Curious.. what would have been an ideal ending for you? And what were you disappointed by?
You made some interesting points!!
I do think they dealt with Hidaka being a psycho in the first few episodes. The whole allergy episode that happened that was intense. I know it was somewhere in the beginning. All the blackmailing that was going on regarding the gloves & few other things (I can't remember).. I'd say she did try to give it back to him but was clearly no match for him. But yes now that you mention it, had they gone on with this, I would have loved to see how dark it would get, and how she would catch him.
DAMN THE COP ONE IS SUCH A COOL IDEA!! I would totally loved to have seen that.
You've got great ideas. Shit now I need to see that cop idea on screen. DAMN that would have been so freaking cool. Damnn I'll be honest I didn't think of more creative ways this could have been done, but you've got really really interesting ideas. Sell it to some writer!! HAHA
Yeah I get what you mean. I am a lawyer, and I am faced with the inhuman side of people all the time. Haha!
I know there are dramas that explored the effects, I can't remember the names. Let me get back to you on those.
Re: the 2 brothers. Yeah it's not anything new for sure. But I think the way the revelation happened (the whole context and all) it was very impactful for me. Completely agree on your thoughts regarding the sun/moon theory.
I'll be honest I think that watching the episode each week evokes very different feelings as to binging the whole thing (at least for me) & I waited each week for the mystery to be resolved, and to understand the sun/moon theory, so it was another level of satisfaction when it happened. Hehe.
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT 'I AM YOU, AND YOU ARE ME' WAS A WAY OF SAYING I LOVE YOU? Takahashi Issei & Ayase…
OMG you changed your username to YAYPANDA! That's from Love Shuffle!! I watched it recently & I freaking loved it!!!!! ALSO THAT GIF FROM QUARTET AHHHH ONE OF MY FAVS!!! <3
I have been a fan of Takahashi Issei for a long time and though he’s great in this drama, it’s Ayase Haruka’s…
I felt that this was Ayase Haruka's best so far! It's the first time she really impressed me. Otherwise, she's been strictly decent or good for me in her other roles & I've seen most of her work.
Wow that really depends on how you define a happy ending (specifically in the context of this drama) HAHA Ok I won't confuse you, my answer tilts more towards a "yes" For me personally, the best way to describe the ending is 'fitting'
Curious.. what would have been an ideal ending for you? And what were you disappointed by?
Interesting! I never thought of how the drama could have been done better, because I was not able to get any theory right LOL. I was quite blown by the way the writer pieced the puzzle together giving us bits & crumbs & then debunking our theories. So while this drama is not objectively perfect, it was pretty perfect for me.
I quite enjoyed the twist with Azuma being the one who was the psycho. To be honest, I did think in the beginning that Hidaka was a psycho but as we went on I found myself hoping that he wasn't (I am not sure why I wanted that lol)
I can see why you thought it was a red herring really because of all the crime that happened. But I think that's what I loved. Taking such a questionable subject matter, and twisting it into another angle? Rather than looking at it from a view of crime/punishment, action/consequences, to a view of 3 people stuck in this relationship that was ultimately a mother's love for her sons. It quite blew me away. Despite all the problematic stuff at the backdrop with what Azuma did, I found the revelation of the sun/moon theory & the swap emotionally stirring. To me that's quite a feat the writer achieved.
Ano Toki Kiss Shite Okeba too, heard it's really fun :(
Really? I remember number of subbers fangirling over the poster lol. Hopefully one of them will pick it up after the first episode airs, or after it is over.
Hmm.. I must disagree on the characters though you're free to hold your opinion :)I don't think her desire to…
I was not disrespectful in any of my comments or replies here, so don't make such rude comments that I'm acting like I own the place. This is a discussion page and it is meant for discussions which include both sides of the coin. You are free to like / dislike this drama, but don't be disrespectful.
I loved the 2nd episode until that ending scene which I disliked.
So you're telling me that each episode she's gonna date a different guy just so that he can write his manga?! WHAT THE HELL I DID NOT LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT. URGH WHY. WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE? Doesn't he have his story already. Will see the next episode and see how it goes.
A simple, loveable and heartwarming drama consisting of likeable, pleasant & real characters in the neighborhood that spread love and teach you to respect and accept one another. I loved them all, and would have loved for this drama to go on & on. Seriously why do people not watch these kind of dramas?
Hmm.. I must disagree on the characters though you're free to hold your opinion :)I don't think her desire to…
I'm sorry if I came across as defending them or trying to explain the plot. Definitely did not intend to do that. I had a different view when it came to the characters and wanted to point out that.
I see. I definitely saw it differently because I didn't have the context of the way the military's existence is currently problematic. I just saw it as his character is rigid and patriarchal. Thank you for pointing that out.
I am also going to be 30 soon and while I don't live in Japan, I do face the constant criticisms & pressure to be married. Definitely agree that our perspectives and experiences shape the way we see things. I didn't really have a problem with her wanting to be married regardless. But I completely agree that she should have had a conversation with her ex regarding marriage if that was a priority, rather than heading into it and expecting that he would want the same.
Disagree on the Crash Landing on You references but I'll leave it as that.
I love Sakamato Yuji too! Can't wait for the first episode of his currently airing drama to be subbed!
when you have two top actors as the main leads, not even an average screenplay for the first episode can stop…
This makes me both sad & happy to be honest. Happy for Satomi and Go! But sad because there are way more brilliant J dramas that are deserving of such viewership..
