I hate being the person who goes 'I told you so' because this is no happy news to gloat over. But I hope that this is a wake up call for those who were defending him, or even saying that the allegations are not true.
The fact that a staff member has come forward to call out his rude behaviour on set, & the fact that he has been dropped from the project pretty much confirms that all the allegations (not just the bullying) are true. And now he is going off to the military. So much for repentance.
You do realise that many of them may have feared to tell the truth right? Not every victim is able to immediately…
This is my opinion. I am not claiming to know the truth.
1. All the material have obviously been made available to Ji Soo & his team, after which he penned the letter. He would not have penned it just because some random Tom Dick Harry blamed him. They had a ring of truth, thus the apology. Also, if it wasn't the truth, the production would not halt shooting & re-consider his contract.
2. I don't think people are wrong to assume that he is admitting to everything given that he, his agency & everyone is aware of the articles that came out. It is not our wrong for inferring / assuming that to be the case, it is the agency and his fault for not wording it better given the gravity of the allegations (if they are all not true)
3. I never said that it is ok for others to bully him by asking him to die. I have condemned it. But I do want to clarify that calling him out for his crime is not bullying.
4. With any crime involved, victims hardly come out in the open (especially in Asia, unlike the west). There is a reason the law changes victims' names, it is to protect their identity & them.
exactly, this attack of an "anonymous reveal" seems way too coordinated to just happen out of the blue. Someone…
Thank you for the article. Quoting from the article itself - these would not consist of majority.
"Research for the Home Office suggests that only 4% of cases of sexual violence reported to the UK police are found or suspected to be false. Studies carried out in Europe and in the US indicate rates of between 2% and 6%.
It’s important to recognise that even official statistics on false reporting can and have been inflated by other factors. Sometimes police record cases as “no crime” or “unfounded”. This can happen when it’s difficult to attain sufficient corroborating evidence. There is, however, a big difference between the inability to demonstrate in court that an offence has happened and claiming that these cases are false. These sorts of cases have nevertheless been conflated with false allegations."
I work in this field so I know what goes on. I've got work to do & I'm too tired to engage in a dispute on this online. I respect your opinion. Please feel free to hold on to it.
Too tired to respond to the various sick comments so I'm just gonna vent here. I don't know the truth, none of us know it. But this is my opinion.
1. He is very much aware of the allegations that have surfaced against him. The fact that he gave such a blanket apology means that he has accepted everything. The law also works that way. Unless you specify what you're petitioning against, you're taken to have accepted all the allegations. If that is not the case, the fault is with him & his agency for not wording the letter better.
2. Acts associated with bullying are considered a crime. Sexual assault is a crime. These are crimes, regardless of the circumstances you committed them in, regardless of your age, regardless of your intention. The gravity and intensity of both crimes differ but they both violate another physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically & in so many many ways. Also, just because bullying is common, it doesn't mean it should be normalized.
3. Just because a victim has come out to reveal such information after years does not and should not be a reason to discredit him/her. It takes immense courage to fight for yourself and reveal such information. Most people are not able to expose their bullies immediately. It takes time, effort, courage and a lot of pain to get there.
4. People who are calling him out for his crime are not bullying him. Those who are asking him to die are the ones bullying him and that is wrong. Please don't do that. You are discrediting those who are fighting for a genuine cause, and making Ji Soo into a victim.
5. Yes, he may have repented. But there is no way for any one of us to know that. The only way we will know is through his actions. The letter did not appear sincere. Mere apologies will not cut it, even if it was something he did as a teen.
exactly, this attack of an "anonymous reveal" seems way too coordinated to just happen out of the blue. Someone…
Going to copy/paste my reply to another user here
He is very much aware of the allegations that have surfaced against him. The fact that he gave such a blanket apology means that he has accepted everything. The law also works that way. Unless you specify what you're petitioning against, you're taken to have accepted all the allegations.
When you mean 'most cases.. want compensation' I am curious about the statistics and sources you are referring to because that is not true. Please don't make such generic statements.
You do realise that many of them may have feared to tell the truth right? Not every victim is able to immediately…
He is very much aware of the allegations that have surfaced against him. The fact that he gave such a blanket apology means that he has accepted everything. The law also works that way. Unless you specify what you're petitioning against, you're taken to have accepted all the allegations.
While age does serve a factor in the gravity of punishment, it should not affect the judgement in any other way. Regardless of what age he was at, he had full mental capacity to understand that bullying and assault are wrong. This is why so many of us are saying that what he did wasn't a mere mistake. It was a crime, that even a young kid who may not understand the term 'bullying' or 'assault' knows that you don't just hit someone or you don't just touch someone when they are uncomfortable. They amount to basic manners/values.
