no incest in “Spices of Me.” The series in general has had many ups and downs. I didn't like many stories or they faltered at the end. That's why I try to check beforehand if I might like the next story. I came to “Spices of Me” thinking about the possibility that it could show incest, based on comments from other people on different platforms or social networks, such as MDL. Just because I don't like a relationship of this type (nor a pedophile one) doesn't mean that I'm going to be against an artistic fact, an audiovisual product that may have the objective of raising awareness about certain taboo or illegal topics, making a problem visible. Dadaist. I have seen excellent films, especially Western ones, that masterfully address both incest and pedophilia. I remember that one of the comments stated that the first images showed two boys in a bathtub, very loving. The commenter went on to say that he thought they were a couple, and suddenly, upon finding out they were twins, he became disappointed and stopped watching the story. The fact that they took a bath together, that their mother took them out of the bathroom knocking on the door and telling them to hurry up, that dinner is served, shows the close relationship of camaraderie, of complicity, that exists between Kun and Korn. From what we have seen in “1626”, the story of Kun and Thod will not be resumed. This relationship never took place. I do not consider what happened in “Spices…” to have been a “disaster.” Everything seems to indicate a one-sided love: Kun loves Thod, but Thod loves and does not forget Nick and goes to meet them again. This part of the story is what is told now. There are studies on twins, especially from psychology and sociology. Generally, the authors agree on the level of dependency that develops between the two siblings: one of the siblings (it does not have to be the younger of the two) will be more fragile, vulnerable and dependent on the other. This dependency develops from the cradle. Parents greatly influence this by, for example, dressing them both in the same clothes, by putting a similar hat on their heads, the one that neither of them is missing in the photo, by trying to get them to do the same activities or games. from early ages. One gets sick and the other feels the same symptoms, even if they are on the other side of the country or the world. In reality, one can become a virtuoso musician and the other a car mechanic, also a virtuoso, two professions that are not at all related. I see the reading of the future as a call to Kun and Korn to separate their destinies so they can be happy. When they separate, they may feel unhappy, hurt, the feeling that one is abandoning the other, but in the long run they could develop their characters and personalities freely and be happy. If in 1626 a good story were told (I hope so, I like the screenwriter, who is the same author of both stories), and they decided to tell us a romance between Nick and Thod, if the writing is clean, tactful , I wouldn't see it as bad. It could be a good play. I don't think Thod is confused nor is he being manipulated by Nick. We are not in the presence of a pedophile disorder, much less rape. There is no child sexual abuse. These are very delicate topics with many edges. Not even scholars have agreed on many aspects. That is why it would be illogical to discuss a topic of this magnitude in a comment, especially if I am not a specialist. Part of the story is missing until the closing. But everything seems to indicate that Nick, the adult in this relationship, is choosing to have a loving relationship (reciprocated, too), and is not seeking to satisfy his sexual impulses or perverse inclinations to possess a newly developed adolescent body. This is condemnable. It is illegal. When an adult tries to have a person in this way, it is also called objectifying. In a case like this we would be in the presence of treating the person as an object, a thing. And I don't think this is the case. Let's wait for the end of the story.
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You're probably wondering why I wanted to know if you watched “Last Twilight.” I am debating right now, and for almost three weeks, about this series in MDL. If I have not told you anything about the topic under debate and the positions of the forum members, it is because you are behind. I wouldn't want to reveal what happened to you.
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Greetings. I understood from the first moment that you don't consider "Pisces of Me" to be about incest. I also understood your position of not considering the relationship between Nick and Top as pedophilic and as a story about ephebophilia. In both aspects we agree. I read many comments on MDL and other platforms in which several people suggested not watching the story because it showed a pedophile relationship.
There is nothing wrong with the fact that Day loved another boy and after the breakup or disappointment (as was the case after learning August's true intentions) she stopped loving him, moved on with her life and then fell in love with him. another boy. Isn't this precisely what happens in life itself? Who is free or can be free from suffering disappointment? Does the world stop when this happens? Day loved August long before Mohk came into her life. He himself confessed to Mohk on three different occasions. That is, Mohk knew about Day's sexuality and also knew who he loved. On one of these occasions, August himself heard Day admit that he was in love with him. Circumstances (namely, Day's need for a caregiver due to her blindness, and Mohk's need to find a job where he could get enough money quickly to get his late sister's car back as soon as possible) were the reasons. that forced Day and Mohk to meet. In another hypothetical scenario, it is most likely that they would never meet each other and, therefore, they would never fall in love. The character played by Sea is not unreal. We can find it perfectly in any human being. Day is a human being with his flaws and virtues, like everyone else. Therefore, we should not idealize him. Weren't each and every one of Day's actions aimed at confessing his love to Agust from the moment he that August returned to his life after a time without seeing each other? Both explicitly and implicitly his intentions were clearly reflected in the series. Didn't Day have Mohk's help to try to win over August? This speaks very well about Mohk, since he is capable of putting the happiness of the boy he loves before his own.