Mmmh... this is really not for me.I love both of the mains, but Keiko is not a great actress to begin with, and…
Hmm.. I must disagree on the characters though you're free to hold your opinion :)
I don't think her desire to be married and have a family stemmed merely from her age. If you watched the whole episode, it came about from her self-esteem issues and lack of familial affection at home & school. I don't think she was 'nice' at work either, given the way she clearly told the subordinate to do her work properly. Upon being confronted, she failed to fight back because the subordinate taunted her for her prettiness which has been a traumatic comment for her to hear since she was young. Also, there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to marry by the age of 33. Her decision. And it's not like she was pressured by anyone. She made the decision herself because she was moved by his romantic declaration.
Re: Eita. I didn't see him struggling either. Maybe I am biased because he is one of my fav actors who has given phenomenal performances. He was believable for me as an awkward, uptight patriarchal man who has not learnt otherwise. Nowhere near Jun Hyuk's character who was well-spoken, well brought up & educated in a somewhat normal family. Very different characterisations.
I liked Monte Cristo as well. I personally prefer this drama though they are both different. This is much more of a psychological drama that explores how his tragic past shaped his greed, which resulted in his downfall at the end. I also love the way this focused on the after-effects of the revenge, and how it didn't bring him the enjoyment he had hoped for. It is dark and chilling, unlike Monte Cristo that focused more on the revenge and the execution of his plan. To each his own..
I do think they dealt with Hidaka being a psycho in the first few episodes. The whole allergy episode that happened that was intense. I know it was somewhere in the beginning. All the blackmailing that was going on regarding the gloves & few other things (I can't remember).. I'd say she did try to give it back to him but was clearly no match for him. But yes now that you mention it, had they gone on with this, I would have loved to see how dark it would get, and how she would catch him.
DAMN THE COP ONE IS SUCH A COOL IDEA!! I would totally loved to have seen that.
You've got great ideas. Shit now I need to see that cop idea on screen. DAMN that would have been so freaking cool. Damnn I'll be honest I didn't think of more creative ways this could have been done, but you've got really really interesting ideas. Sell it to some writer!! HAHA
Yeah I get what you mean. I am a lawyer, and I am faced with the inhuman side of people all the time. Haha!
I know there are dramas that explored the effects, I can't remember the names. Let me get back to you on those.
Re: the 2 brothers. Yeah it's not anything new for sure. But I think the way the revelation happened (the whole context and all) it was very impactful for me. Completely agree on your thoughts regarding the sun/moon theory.
I'll be honest I think that watching the episode each week evokes very different feelings as to binging the whole thing (at least for me) & I waited each week for the mystery to be resolved, and to understand the sun/moon theory, so it was another level of satisfaction when it happened. Hehe.
ALSO THAT GIF FROM QUARTET AHHHH ONE OF MY FAVS!!! <3
Ok I won't confuse you, my answer tilts more towards a "yes"
For me personally, the best way to describe the ending is 'fitting'
I quite enjoyed the twist with Azuma being the one who was the psycho. To be honest, I did think in the beginning that Hidaka was a psycho but as we went on I found myself hoping that he wasn't (I am not sure why I wanted that lol)
I can see why you thought it was a red herring really because of all the crime that happened. But I think that's what I loved. Taking such a questionable subject matter, and twisting it into another angle? Rather than looking at it from a view of crime/punishment, action/consequences, to a view of 3 people stuck in this relationship that was ultimately a mother's love for her sons. It quite blew me away. Despite all the problematic stuff at the backdrop with what Azuma did, I found the revelation of the sun/moon theory & the swap emotionally stirring. To me that's quite a feat the writer achieved.
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Hopefully one of them will pick it up after the first episode airs, or after it is over.
You are free to like / dislike this drama, but don't be disrespectful.
WHAT THE HELL I DID NOT LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT. URGH WHY. WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE? Doesn't he have his story already.
Will see the next episode and see how it goes.
Seriously why do people not watch these kind of dramas?
I see. I definitely saw it differently because I didn't have the context of the way the military's existence is currently problematic. I just saw it as his character is rigid and patriarchal. Thank you for pointing that out.
I am also going to be 30 soon and while I don't live in Japan, I do face the constant criticisms & pressure to be married. Definitely agree that our perspectives and experiences shape the way we see things. I didn't really have a problem with her wanting to be married regardless. But I completely agree that she should have had a conversation with her ex regarding marriage if that was a priority, rather than heading into it and expecting that he would want the same.
Disagree on the Crash Landing on You references but I'll leave it as that.
I love Sakamato Yuji too! Can't wait for the first episode of his currently airing drama to be subbed!
I don't think her desire to be married and have a family stemmed merely from her age. If you watched the whole episode, it came about from her self-esteem issues and lack of familial affection at home & school. I don't think she was 'nice' at work either, given the way she clearly told the subordinate to do her work properly. Upon being confronted, she failed to fight back because the subordinate taunted her for her prettiness which has been a traumatic comment for her to hear since she was young. Also, there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to marry by the age of 33. Her decision. And it's not like she was pressured by anyone. She made the decision herself because she was moved by his romantic declaration.
Re: Eita. I didn't see him struggling either. Maybe I am biased because he is one of my fav actors who has given phenomenal performances. He was believable for me as an awkward, uptight patriarchal man who has not learnt otherwise. Nowhere near Jun Hyuk's character who was well-spoken, well brought up & educated in a somewhat normal family. Very different characterisations.
To each his own..