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I absolutely LOVE the rooftop room you used as header pic! If I had a single Won for every Drama it's been in I could probably rent it! 😂 It was central to my very first 50 episode weekender, My Daughter Seo Young, so has a special place in my Drama heart ❤

A VERY interesting article again. Thanks again for all the amazing time and effort put into preparing such a comprehensive and professionally presented pair of lists. And kudos for including one Drama I'd not heard before, "Please Don't Hate Him"

A very much higher proportions of drops and avoided for me on this list. Lots of "meh", quite a few "ugh!" plenty of "hard pass" and 3-4 faves (QIHM, FCJMA, MOLS, Splash Splash Love), along with my first ever drop (Pasta) and one of VERY few Dramas I hate enough to this day to want to smash stuff in rage just thinking about it, even years later - Full House. 😁

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Thanks for the rec for Tori Girl, sounds interesting. I agree with your view of Her Private Life too, that was fun. A little surprised to see no mention of City Hall even in the comments, a Drama that, imo, avoids the toxicity you astutely observe is often part of this trope.

Ah, thanks!

I skipped all of those Dramas except Angry Mom, so I thought I'd see what line you chose but I don't see a quote fro it in your article?

Can I just say again that I was AWESTRUCK by the amount of work you put into this amazing piece. Someone complained about the lack of opinion, but for me, the focus on facts was one of the BEST bits. Besides the mindblowing attention to detail and the endless hours it must have taken. I would MUCH rather read this list than one of the VERY common articles here that gush about Dramas with 50 million screenshots. I know that all these are Dramas you did enjoy, but instead of forcing that on your readers, you laid out the details and invited all of us to pick and choose and make up our own minds. And as someone who over the last eight years already HAS made up his mind on all but 2-3 of the Dramas in this list, I say, THANK YOU, it's 1000% DAEBAK!

Well, I have to say I was surprised by how many I had watched. I'd dropped and avoided *A LOT*: SWDBS, DOTS, Goblin, Record of Youth, Start-Up, Secret Garden, Hwarang, Another Miss Oh, WFKBJ, Oh My Ghostess to name just ten, but your list showed that even though there were a lot of Dramas I didn't like (even among the ones I completed), there were more successes than I remembered. So thank you! I look forward to part 2

WOW! I'm blown away by this list, especially since it's only part 1 - so much work, well done! I wonder if it might have been worth noting which of them were remakes, either of earlier K Dramas (1%) or Dramas from other countries, FTLY, ALSB , Witch's Romance. On a personal note I'm chuffed that I've watched, dropped or avoided all but 2 or 3 of the list, meaning I knew of basically all of them. And a little sad at how many of them are now irreparably tainted for me by the sexual crimes of the male lead actors. ☹

LOL! There is a DELICIOUS aptness to the idea that his very first Drama after "Manhole" would be a "Bad Memory Eraser" Four years probably not enough time to have erased that REALLY bad memory. :D 🤣

A small point of clarification - mutual intelligibility is at the very heart of the difference between a dialect and a language. uS English, UK English, Australian English, Indian English - L1 speakers of all those variants can communicate with a very high degree of mutual intelligibility.
When people speaking their own L1 languages cannot understand each other (like Fuzhou and Mandarin), they are by definition LANGUAGES, not dialects. That's what makes Fuzhou, Mandarin, Min, Hakka, Cantonese, Wu, and so many others real languages, not mere dialects. Chinese is a family of related languages, not one language.

It can be even worse when you actually LIKE an actor's real voice. I'm a big fan of Ariel Lin, and love her voice, both speaking and singing. So I was excited to watch her in Legend of The Condor Heroes (2008). Until I heard her 'speak' and realised that they'd dubbed her. Instant drop. :(

I didn't say it was the ONLY reason. I said it was an "element". Everything about C-Dramas IS influenced by politics, from SARFT's rules on acceptable content to government decrees on which actors are "bad moral examples". Of course, my views are also influenced by having many friends who speak Sinitic languages other than Mandarin: Calling Mandarin "Chinese" really pushes the buttons of my Hakka, Min, and Cantonese speaking friends, and this undoubtedly influence my views on dubbing in PRC Mandarin-language Dramas

Very interesting read. A fascinating reminder of how different perceptions can be, since I disagree on basically every point, ESPECIALLY Nr 3. And especially for female voices. I've lost count of how many C Dramas I've dropped as soon as the helium-high, doll-voiced adolescent female dub starts for the 30-something female actor.
I also note there's no mention of the political factor involved in dubbing, the CCP's obsessive determination that there is only ONE Chinese language, and only ONE acceptable accent, Beijing's.

I think one of the things I like most about Sunny is how the cast have stayed close for the decade since. It says something about the shared experience of making it. Which is kind of meta, given what the film is all about :)

Thanks for the rec of Relumino - since I've seen and loved the other 2, I'm likely to enjoy this one.

An interesting list, thanks. Nice to have my contrarian tastes confirmed by the top 5 - Skipped, dropped, skipped, dropped, dropped. I was also interested to discover that of the remaining 5, I scored 4 the same at 6/10, with the nightmare that was Secretary Kim coming in at 4.5. If you ever offer drama data analysis as a service, do let us know, it could be really interesting to have one's own stats analysed by a pro!

An interesting choice of themes, a couple are definitely on my watchlist. We may have different definitions of "old" though, because unless I'm mistaken, the "oldest" Dramas on the list are from as recently as 2016, while most are from 2020 or 2021. Five years doesn't seem "old" to me, probably because I am. :)

Thank you for this! Your comment and the replies have saved me wasting my time on this Drama. It was the sisters I was interested in not the lovelines. Dropped!

I wonder if I am the only one who feels the title is likely to prove brutally honest and accurate?