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I read your comment carefully: it is true that it cannot be stated exactly that Thod was pursuing Kun. It is Kun who begins to be close to Thod, who kisses him. That is why it strikes me that Thod, if he has no feelings for him and does for Nick, has not been frank with Kun to tell him that he loves someone else. Even in episode 19 of the series, the first from 1626, Kun practically grabs Thod's hands in the classroom when he is trying to read the encrypted message, and Thod does not prevent him. Everything seems to indicate that Kun has unrequited feelings for Thod. As I told you before, I don't see incest in any of the twins' actions. And if incest is questionable, the pedophilia that could underlie “1626” is reprehensible, but I do not perceive it either, despite the notable age difference between the two protagonists, such as the fact that one of them is a minor (16 years). Until now, hidden, because it has not been clearly exposed, you can perceive the real love of two boys, and love does not understand age nor other factors, such as gender, religion, skin color... Your explanation allowed me to understand why two of the characters in “Pisces of Me” are part of this story. “1626” gives him a follow-up in a certain way, but not from the perspective of Kun, the other brother, who was missing because it was from the prism of Korn that that story was told. “I really liked “Pisces of Me” and I liked the first part of 1626.” I believe that the confusion or doubts are based on the fact that I start from the preconceived idea that all stories are independent. It is true that some characters from one story appear in another, but not to have “their” story told, but to serve as support for the protagonists of the new story. For the first time these two stories are mixed in some way, although they are also separated. Are you watching Last Twilight?
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August may not agree with everything expressed, I liked how you defended your ideas. I don't see incest anywhere. Just a close relationship of two twins. I will read your comment carefully. Greetings.
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The birthday party date wasn't Day and Mohk's. Mohk only fulfilled his job as a companion or caregiver. The party was organized by August. Mohk left the party as soon as he arrived and was able to see how Day celebrated, celebrated and was happy surrounded by his friends, especially August, the protagonist of the party. Mohk did not even accept the cake because he understood the hidden message behind it. It's paradoxical: if August saw Day only as a friend, why did he act this way, pushing Mohk away, telling him that his work was done and he would take care of Day from then on? During the dinner, the toasts, the photos, etc., Day did not notice Mohk's absence. It was late into the night when Day realized that Mohk was not present. During the party he didn't ask August for help, but Gee. It's true: he had just suffered the mishap in which drink was spilled on him. His reaction is that of someone who thought that if Mohk had been by his side, such a setback would not have happened. Did he blame August? Did he blame himself? We won't know. The above indicates that Day sees Mohk in those moments only as his caregiver, as the person who must protect him, not as the loved one. He didn't even call him on the phone. Go to Gee. Day did not kiss Mohk. In truth, it was Mohk who kissed Day. And Day reciprocated. Mohk used a moment of Day's vulnerability to kiss him and confess his love. Did Day act out of spite, out of resentment at being rejected by August? We won't know. The series does not set out to tell it. In episode 7, starting at minute 16, Day asks Mohk to find him a coffee. It is the moment when he is alone with Gee to tell him: “Phi Mohk likes me.” And to her astonishment, he tells her: “He (Mohk) kissed me.” It's true that Gee told Day to fire Mohk if he didn't have feelings for him, but you're missing an important element: Gee ignores all of reality. Gee only knows about the kiss Mohk gave Day. But he doesn't know everything else. Day took it upon himself to hide from Gee that he loved August and that Mohk knew of this unrequited love. Nor did Day tell Gee about her two kisses with August, first the one given by August and then the one Day gave her.
