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omg...I about died when you brought up PL...THE Drama You Love To Hate! Oh the memories. WHY was I so addicted to that insane show? It was absolutely AWFUL! Yet....there were a few of us in my FB group that just could not stop watching! It was like that proverbial train wreck. And the gawd awful ending! I felt like I had to have lost at least a dozen IQ points by the end of that one! Geez.

I am very concerned for Lee Tae Im also. The environment over there is so scary for these young women. God only knows what a beautiful young girl like her has been subjected to and the stories are hinting at it. I think she hit a wall while she was in the water and something broke in her, poor thing. Same with those poor idiot girls who blackmailed LBH...now they are talking about doubling their sentences? They will be lucky if they don't end up with a suicide at this rate.

And so many dramas you have those eye-rolling moments where the writers do these absolutely stupid things and with even the smallest amount of intelligence any of us drama watchers could have come up with a scenario or solution that made even half an ounce more sense! It's fun to guess where this one will go. If it goes total makjang...well we could go on and on. This writer also did Goddess of Marriage, which I could not stomach after half a dozen episodes and was one of the rare ones my anal self actually dropped. Those of my group that stuck with it spent the entire time on a tirade of bitching about the awfulness of it. So WHY did we even start watching this thing knowing how bad this writer is?

I CANNOT give up on Woon Tak/BSB. I am such a huge BSB fan I am shameless in my willingness to accept a makjang ending for him (thereby admitting my refusal to separate my actor and his role). Yes, it is a failing and I refuse to defend myself. :( I'm at that point in my life and kdrama watching, I want my cake and everything else too! ;) I want him to be happy at the end of this. BSB does the most amazing job of being the conflicted villain...here and in Secret. He just kills it! When I see the difference in him in these 2 roles and Greatest Wedding, it blows my mind. I really think, in his heart of hearts, he would love doing comedic roles more. As bad as that thing unfortunately ended,you could see he absolutely reveled in that role!

This is too fun and too long...I am supposed to be cleaning my house!!!!!

And...here it is.....http://www.koreandrama.org/?p=39126

Goo has me fascinated. You KNOW there is a story there. He's after WoonTak...the man and the business. There is definitely an agenda there, and leashed power too. I liked that character very much right from the beginning. But I had hopes for the actor's sake that his part would be a strong one, so it makes me even happier for that reason.

You are so right. Jin is no doormat. She could not survive that household if she weren't a strong woman. Anyone who has watched kdramas for a while knows the song and dance when the DIL moves into the house with the EMIL. You either become a puddle or you survive. Jin is definitely surviving. The 3 year jump was hard to stomach. It actually made the situation more frustrating because you really question how she could be so blind to his evilness and not lash back or even leave after living under all that pressure for that long. It indicates a complacency that is frustrating to the viewer. If it had been a year or so, I think it would have made more sense. But it was so they could age Jung that they did it...still, its a bad writing thing. Like the clone phone. Give me a break. After he finds out she saw it while cleaning, he leaves it on the top of the desk? They should have just gone with that scene on it's own.

I had to laugh when you said NBR is over acting since my friend and I have been bitching about the same thing. She has resorted to her first ever fast forwarding in a drama as a result...she just can't stand her! lmao! It's again with the writing though. They seem to like those kinds of characters in dramas. Sadly, from what we read, she is actually supposed to be the focus of this drama, so I am afraid we are doomed to more screen time with her as the focus and those 2 guys are supposed to compete for her. But we now have hints of a new character, so I'm not sure what's up with that. I presume they are preparing for a new story line (maybe with that sister?), but now with the episode cut? Everything is up in the air. I feel for those writers and really the entire cast and crew. It's got to be very tense! And it's not ALL Lee Tae Im's fault as the rumors were flying early on about episode cuts when the ratings were so low. I'm wondering if this will create enough buzz that will reverse itself now??? It would be hilarious if it suddenly became a ratings hit. But ....please don't add episodes! :(

Finally, given what we know about kdrama, Tak is going to have to pay in karma or real life for his moment of hesitation that ultimately doomed the girls' father to death. I presume that means he will lose Jin and/or perhaps the baby. I don't see how those 2 are going to end up together once Jin knows this. I also don't see how he will ever be willing to allow her to keep his child away from him no matter what. So something has to give. She either forgives or the child dies. Kdrama seems to come down on the forgiveness quotient. He will have a quantum shift, explain and receive forgiveness (after the requisite 'time apart'), and they will end up together. But if the child dies, I think there is a chance he will eventually accept this as his penance, fade away back into loneliness, and the ending will see the girls working in the restaurant, and Goo watching. And waiting. So many ending scenarios. And, as you can see, all of the curiosity quotient goes to what will happen with Jin, since Jung's is set in concrete and will be no surprise whatsoever. We can all see exactly every up and down that is going to happen to her and that restaurant as she battles Woon Tak to her eventual success. Of course with all kinds of support from a chaebol heir, etc etc.

