the overall story was really good but the last two episodes were just beyond anything. when they finally got together,…
If you can find the remixed version of Ep 11 (sometimes numbered 11.5), that scene was edited soooooooo much better. Fortunately they realized they did a crappy job on the editing the first time around. It’s a bummer that the remixed version can’t just automatically replace the original version everywhere.
Tae started opening up to Shin Woo when he saw the unread text messages in his phone. And Da On really liked Tae,…
@fluffyprince I really appreciate the analysis in this thread, but you may want to change your comments to Spoiler. (I’ve already seen the show, but this discussion would reveal quite a bit to those who haven’t yet seen.)
Tae started opening up to Shin Woo when he saw the unread text messages in his phone. And Da On really liked Tae,…
@purpledazzle I really appreciate the analysis in this thread, but you may want to change your comments to Spoiler. (I’ve already seen the show, but this discussion would reveal quite a bit to those who haven’t yet seen.)
i just finished to watch the series and i really loved it but i am still a bit confused cause i didn't understand…
@daokluen I really appreciate the analysis in this thread, but you may want to change your comments to Spoiler. (I’ve already seen the show, but this discussion would reveal quite a bit to those who haven’t yet seen.)
My big problem with a lot of gmmtvs recent productions is that they seem have to be given up completely to even…
Thank you for such a thorough answer! I appreciate the time you took to put the list altogether, and I look forward to learning more about the companies I don't already know. I like to hear about the more indie companies that aren't as widely known. I am a big fan of Strongberry and have recently started watching shows from O2 Production.
For sure enjoyment is subjective, and I promise I won't hold you accountable for any companies/shows I don't end up liking 😉
My big problem with a lot of gmmtvs recent productions is that they seem have to be given up completely to even…
I am curious what companies you feel are making good BL shows these days? (and because it’s hard to tell on social media… I am asking this question sincerely, not as an asshole reaction to your comment 😉)
Your review was absolutely delightful to read — your writing style, your directness, your amusing expressions of annoyance… It didn’t really matter what show it was about in a sense (to me), because it was just a pleasure to read. I appreciate you taking the time to write and share it!
Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you…
Thank you for filling in some gaps. That is interesting that you have not seen anyone else rant about this issue in this way. I've read many comments but of course not all of them, so I assumed a similar comment had been made elsewhere. (Apologies for the @deleted that now shows up in your comment. I deleted the wrong duplicate of my previous post - !)
I feel a teeny bit better about France, but only a teeny bit. He couldn't have canceled his France plans and studied law in Thailand? (And I had had a similar thought about Yai taking Jom to France with him, but I tried to keep in mind the time period and how would they pay for travel, food, etc. for Jom if it was all Yai daddy's money. In 2024 though, damn straight he better find a way to take him!)
As far as Yai's age in the show... I mentioned it less an excuse for his choices and more to assuage my sadness about how it was too much like real life where someone (especially someone younger) might make all sorts of promises of love when everything is shiny and new but when the rubber meets the road those promises are conveniently forgotten. The disparity between Yai's words and his actions hurt my heart to watch. (This might sound like I'm strictly referring to a personal experience and that's why it affected me so much, but not really, not more than any other person who has been in a romantic relationship. I'm just speaking from being a human on this planet, witnessing life as it unfolds.)
I can handle sad sometimes, and not knowing the story, about halfway through the series I was steeling myself for a possible sad ending. That would have ripped me to shreds for sure, but honestly, the quieter event of watching promises of love fall to the wayside one by one was more painful. If the storytellers want to sell me a fantasy about love that transcends lifetimes, where two people cannot bear to be apart although forces in the real and imagined world conspire against them, then something like one person leaving to study in France (for YEARS, whether it was preplanned or a later decision) is not a character choice that makes sense to me.
However, I will also say 1) I still believe it's still an incredible show that I recommend people see, and 2) that in the hundreds of shows I have watched I have never been seriously interested in reading the source material, until now (I've already got it queued up). I want to re-experience this part of story again but in a different light, hopefully in a light that convinces me more solidly of the maturity of Yai's love for Jom. 'Cuz, damn, the other parts of the story sure make me want to believe!
Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you…
@Springjjjjjjjj Thank you for all the information for the non book readers. I can sleep better at night now that I understand the ending! 😉
Question that I am wondering if they made more clear in the book… WHY ON EARTH did Yai decide to go to France - for YEARS!?! - after everything they had gone through to be together??? It was so out of character to me that i actually yelled “bullshit!” at the screen. I get that Yai’s dream was to go to France, but so was being able to be with Jom, WHICH THEY FINALLY ACHIEVED. [No thanks to Yai by the way. He would have been stuck in a loveless marriage for the REST OF HIS LIFE if it weren’t for Jom having the guts to intervene. My man Yai let me down by not putting up more of a fight about the engagement. I get that his options may have been limited given the time period and the circumstances, but his lackluster response did not show a man even trying to fight for the love of his life (or lifetimes, as it were).]
When Yai was lying on Jom’s lap at one point, he even said he would be ok with a “lesser” dream if it meant he could spend his life with Jom. Yet he didn’t hesitate even half a second when his mom made the offer, conveniently forgetting that THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE HAD JUST SAVED HIM from feeling dead inside for the rest of his life. (Oh, and btw, what was the plan if the marriage had gone through? Jom would be his not-so-secret lover? Jom would hang out just as a servant? Jom would leave?)