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There are ten emotions: Joy, Gratitude, Serenity, Interest, Hope, Inspiration, Love and Pride. I don't doubt that Day has feelings for Mohk, but not exactly romantic ones. You say, “Day doesn't owe August anything to be together.” I have never implied that Day owes him anything. Love is not driven by a person feeling indebted to another person. There are many other reasons to love besides a debt of gratitude. If anything, Day owes it to himself for not having confessed his love to August when he had time, when he was still seeing. I'm not saying this. Day himself says it. Day never hesitates when he claims to love August. Day confesses his feelings for August to Mohk three times: In episode 5, starting at minute 57.38, in the restaurant where they returned after the failed date, Day talks about August. Mohk asks him: “If this wasn't about badminton, I'd think you were talking about your ex.” And Day responds: “Phi, when I was at the restaurant today, I felt like a broken-hearted man. “I think I really like it.” This is Day's first confession about who the person he loves is. And Day continues: “It's a shame. “I should have told him earlier, when I could still see his face.” At this moment everything seems to indicate that Mohk is going to confess his love and give her the sunflower. But along comes August, who overhears Day ask Mohk, “Shocked to find out I like August”? That is, both Mohk and August know about Day's sexuality and they also know that Day loves August. This is the second time Day has confessed her love for August. In the 6th episode, starting at minute 57.14, in the place where Mohk takes Day after August's kiss, Day confesses his love for August again. He talks about the birthday party, the kiss, and the outburst after August's hurtful revelation. He says: “And someone I've always been in love with came to kiss me... I'm very lucky to be blind...”. You raise as evidence of Day's love for Mohk the fact that “He used his 10 seconds to see Mhok's face.” I've given my opinion before: Day doesn't need his 10 seconds to see the face of August, his mother, his brother, Gee, or anyone else close to him. Day knows everyone's faces except Mohk's. Gee has told him on several occasions about how handsome Mohk is. In episode 4, starting at 21.35 minutes, after the reunion of Gee and Day when he went to see her during her training, Gee takes Day's hand and walks with him, separating from Mohk. “Have you seen his face before?” Day tells him that with those blind eyes he can't see him. And Gee responds: “You said you can still see up close.” Gee looks in Mohk's direction again and tells Day: “Spoiler alert: not only is her voice pretty, but so is her face. “It is eye candy.” Starting at minute 52 of that same 4th episode, Mohk sings in the bar where they went. Gee is next to Day sitting at the table. Gee tells him “I think he's looking at you (…) He can't stop smiling at you. His savagery aside, I think he's fine. He doesn't look like a caregiver at all. I repeat, it is eye candy.” In the following scenes, when they both return home and Mohk lies down on the floor, Day pours the drops into his eyes and goes to satisfy the curiosity he feels to see Mohk's face, but it is not necessarily out of love. A mixture of Joy, Gratitude, Serenity, Interest, Hope, Inspiration and Pride can drive you, but not love. Day loves August in those moments. The evidence that confirms the latter is offered to us by Day himself when, from that moment on, he tries to conquer August and repeatedly confesses his love for him.
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Thanks for the comment, but it doesn't clear my doubts, it creates other ones for me. You're right. I forgot or did not take into account this fact described by you (allow me to call you). But this would add more fuel to the fire and creates new doubts in me. If Tod had feelings for Nick, why approach Kun, kiss him and have a romantic relationship with him, as I said, not well developed because the plot of Piesces of Me focused on the two brothers?
👀What are you on about????Day clearly is in love with Mhok since the beginning. Sea(Day's actor) confirmed…
I believe in Day's ethics. I don't consider Day as a guy who can play with other people's feelings. I don't conceive that I can be loving two boys at the same time, or love one and play with another. Nor do I think it is accurate to think that he had been in love with Mohk or had developed feelings for Mohk until the moment August reappeared in his life, and this caused his feelings for Mohk to fall asleep in him (so to speak) and his feelings for Mohk were rekindled. feelings for August. I wouldn't speak highly of Day. Day is interested in meeting Mohk. Mohk is a mystery to him. Of all the people around Day, Mohk is the only one unknown to Day. He has never seen her face or her body. That's why your interest in getting to know him. I haven't tried to make it seem like Day didn't have any feelings for Mhok before EP7. Day himself takes care of this, admitting on several occasions that he is in love not with Mohk, but with another boy.
Tharn must realize that the discussion of whether “you put Thar in danger or you did not put him in danger” is up to him to settle, making the right decisions to end the discussion, which has also become tedious because it is tiring. and repetitive. Tharn has to realize that the basis of the argument is, above all, jealousy, although in addition to this Phaya suspects the perversity surrounding the doctor. They both desire Tharn, although not for the same reasons. That is why you must take sides.
Phaya, and when are you going to put Dao in its rightful place? Well, she has done her job of making Thar jealous.