Amazing article. You never cease to amaze. I have not seen even half of these works! Oh my aching List!!!!!

definitely, I think so too. And I hate to rush to judge. Everyone has their breaking points and the conditions these stars have to work under and the pressures they deal with are not easy. Not everyone has the perfect temperament to deal with those pressures either. Who knows what all she was dealing with. I know nothing about her as a person, only seen her in a few things. But I hate listening to bad mouthing based on internet rumors so want to give her the benefit of the doubt. Also, if her health issues also involve mental health problems, she is struggling under even more difficult circumstances....not saying she is...just IF. So before everyone starts calling her names and destroys her career, I wish they would not rush to judgement.I kinda liked where her character was going with the non traditional love interest. You would expect them to have some stud type for her. I think her relationship with Pyo is very sweet. He is mature and understanding of her, something a younger man would not be, and something her disturbed and unstable character needs.

I agree that 30 episodes makes much more sense. I am not a fan of 50 episode dramas. Universally, except for Glorious Days, Every one just beats to death the same garbage over and over until it's like whatever...another episode of the same old same old. I am with you on the oddly addictive part. BSB is the draw...his intensity keeps the heart pounding in every scene he is in. Is he or isn't he a bad guy? Is it our bias for the actor that prevents those of us rooting for him from seeing him as the bad person he may be? Or are our instincts correct that there is more to his character than meets the eye? What forces have created him and drive him to be like he is? That desperate love he seems to have for Soon Jin, is it real? It's like we walk this tightrope with him in every episode, wondering which side of the ledge he's going to jump off of. I heard in an interview he said his character makes a quantum shift to the good guy side midway in the drama....which I guess is now now?

I'm finding Soon Jung just bearable now. Hoping we will see a more mature character, but her storyline is just odd. Pil Mo as a love interest? The guy is 40 and looks it, and she is 25 and playing 22. I hope they don't go there and keep him as an uncle type figure. And what's with the sudden addition of a new character with Kim Hyung-Kyu? Not that I'm not thrilled to see more of him, but in a drama already in trouble it seems strange. This thing is all over the place. No matter. I will be very sad if they cancel even more episodes and if the writers are unable to tighten the story. Since we will basically be down to 2 sisters now, I'm guessing they will have less to work on and hopefully will do a good job on the remainder. I hope it is at least equally divided between the 2 sisters, as I'm MUCH more interested in Soon Jin than Soon Jung.

I keep seeing rumors that this is going to be cut to 30 episodes, but no articles. If anyone finds one, please post a link! Lee Tae Im is pretty much done. I'm betting she and her man friend will marry and move back to America and that will be the end of her scenes except for maybe a few phone calls. :( Too Bad. Drama in the Drama!!! http://kpopfighting.com/2015/03/04/lee-tae-im-will-have-a-reduction-of-scenes-for-my-heart-twinkle-twinkle-due-to-health-issues/

Love this drama. Every episode flies by in the seeming blink of an eye. In other words, there is NEVER a dull or wasted moment in this show. Don't take your eyes off of it or you may miss a crucial piece of information. I love how In Yub's ex-fiance/husband continues to fight to save her. It is such a refreshing change from most dramas where they either turn into creeps or just give up. I fear his battle will end with him being killed though. On the other side of the coin, if she proves her father innocent of the charges, her status will be reinstated and they could get back together. What are the chances of that happening? Also, if she stays a servant, will Moo Myeong ever have enough strength of will to fight for her as his mate. We are now at the halfway point. I hope the tension continues and we don't see a lot of filler. There is still so much story to cover! I can't wait to see how this ends.

As to that last ball of yarn and the note...help me out with your opinions. Who is the short muscular girl with the long ponytail? It appears she is pulling out the book Cheon-gi was reading about how to hide symptoms of depression so that your loved ones won't worry about you and so those who are tormenting you will not know they are succeeding. The note seems to congratulate the reader for successfully pulling through, as it wasn't that bad after all. Did she hope to read that note to herself one day, or leave it for someone else who hopefully will? Do you recognize the girl? It's not her sister. Her sister was much taller and not so stocky.

Definitely a strong R rated movie. I have no problem with that when they are done as well as this one. I recommend you google the TIFF reviews if you are unsure if you want to watch this. I personally thought everyone did a great job and the direction and cinematography work were terrific. 8.5

Very different! All movies completely out of my ordinary groove and you made want to watch them! :) WHERE do you find the time?

Lovely. Very sweet story. The sad ending doesn't take away from the happiness and peace these soldiers attained at the end. In fact the one who lived probably has it the hardest.

oh and Jung Jae-Young

While I can say the acting was very good, the film itself was just trying too hard to be SO outre. I have to say I'm biased, because these types of indie or New Wave films are not my cup of tea, though I try to watch a few every year to TRY to educate myself and 'broaden my horizons', I guess.. For the most part I find them pretentious, with the main theme seeming to be the director's attempt to put out a film so 'out there' that people will say Wow, It's Cool because no one (but me) can understand it's "deeper meaning"! Well, there wasn't much deeper meaning for me in this one. Some messed up people who seem to gravitate towards one another, bump together for a bit doing and saying odd things, and then, just as suddenly, walk out of each others' lives. Whatever. There are directors and writers out there that can make these kinds of film that leave you confused, but wondering and thinking. I'm already forgetting this one because frankly I don't care! But, the characters in it will probably stay with me. This is the 4th one of Hong's movies I have watched. They are all universally depressing and filled with unhappy and disturbed characters, some of whom will stick with me for a long time afterwards like this one....even though I'm not crazy about the film itself. So on some level I guess it works.