Is Jom just supposed to say, “Yeah, cool, cool, I just saved your ass, made it possible for us to be together, but yeah, no problem, I will just hang out here for YEARS, waiting for you to fulfill YOUR dream (which apparently doesn’t include me for several years).” I understand that typically a person might want to help their partner achieve a dream, but in this case… come on. (Also, a person might choose to stay with their partner after so many sacrifices had already been made 🙄)
Yai went on and on about how much he wanted Jom by his side, how he missed Jom so terribly every night they weren’t together, how he knew from the moment he saw Jom they had a deep connection, etc. It made NO sense to me that Yai’s character would just up and leave without a moment’s hesitation, and I felt it was just extremely, extremely selfish of him to chose to do so.
AND as if it couldn’t get any worse, Yai was still intent on leaving (when they were were under the tree at the end, Jom confirmed that Yai was leaving in a few days) EVEN WHEN he knew Jom was disappearing, although neither of them were sure on when that would finally happen. WTAF???
I really, really loved so much about this story (and even when I was angry at Yai, Bright’s performance was AH-mazing), but I was left with the feeling that Yai’s love, as passionate and effusive as it was, was ultimately naïve [he *was* only 20 and this was likely his first time being in love (in this lifetime)], and he was not really ready to make the mature sacrifices needed in these circumstances.
All that to say 😆 does the book explain why he made the choice to go to France - and let me take this opportunity to say yet again - FOR YEARS???
For sure enjoyment is subjective, and I promise I won't hold you accountable for any companies/shows I don't end up liking 😉
I feel a teeny bit better about France, but only a teeny bit. He couldn't have canceled his France plans and studied law in Thailand? (And I had had a similar thought about Yai taking Jom to France with him, but I tried to keep in mind the time period and how would they pay for travel, food, etc. for Jom if it was all Yai daddy's money. In 2024 though, damn straight he better find a way to take him!)
As far as Yai's age in the show... I mentioned it less an excuse for his choices and more to assuage my sadness about how it was too much like real life where someone (especially someone younger) might make all sorts of promises of love when everything is shiny and new but when the rubber meets the road those promises are conveniently forgotten. The disparity between Yai's words and his actions hurt my heart to watch. (This might sound like I'm strictly referring to a personal experience and that's why it affected me so much, but not really, not more than any other person who has been in a romantic relationship. I'm just speaking from being a human on this planet, witnessing life as it unfolds.)
I can handle sad sometimes, and not knowing the story, about halfway through the series I was steeling myself for a possible sad ending. That would have ripped me to shreds for sure, but honestly, the quieter event of watching promises of love fall to the wayside one by one was more painful. If the storytellers want to sell me a fantasy about love that transcends lifetimes, where two people cannot bear to be apart although forces in the real and imagined world conspire against them, then something like one person leaving to study in France (for YEARS, whether it was preplanned or a later decision) is not a character choice that makes sense to me.
However, I will also say 1) I still believe it's still an incredible show that I recommend people see, and 2) that in the hundreds of shows I have watched I have never been seriously interested in reading the source material, until now (I've already got it queued up). I want to re-experience this part of story again but in a different light, hopefully in a light that convinces me more solidly of the maturity of Yai's love for Jom. 'Cuz, damn, the other parts of the story sure make me want to believe!
Thank you for all the information for the non book readers. I can sleep better at night now that I understand the ending! 😉
Question that I am wondering if they made more clear in the book… WHY ON EARTH did Yai decide to go to France - for YEARS!?! - after everything they had gone through to be together??? It was so out of character to me that i actually yelled “bullshit!” at the screen. I get that Yai’s dream was to go to France, but so was being able to be with Jom, WHICH THEY FINALLY ACHIEVED. [No thanks to Yai by the way. He would have been stuck in a loveless marriage for the REST OF HIS LIFE if it weren’t for Jom having the guts to intervene. My man Yai let me down by not putting up more of a fight about the engagement. I get that his options may have been limited given the time period and the circumstances, but his lackluster response did not show a man even trying to fight for the love of his life (or lifetimes, as it were).]
When Yai was lying on Jom’s lap at one point, he even said he would be ok with a “lesser” dream if it meant he could spend his life with Jom. Yet he didn’t hesitate even half a second when his mom made the offer, conveniently forgetting that THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE HAD JUST SAVED HIM from feeling dead inside for the rest of his life. (Oh, and btw, what was the plan if the marriage had gone through? Jom would be his not-so-secret lover? Jom would hang out just as a servant? Jom would leave?)
Is Jom just supposed to say, “Yeah, cool, cool, I just saved your ass, made it possible for us to be together, but yeah, no problem, I will just hang out here for YEARS, waiting for you to fulfill YOUR dream (which apparently doesn’t include me for several years).” I understand that typically a person might want to help their partner achieve a dream, but in this case… come on. (Also, a person might choose to stay with their partner after so many sacrifices had already been made 🙄)
Yai went on and on about how much he wanted Jom by his side, how he missed Jom so terribly every night they weren’t together, how he knew from the moment he saw Jom they had a deep connection, etc. It made NO sense to me that Yai’s character would just up and leave without a moment’s hesitation, and I felt it was just extremely, extremely selfish of him to chose to do so.
AND as if it couldn’t get any worse, Yai was still intent on leaving (when they were were under the tree at the end, Jom confirmed that Yai was leaving in a few days) EVEN WHEN he knew Jom was disappearing, although neither of them were sure on when that would finally happen. WTAF???
I really, really loved so much about this story (and even when I was angry at Yai, Bright’s performance was AH-mazing), but I was left with the feeling that Yai’s love, as passionate and effusive as it was, was ultimately naïve [he *was* only 20 and this was likely his first time being in love (in this lifetime)], and he was not really ready to make the mature sacrifices needed in these circumstances.
All that to say 😆 does the book explain why he made the choice to go to France - and let me take this opportunity to say yet again - FOR YEARS???