I read some comments that talk about pedophilia and incest in the series. In my opinion, there is neither one nor the other. Todo and Taku-chan are not really related. Taku was orphaned at the age of twelve and Todo's parents, friends of Taku's parents, took it upon themselves to raise him as their own son, but no degree of consanguinity unites the two.
We do not know the ages of Sahara and Toki. It has only been said that Sahara is a teacher and this has set off alarm bells for some. Toki must be 16 or 17 years old. This can be inferred from the data that is revealed to us about the protagonists. In the first episode, Sahara takes Toki to the classroom where he studies Todo and introduces him as a third-year student. Sahara tells Toki that Todo is one (school) year older than him. So, Toki is in his second year of high school. In Japan's secondary schools, young people between the ages of 15 and 18 study. The age of majority in Japan is 18 years old. Furthermore, the age for consensual sex in Japan was recently raised from 13 to 16. According to Japanese laws, if Toki were only 16 years old, she can have consensual sex.
Has Toki repeated a year for being a bad student? If so, he would be older than supposed. He could then be in his last year of high school, and even have finished it. Has Sahara already graduated from University? Isn't he at school as a substitute teacher? He may not have graduated yet. Undergraduate courses in Japan are generally 4 years long, except for Medicine and other cases in which the duration is 6 years. The Teaching degree (it seems to be Sahara's) lasts only 4 years.
Given all this “uncertainty”, we must resort to a fundamental clue. Toki participates in the “45º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival”, as can be read on a giant sign at the entrance of the school. In the second episode, around minute 14.07, Sahara confesses to Toki that he also participated in the “Treasure Hunt” when he was in his third year of high school. Minutes before (12.22 minutes) a scene shows Sahara reading the brochure of the year in which she participated. It can be read clearly, in Japanese: “42º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival.” That is, Sahara participated three years ago in the same sporting event in which Toki is involved in the present. So the difference in elapsed years between Sahara's participation and Toki's participation in the treasure hunt is only three years. So, they must be three, at most, four years apart in age. Assuming Toki is 16, Sahara must be 19 or 20 at most. And if we consider that it is Toki who is chasing Sahara or...
I would propose to those who see incest or pedophilia in the series, to be concerned about issues related to the human rights of homosexuals in Japan, Thailand and other countries. I am referring to the illegality of homosexuality even in the 21st century. Same-sex marriage in Japan is illegal and prohibited nationwide, even though homosexual acts between adults, by mutual consent and within the private sphere, were decriminalized in 1880. The Japanese Constitution says that a marriage is It happens between husband and wife. That is, legal marriage occurs only between a man and a woman.
With the story half done, did Babe trust Charlie again? Charlie, Babe would hate you if you kept the truth from him, not revealed it to him. How is it that Charlie is free to move freely around the Foundation and go to the Sacred Place where files on Tony's adopted children and who knows what other mysteries are jealously kept?
Sea is a good actor. I also liked his performance in Vice Versa, and the series did not have a good script. There are good vibes in both boys. Jimmy has grown as an actor, but he still needs to mature. I really liked him in Bad Buddy.
We do not know the ages of Sahara and Toki. It has only been said that Sahara is a teacher and this has set off alarm bells for some. Toki must be 16 or 17 years old. This can be inferred from the data that is revealed to us about the protagonists. In the first episode, Sahara takes Toki to the classroom where he studies Todo and introduces him as a third-year student. Sahara tells Toki that Todo is one (school) year older than him. So, Toki is in his second year of high school. In Japan's secondary schools, young people between the ages of 15 and 18 study. The age of majority in Japan is 18 years old. Furthermore, the age for consensual sex in Japan was raised in June 2023 from 13 to 16 years old. Was the manga written when the age of consensual sex was 13? According to Japanese laws, if Toki were only 16 years old, she can have consensual sex without breaking laws. But don't worry, the series won't come to this. It only shows the falling in love of two young people. However, would I be violating other laws?
Has Toki repeated a year for being a bad student? If so, he would be older than supposed. He could already be in his last year of high school, and even have finished it. Has Sahara already graduated from University? Isn't he at school as a substitute teacher? It is possible that he has not graduated yet and has returned to help because he was a brilliant graduate of the same school. Undergraduate courses in Japan are generally 4 years long, with the exception of Medicine and other cases in which the duration is 6 years. The Teaching degree (it seems to be Sahara's) lasts only 4 years. If Sahara had already graduated and Toki was in his second year without repeating years, the age difference would be six or seven years.
