4
4
want to see the actors in something else (watch suggestions for the cut version)
Overall: I was not a fan of the dynamic between either of the 2 main couples (lack of communication/acting like a child and idiotic/abusive approaches). This series was based on books which I haven't read and I reviewed the series on its own merits. Uncut (~52 min to 1hr17min) on WeTV https://wetv.vip/en/play/1ci6pha8sn1tf5h-Fourever%20You/t4100l7xft2-EP1%3A%20Fourever%20You%20(Uncut%20Ver.) ; uncut for Wabi Sabi's YouTube Membership ; cut (~47 min) on WeTV https://wetv.vip/en/play/ao1v1tecg9lpwhb-Fourever%20You%20(Uncut%20Ver.)/s4100zd55dq-EP01A%3A%20Fourever%20You and YouTube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb6_2JamS9iP_2lK0mjCScRwFJx8c8ru6
Content Warning: non con touching, homophobia, punch, fight, manipulation/coercion, non con picture taking/sharing, attempted sex assault, physical assault, victim blaming, non/dub con kiss, intimate partner abuse (financial)
Watch Suggestions
- watch episode 1
- watch episode 2: part 1 9-end, 2/3 9:30-end and all of 2/4
- watch episode 3: part 1 4-6 & 13:30-end, all of part 2
- watch episode 4: start part 1 at 3 min and watch part 4
- watch episode 5: part 2 beg to 5 min, part 3 2:30-end, part 4 5:30-end
- watch episode 6: part 1 beginning to 4
- watch episode 7: part 2 4:25-5:10, part 3 4:10-9:20, part 4 6-end
- watch episode 8: part 1 (or can skip), part 2 6:20-end, part 3 beginning to 3:30, part 4 2:30-end
- watch episode 9: part 1 4-end, part 2 8-11, part 4 6:15-7:50
- watch episode 10: part 3 1:30-8:30
- watch episode 11: part 3 5:30-6:10
- watch episode 12: part 1 11-end, part 2 5:45-end, part 3 5:55-8, part 4 10:30-end
- watch episode 13: part 1 11:30-end, watch part 2 and part 3, can watch part 4 for a long flashback scene for how two characters met
- watch episode 14: part 1 up to 11 min, part 2 6:05-end, part 3 4:30-5:45 or the whole thing, all of part 4
- watch episode 15: part 2 2-end for the side couple, part 3 beginning to 7:30, part 4 4-5:15
- episode 16 is the backstory of Johan and North which didn't interest me (and his present day approach still made zero sense),
- watch episode 17: part 1 5:15-10:50 and 17-end, part 2 10-11:15 or all the way to the end if you enjoy family intros, watch all of parts 3 and 4
What I Liked
- excellent way to start a series
- the F4 entrance was fun (though not the exposition dump to introduce the characters)
- nice to see several actors again
- supportive dad and grandma
- supportive friends
- good that after a confrontation, a person apologized and removed pictures that were taken without consent
- sweet moments
- episode 17 tied things up well
Room For Improvement
- felt very old school Thai BL, there was zero reason for poor communication dragging on for a long time/not clearing things up right away in the past or the present
- slow pacing, 17 episodes with a delayed final episode (nearly 5 months for the cut version to air), overall a thin plot felt stretched
- an abusive jerk (controlling, manipulative) was supposed to be someone the viewer rooted for because he was less evil than another abusive jerk introduced in episode 10, the "plan"/approach made zero sense and was unpleasant to watch, his victim blaming "I told you not to work there" and financial coercion (I'll give you money for each kiss/hug) was gross, he also said "don't go out of my sight ever again", still used coercion for getting kisses in episode 15, said "kiss me and I'll answer why I like you" and moved the supposed love of his life without asking him first
- the haircuts/styles and acting like a child as a university student (an actual dialog was a character saying that they needed to hold hands or the other character (a university student) might get lost, later on a different character covered his boyfriend's eyes to prevent him from seeing someone kiss because I guess he was not mature enough to see that???)
