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That’s exactly why I’m holding off watching this until all episodes have aired. When I read the synopsis I had a feeling it *might* be more “slice of life” (which I’m less interested in) so I figured I’d wait to see how it wrapped up first.

He’s my favorite character too. I would not have predicted the massive amount of vehement hate toward him, and I’m so curious what is behind all of that. Like, what are people’s relationships like or what types of relationships are they imagining for themselves that they can’t even contemplate understanding the actions of someone that you love and then forgiving them.

It’s not easy to be an activist. It can be lonely. Exhausting. Picking yourself up again and again after setbacks and failures. Believing in something that is right but also messy and muddy up close. Loving an activist is not for the faint of heart, but everything the show has shown us about Tinn leads me to believe he is someone who can.

Once I got past my initial shock and hurt, I would forgive Phob and go be with my man! The “why” of them is so much bigger than the “what” of what happened.

An 8.0 on MDL for a JBL? Wow, time to buy a lottery ticket!

Oh that’s great, thanks for letting me know!

Oh no! Glad I’m not on TikTok; comments like that would infuriate me and break my heart at the same time. I wonder what the writers and the actors feel about the hate for Phob? Besides the fact that I have nothing but compassion for him, I don’t believe the writers or actors intended for him to come across as a character to hate. So this intense of a negative response might come as a surprise to them. Maybe not, but possibly. I would be curious to know the age breakdown of those who vilify him and those who don’t. I suspect the former group may skew younger, but again, maybe not. But that’s my hunch.

And I love that this is an original story! Not based on a novel. None of the audience knows the ending and no one is comparing it to a written version. Very refreshing in a genre filled with adaptations.

The beginning of the uncut version shows 18+, so something is different. Nothing yet so far. Although I cannot imagine ThreeSoh in an NC scene 😆 Maybe JackTen? I mean, if you’ve seen Gunner in Knock Out… 🥵

I wish there were different posters for this series. They make it seem like Soh’s costume plays a bigger role than it does, and I feel they kinda downplay some of the sweet sincerity of the show that has nothing to do with gaming.

But what happened with Jack and Ten?? It’s odd that scene just ended and then next it’s (several?) days later. And holy cow, Three, maybe moving a tad fast there at the end? 😯

We’re going to disagree on this, and that’s ok 🙂 but I’ll expand on why I said coward. After growing up together and everything they have been through being apart 11 years, after Tin bought rings for them (which I take to mean, You are my forever person), after Tin being willing to leave his father who had said fuck your happiness… after all that he’s not even going to hear from Phob’s own mouth what the hell happened, before cutting him off completely by sending back the ring? Why not hear out Phob first? End it with him after you hear him, fine. But to flush everything away without one word in person? How does that even make sense, given the relationship and the characters we’ve been shown?

Maybe I’m just not aware that scores of people across this planet have ended relationships (otherwise seemingly good relationships btw) over one incident or transgression **without ever letting the other person share one word about what happened.** Again, not arguing that someone should choose to stay in such a relationship. I’m saying that not letting the other person have one word after so much love and sacrifice together… that’s not cool. What is Tin afraid/worried will happen if he lets Phob speak to him? Will he have to face why Phob’s choice for the greater good might have been valid? Or that he loves Phob’s strong sense of morality, but only when it benefits him (e.g., Phob fighting for them to be together) but not when it disenfranchises his family (including his father who was perfectly willing to let Tin die inside for the rest of his life)?

Phob was transparent with Tin as well, since they were children, that he hated the caste/class system and would destroy it if he could. Of course it’s totally fair for Tin to be upset that Phob didn’t tell him that he (Phob) was involved with the revolutionaries, or that Phob stole info from Tin. Totally valid. So that’s it though? No question to Phob about “why the hell did you do that? What about all the promises we made each other? It feels like you were with me just to use me!” Bring it on Tin! I got your back! But have. the. conversation. Have the fight. Don’t just send the ring back which means, It’s over forever and there’s nothing you can say, ever, that would change my mind. If Tin needs to cool off first man, cool off. But sending the ring back? That’s just petty and childish if you *don’t* mean to communicate that it’s over and don’t ever talk to me.