Given all this “uncertainty” we must resort to a fundamental clue. Toki participates in the “45º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival”, as can be read on a giant sign at the entrance of the school. In the second episode, around minute 14.07, Sahara confesses to Toki that he also participated in the “Treasure Hunt” when he was in his third year of high school. Minutes before (12.22 minutes) a scene shows Sahara reading the call form for the year in which he participated. It can be read clearly, in Japanese: “42º. Seiruy High School Sports Festival.” That is, Sahara participated three years ago in the same sporting event in which Toki is involved in the present. So the difference in elapsed years between Sahara's participation and Toki's participation in the treasure hunt is only three years. So, they must be only three years apart in age. Assuming Toki is 16 years old, Sahara must be 19 years old at most. Would we be in the presence of a pedophile relationship? Wouldn't Toki be the one who should be accused of harassing the naive Sahara and chasing him around the school and surrounding areas? Because if there is a scoundrel in the series, no one doubts it, it is Toki. I am left with his gaze at Sahara loaded with a mixture of love and shyness. I stick with his confession to Todo when he surprised him by asking him if he liked Icchan: “What if that's the case? “I like what I like.”
I would propose to those who are bothered by the alleged incest or pedophilia in the series to worry about issues related to the human rights of homosexuals in Japan, Thailand and other countries. I am referring to the illegality of homosexuality even in the 21st century. Same-sex marriage in Japan is illegal and prohibited nationwide, even though homosexual acts between adults, by mutual consent and within the private sphere, were decriminalized in 1880. The Japanese Constitution says that a marriage is It happens between husband and wife. That is, legal marriage occurs only between a man and a woman. This conflicts with the Constitution itself, which establishes that there can be no discrimination based on sex.
I would suggest that you be concerned that homosexuals in Japan do not even have the right to live together under the same roof legally, or to adopt children, among many other aspects. Some cities issue "cohabitation certificates" that are used by homosexuals so that one of the members of the couple can rent an apartment and the other can obtain "relative" status. Homosexuals do not have any legal basis that allows them to leave inheritances or health insurance to their loved one in the event of their death. One way a gay couple can acquire that "direct relative" status is, get this, for one to adopt the other.
Everything seems to indicate a one-sided love: Kun loves Thod, but Thod loves and does not forget Nick and goes to meet them again. This part of the story is what is told now. There are studies on twins, especially from psychology and sociology. Generally, the authors agree on the level of dependency that develops between the two siblings: one of the siblings (it does not have to be the younger of the two) will be more fragile, vulnerable and dependent on the other. This dependency develops from the cradle. Parents greatly influence this by, for example, dressing them both in the same clothes, by putting a similar hat on their heads, the one that neither of them is missing in the photo, by trying to get them to do the same activities or games. from early ages. One gets sick and the other feels the same symptoms, even if they are on the other side of the country or the world. In reality, one can become a virtuoso musician and the other a car mechanic, also a virtuoso, two professions that are not at all related. I see the reading of the future as a call to Kun and Korn to separate their destinies so they can be happy. When they separate, they may feel unhappy, hurt, the feeling that one is abandoning the other, but in the long run they could develop their characters and personalities freely and be happy.
If in 1626 a good story were told (I hope so, I like the screenwriter, who is the same author of both stories), and they decided to tell us a romance between Nick and Thod, if the writing is clean, tactful , I wouldn't see it as bad. It could be a good play. I don't think Thod is confused nor is he being manipulated by Nick. We are not in the presence of a pedophile disorder, much less rape. There is no child sexual abuse. These are very delicate topics with many edges. Not even scholars have agreed on many aspects. That is why it would be illogical to discuss a topic of this magnitude in a comment, especially if I am not a specialist.
Part of the story is missing until the closing. But everything seems to indicate that Nick, the adult in this relationship, is choosing to have a loving relationship (reciprocated, too), and is not seeking to satisfy his sexual impulses or perverse inclinations to possess a newly developed adolescent body. This is condemnable. It is illegal. When an adult tries to have a person in this way, it is also called objectifying. In a case like this we would be in the presence of treating the person as an object, a thing. And I don't think this is the case. Let's wait for the end of the story.
As I told you before, I don't see incest in any of the twins' actions. And if incest is questionable, the pedophilia that could underlie “1626” is reprehensible, but I do not perceive it either, despite the notable age difference between the two protagonists, such as the fact that one of them is a minor (16 years). Until now, hidden, because it has not been clearly exposed, you can perceive the real love of two boys, and love does not understand age nor other factors, such as gender, religion, skin color...