- nonsense stuff like a character saying he would answer anything and then the other character not asking the most important question, in episode 14 where a character was so drunk that he lost consciousness but then was an active participant in sex
- 5 episodes was much too long for the first couple's story and then it continued to drag thru to the very end
- the comedy sound effects didn't make things funny
- not a fan of what a character did while the other was sleeping in episode 1
- awkward body gap and hands at sides when kissing
- cliche ex girlfriend plot in episode 10
Note: I skimmed thru the cut version to find the missing 5 minutes in ep 1 and other than the beginning being shorter, I didn't notice any changes. Episode 2 uncut was 1 minute longer. Episode 17 was 11 minutes longer. Up to episode 9 there was no NSFW. I watched ep 17 uncut and it didn't get steamy, a little kissing and then cut away to the next morning and the cut version appeared to be the same. Hence, I'm not sure there is that much extra NSFW in the uncut version and I value my sanity too much to watch all 17 uncut episodes and compare them)
Content Warning: non con touching, homophobia, punch, fight, manipulation/coercion, non con picture taking/sharing, attempted sex assault, physical assault, victim blaming, non/dub con kiss, intimate partner abuse (financial)
Watch Suggestions
- watch episode 1
- watch episode 2: part 1 9-end, 2/3 9:30-end and all of 2/4
- watch episode 3: part 1 4-6 & 13:30-end, all of part 2
- watch episode 4: start part 1 at 3 min and watch part 4
- watch episode 5: part 2 beg to 5 min, part 3 2:30-end, part 4 5:30-end
- watch episode 6: part 1 beginning to 4
- watch episode 7: part 2 4:25-5:10, part 3 4:10-9:20, part 4 6-end
- watch episode 8: part 1 (or can skip), part 2 6:20-end, part 3 beginning to 3:30, part 4 2:30-end
- watch episode 9: part 1 4-end, part 2 8-11, part 4 6:15-7:50
- watch episode 10: part 3 1:30-8:30
- watch episode 11: part 3 5:30-6:10
- watch episode 12: part 1 11-end, part 2 5:45-end, part 3 5:55-8, part 4 10:30-end
- watch episode 13: part 1 11:30-end, watch part 2 and part 3, can watch part 4 for a long flashback scene for how two characters met
- watch episode 14: part 1 up to 11 min, part 2 6:05-end, part 3 4:30-5:45 or the whole thing, all of part 4
- watch episode 15: part 2 2-end for the side couple, part 3 beginning to 7:30, part 4 4-5:15
- episode 16 is the backstory of Johan and North which didn't interest me (and his present day approach still made zero sense),
- watch episode 17: part 1 5:15-10:50 and 17-end, part 2 10-11:15 or all the way to the end if you enjoy family intros, watch all of parts 3 and 4
What I Liked
- excellent way to start a series
- the F4 entrance was fun (though not the exposition dump to introduce the characters)
- nice to see several actors again
- supportive dad and grandma
- supportive friends
- good that after a confrontation, a person apologized and removed pictures that were taken without consent
- sweet moments
- episode 17 tied things up well
Room For Improvement
- felt very old school Thai BL, there was zero reason for poor communication dragging on for a long time/not clearing things up right away in the past or the present
- slow pacing, 17 episodes with a delayed final episode (nearly 5 months for the cut version to air), overall a thin plot felt stretched
- an abusive jerk (controlling, manipulative) was supposed to be someone the viewer rooted for because he was less evil than another abusive jerk introduced in episode 10, the "plan"/approach made zero sense and was unpleasant to watch, his victim blaming "I told you not to work there" and financial coercion (I'll give you money for each kiss/hug) was gross, he also said "don't go out of my sight ever again", still used coercion for getting kisses in episode 15, said "kiss me and I'll answer why I like you" and moved the supposed love of his life without asking him first
- the haircuts/styles and acting like a child as a university student (an actual dialog was a character saying that they needed to hold hands or the other character (a university student) might get lost, later on a different character covered his boyfriend's eyes to prevent him from seeing someone kiss because I guess he was not mature enough to see that???)
- nonsense stuff like a character saying he would answer anything and then the other character not asking the most important question, in episode 14 where a character was so drunk that he lost consciousness but then was an active participant in sex
- 5 episodes was much too long for the first couple's story and then it continued to drag thru to the very end
- the comedy sound effects didn't make things funny
- not a fan of what a character did while the other was sleeping in episode 1
- awkward body gap and hands at sides when kissing
- cliche ex girlfriend plot in episode 10
Note: I skimmed thru the cut version to find the missing 5 minutes in ep 1 and other than the beginning being shorter, I didn't notice any changes. Episode 2 uncut was 1 minute longer. Episode 17 was 11 minutes longer. Up to episode 9 there was no NSFW. I watched ep 17 uncut and it didn't get steamy, a little kissing and then cut away to the next morning and the cut version appeared to be the same. Hence, I'm not sure there is that much extra NSFW in the uncut version and I value my sanity too much to watch all 17 uncut episodes and compare them)
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