I'm in love with Section Chief Oh! And you can add Kim Seung-Woo to this list too! and Bae Yong Jun, Kim Sung Soo, Lee Byung Hun, Ji Jin-Hee, Jung Woo Sung, Son Chang-Min, Jeon No-Min....Just a FEW more of my favorites....but I could go on and on! :)

Ab.so.lute.ly!!!!

I agree. Wholeheartedly!

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A very quiet, sweet, happy, sad, frustrating movie. As Usual GD has the cast picture WRONG! What is up with that GD?!! This is a movie about how NOT to have a relationship. It's about lack of communication... the fear of committing yourself, and allowing the pain of a breakup to close you off to love. Both of these people made mistakes in what was not said and what was said. Would her confessing when they were young have helped? Who knows. She never did so the first opportunity was missed...and she continued to miss them. He allowed a breakup to affect him so much that he closed his eyes and his heart to possibilities. When they finally came together that day, he made a horrible mistake...2 really. Walking out the door and not coming back and then saying Sorry with NO EXPLANATION of what that meant. Sorry for what? That he made a mistake and wished he hadn't been with her? That he felt he had used a friend for comfort and that she would be hurt and offended? That he was afraid he had damaged a lifelong friendship by crossing a line that she did not want him to cross? WHAT? Instead....nothing. No explanation. And again time lost, damage done. And then when he finally comes to his senses and goes to her to tell her and maybe finally explain, she stops him and says she 'knows' what he's going to say. But, did she really? Did she think he was just going to apologize for what he'd done. I think she suspected she had misunderstood within moments of when he left...but again another missed opportunity. With so little 'happening' you might think this movie would drag, but it flew by for me. Great performances. And a lovely story that really made you feel like you were there with them. I choose to believe the ending shows they have finally realized it's time to stop wasting time, so I call it a happy ending. Others may have a different interpretation. BTW..These 2 people fell in love...probably while making this movie, but certainly soon after, are now married and have a child.

Extremely painful movie to watch. Might as well take out a hammer and beat yourself to death, it will be no less painful than this. It goes from depressing to distressing, to heartbreaking. One man's backwards journey from choosing to escape his living hell of a life via suicide to his innocent beginnings. It's not a journey I'd recommend you taking unless you just want to watch another classic bleak Korean movie about the hopelessness of lives destroyed. I'm not saying it wasn't brilliantly done and it certainly covers a lot of Korean history of the period, giving an excellent snapshot view of many incidents and scenarios covered in far more detail in many other equally dismal movies about the time period. It's just exhausting. The only thing I can say about it at this point is thank God I can cross it off my must see list. Now to try to forget it! 9/10

yeah...no sympathy for him or the grandmother. But the scene where Young Nam asks Do Hee what she did at the scene of her grandmother's death and the look Do Hee gave her was pretty clear, to me anyway. And that Young Nam understood and, I think at that moment, knew she had to protect her. So much left unsaid or to be guessed at in this movie. But that is part of why I liked it too. 2 characters with so much left unknown about their pasts, their motivations and what will happen to them. I watch these movies and see all the abuse, neglect, alcoholism....the just plain miserable lives and it is so depressing. I just finished Crying Fist...now there is a movie to depress the life out of you. Yet. Bless the Korean filmmakers. Just when you think there is nothing you can take from the hopelessness of the lives you are watching, out of that darkness there leaps a spark of light and brightness and hope. Even if death comes at the end, there is the knowledge of lessons learned, of life continuing, and the eternal fight that those people have had to contend with for so many generations of difficulty. I am madly addicted to Korean film and dramas. I keep hoping they run out of good ones so I can take back my life, but every year more and better ones keep being made and here is me, sitting in front of my computer. They will find me dead here one day I swear.

In this case, (though I actually don't care :), it's the abuser's rights that are being denied. She was not raped, she set him up to make it look like she had been. So he will be charged with a crime that he did not commit...though he's guilty of plenty of other stuff so I GUESS it evens out! Still. If he was denying it, even a rural area police dept has access to rape kits. They have a hospital. She's a very disturbed young girl and as some of the reviews and synopses have alluded to, may not have been completely innocent herself. No one deserves to be beaten and cursed at like that, especially a child. But...she did kill her grandmother and framed her 'father'.... Whether it was the abuse that turned her that way, or, as the young cop tried to warn Young Nam, that she was kind of a monster inside already, I think they left that question on purpose for us to mull over. It's a question other movies and shows have tried to present also....are you born bad or created bad? Why do some overcome the horrors they are exposed to and others turn into abusers themselves?