Your explanation allowed me to understand why two of the characters in “Pisces of Me” are part of this story. “1626” gives him a follow-up in a certain way, but not from the perspective of Kun, the other brother, who was missing because it was from the prism of Korn that that story was told. “I really liked “Pisces of Me” and I liked the first part of 1626.”
I believe that the confusion or doubts are based on the fact that I start from the preconceived idea that all stories are independent. It is true that some characters from one story appear in another, but not to have “their” story told, but to serve as support for the protagonists of the new story. For the first time these two stories are mixed in some way, although they are also separated.
Are you watching Last Twilight?
During the party he didn't ask August for help, but Gee. It's true: he had just suffered the mishap in which drink was spilled on him. His reaction is that of someone who thought that if Mohk had been by his side, such a setback would not have happened. Did he blame August? Did he blame himself? We won't know. The above indicates that Day sees Mohk in those moments only as his caregiver, as the person who must protect him, not as the loved one. He didn't even call him on the phone. Go to Gee.
Day did not kiss Mohk. In truth, it was Mohk who kissed Day. And Day reciprocated. Mohk used a moment of Day's vulnerability to kiss him and confess his love. Did Day act out of spite, out of resentment at being rejected by August? We won't know. The series does not set out to tell it. In episode 7, starting at minute 16, Day asks Mohk to find him a coffee. It is the moment when he is alone with Gee to tell him: “Phi Mohk likes me.” And to her astonishment, he tells her: “He (Mohk) kissed me.”
It's true that Gee told Day to fire Mohk if he didn't have feelings for him, but you're missing an important element: Gee ignores all of reality. Gee only knows about the kiss Mohk gave Day. But he doesn't know everything else. Day took it upon himself to hide from Gee that he loved August and that Mohk knew of this unrequited love. Nor did Day tell Gee about her two kisses with August, first the one given by August and then the one Day gave her.
Day confesses his feelings for August to Mohk three times: In episode 5, starting at minute 57.38, in the restaurant where they returned after the failed date, Day talks about August. Mohk asks him: “If this wasn't about badminton, I'd think you were talking about your ex.” And Day responds: “Phi, when I was at the restaurant today, I felt like a broken-hearted man. “I think I really like it.” This is Day's first confession about who the person he loves is. And Day continues: “It's a shame. “I should have told him earlier, when I could still see his face.” At this moment everything seems to indicate that Mohk is going to confess his love and give her the sunflower. But along comes August, who overhears Day ask Mohk, “Shocked to find out I like August”? That is, both Mohk and August know about Day's sexuality and they also know that Day loves August. This is the second time Day has confessed her love for August.
In the 6th episode, starting at minute 57.14, in the place where Mohk takes Day after August's kiss, Day confesses his love for August again. He talks about the birthday party, the kiss, and the outburst after August's hurtful revelation. He says: “And someone I've always been in love with came to kiss me... I'm very lucky to be blind...”.
You raise as evidence of Day's love for Mohk the fact that “He used his 10 seconds to see Mhok's face.” I've given my opinion before: Day doesn't need his 10 seconds to see the face of August, his mother, his brother, Gee, or anyone else close to him. Day knows everyone's faces except Mohk's. Gee has told him on several occasions about how handsome Mohk is. In episode 4, starting at 21.35 minutes, after the reunion of Gee and Day when he went to see her during her training, Gee takes Day's hand and walks with him, separating from Mohk. “Have you seen his face before?” Day tells him that with those blind eyes he can't see him. And Gee responds: “You said you can still see up close.” Gee looks in Mohk's direction again and tells Day: “Spoiler alert: not only is her voice pretty, but so is her face. “It is eye candy.” Starting at minute 52 of that same 4th episode, Mohk sings in the bar where they went. Gee is next to Day sitting at the table. Gee tells him “I think he's looking at you (…) He can't stop smiling at you. His savagery aside, I think he's fine. He doesn't look like a caregiver at all. I repeat, it is eye candy.” In the following scenes, when they both return home and Mohk lies down on the floor, Day pours the drops into his eyes and goes to satisfy the curiosity he feels to see Mohk's face, but it is not necessarily out of love. A mixture of Joy, Gratitude, Serenity, Interest, Hope, Inspiration and Pride can drive you, but not love. Day loves August in those moments. The evidence that confirms the latter is offered to us by Day himself when, from that moment on, he tries to conquer August and repeatedly confesses his love for him.