Maybe Tin doesn’t want to hear that Phob didn’t tell him about his plans because he loves Tin too much to put him in the position of choosing between Phob and his own father AND that Phob would rather take the hit to their relationship than cause pain to Tin in having to make a choice. Tin could respond with, “Well, bad gamble my friend, because that did just end our relationship,” but that requires that he at least *hear* what Phob has to say for himself. (And who knows, maybe Tin will actually understand where Phob is coming from and forgive him because there is more than enough that is good, positive, and healthy about their relationship.)

If Tin just needs time to cool off, he could have told Siri to let Phob know he needs time. But he didn’t. He gave the ring back and basically said I don’t want to talk to you - ever. Really? Why don’t you want to hear what the love of your life has to say for himself? Not even one time?

I have experienced many kinds of wonderful and difficult loves in my life, but I hope I never experience the supposed deep love of someone who then does not even give me one chance to explain my actions (when, btw, *everything else* in the relationship is going beautifully). The other person can then do with that information what they want of course, but if they don’t even want to hear me out one time, then, sadly for all involved, the love was never that important to begin with.

Absolutely, be mad. I would be too. But sending the ring back? That’s not “I need to cool down and will get to you later.” That’s “It’s over and there is nothing at all, ever, that you could say to make me change my mind.” If Tin doesn’t mean the latter, then it is petty and childish for him to send the ring back without talking to Phob first.

I think they’ll get back together just fine. But Tin sending the ring back without talking to Phob? That just doesn’t fit the relationship and the characters as they were represented to us. Tin lost faith in Phob way, way too easily.

based on what we’ve been shown so far in this series, I do not believe that Tin would have cut off Phob without hearing from PHOB’S OWN MOUTH what he had to say. I had made a comment in the feed earlier that if Tin cut off Phob completely (not just mad at him, but *cut off*) then the love that was shown to us in the series was not as strong as we were lead to believe.

Ok, so you might say, what about Tin overhearing Phob tell his mom that “he did what he had to do.” Not great out of context (as it looked like he only reunited with Tin to use him), but again, Tin is a persistent little shit when he wants Phob to speak his mind clearly. The Tin I witnessed throughout the series would have confronted Phob and asked him what the hell he meant by that. Tin may have not believed him or forgiven him, but to not even hear him out? So Tin believes 100% that Phob deceived him — that there’s *zero* chance any of their love is real — that he’s not even willing to find out more? He’s not even willing to entertain the idea that any of it was real? Bullshit. Talk about a coward.

Nope, no way. I adore this series, but…

They don’t go downhill 🔥 At least make it through ep 8 is what I’m sayin’…

On the surface this is so not the type of show I would like, but I’m actually enjoying it a lot. Goofball antics typically aren’t my thing, but somehow Maxky makes it fun instead of cringe. And his character’s feelings for Soh are sweet and believable. I almost didn’t give this show a shot, and I’m glad I did. I smile through the whole thing 😁

I’m with you. I’ve read so many great things about this show, but just knowing it has a unique artistic approach has made me hold off watching until it’s done airing, “just in case.” Knowing about ep 13 in advance helps, but I need to decide if I’m willing to tolerate that much sadness anyway. If it’s not a happy ending, no way no how will I be able to watch. And I accept that but would still be bummed to miss out on the other parts.

It’s also uncommon for females to climax from D in vag alone, so there’s that in common 😉 Although… Sun must be a unicorn since he also came hands free riding Jay while wearing the bunny head. Not the only unrealistic aspect in the series, but maybe in the top three 😆

But yes, kudos to the actors, director, and editor for an exceptionally well done scene.

Huh 🤔 My perspective of the scene at the end of ep 8 is that Sun did orgasm (that that’s what ended the first round). I’m not even sure Jay did then.

For those who kept wanting Sukfilm to start using different plots and settings… here it is! The story is off to a good start with Part 1. I have no idea how this is only rated 7.1. I wonder if people thought the end of Part 1 was the final ending maybe??

Whether or not to provide gender reassignment surgery to minors is a complex issue, I agree. But the facts of which countries offer gender reassignment is completely verifiable. (I am happy to DM you links if you wish.) Your previous posts in this thread said nothing about this procedure for minors specifically, so the countries I listed are where these procedures are available, not specifically which countries make it available to minors (although some of those countries do). The intent of my post was to clarify that the U.S. is not the only or one of only a few countries that offer gender affirming care/reassignment, which seemed to be your assertion.