Yes, there are countless people around the world who bully and assault, whether as a teen or as an adult. But that does not mean it is ok.
Also, his agency will never (and you can take my word on that) ask him to write up an apology letter if he didn't do anything wrong. They will deny it all the way. They have the means to fight those allegations. The very fact that he accepted them means that they are true.
I hope that the show releases footages of Kamiki voicing Fukumaru in the studio. I would love to see his expressions while dubbing. It must be so much fun! He is doing such a fine job!
What he did was a crime and he deserves punishment like any other normal citizen would face for their crime. Calling…
Then please be SPECIFIC. Don't label everyone who is condemning him or calling him out for his act as a bully. I have nothing against you. I am just correcting your choice of words, which I found to be unfair to those of us who are fighting for a legitimate cause.
And yes, I do agree with you. Regardless of what he did, no one has the right to tell him to die or wish him death. That is cruel, and doesn't make us any better of a human than he is.
I just want y’all to know cyber bullying is another form of bullying.
What he did was a crime and he deserves punishment like any other normal citizen would face for their crime. Calling him out for it is NOT bullying. None of us are telling him to die, all we are saying is that he should be punished legally, and that people who are supporting him should understand the gravity of what they are saying and supporting.
Also before calling out those of us who are condemning his actions, please educate yourself on the nature of what he did, and how he has destroyed the lives of those who were his victims.
Haha the younger FL's acting is absolutely loud & cringy for me lol. She's the only one whose acting I can't stand. I wish they casted better for her role. I respect your opinion though. To each his own.
My curiosity got the better of me, and I decided to check out the 1st episode to see how bad it was. Somebody said this was worse than Coffee & Vanilla, whose 1st episode made me want to puke, and man this was equally bad.
It was interesting the first 10 mins or so & then it went downhill from there with guys just kissing her without her consent and dragging her into rooms. What kind of message are they trying to portray? The way they presented the FL pissed me off. And the worst trying to pass it off as romantic, when it is anything but that. This was downright disturbing and creepy.
There are way better romantic Japanese dramas out there. Do yourself a favour, watch softcore / p*rn instead of watching this trash if you want something steamy. At least they present things for what it is.
Forgiveness is a great virtue & I respect what you're saying but if forgiveness was all it takes, then why have law & order? Yes, he may have changed. But that does not render him any less guilty for what he did, and he should pay for it, like countless others pay when they commit crimes.
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The fact that a staff member has come forward to call out his rude behaviour on set, & the fact that he has been dropped from the project pretty much confirms that all the allegations (not just the bullying) are true. And now he is going off to the military. So much for repentance.
1. All the material have obviously been made available to Ji Soo & his team, after which he penned the letter. He would not have penned it just because some random Tom Dick Harry blamed him. They had a ring of truth, thus the apology. Also, if it wasn't the truth, the production would not halt shooting & re-consider his contract.
2. I don't think people are wrong to assume that he is admitting to everything given that he, his agency & everyone is aware of the articles that came out. It is not our wrong for inferring / assuming that to be the case, it is the agency and his fault for not wording it better given the gravity of the allegations (if they are all not true)
3. I never said that it is ok for others to bully him by asking him to die. I have condemned it. But I do want to clarify that calling him out for his crime is not bullying.
4. With any crime involved, victims hardly come out in the open (especially in Asia, unlike the west). There is a reason the law changes victims' names, it is to protect their identity & them.
Adios.
"Research for the Home Office suggests that only 4% of cases of sexual violence reported to the UK police are found or suspected to be false. Studies carried out in Europe and in the US indicate rates of between 2% and 6%.
It’s important to recognise that even official statistics on false reporting can and have been inflated by other factors. Sometimes police record cases as “no crime” or “unfounded”. This can happen when it’s difficult to attain sufficient corroborating evidence. There is, however, a big difference between the inability to demonstrate in court that an offence has happened and claiming that these cases are false. These sorts of cases have nevertheless been conflated with false allegations."
I work in this field so I know what goes on. I've got work to do & I'm too tired to engage in a dispute on this online. I respect your opinion. Please feel free to hold on to it.
1. He is very much aware of the allegations that have surfaced against him. The fact that he gave such a blanket apology means that he has accepted everything. The law also works that way. Unless you specify what you're petitioning against, you're taken to have accepted all the allegations. If that is not the case, the fault is with him & his agency for not wording the letter better.
2. Acts associated with bullying are considered a crime. Sexual assault is a crime. These are crimes, regardless of the circumstances you committed them in, regardless of your age, regardless of your intention. The gravity and intensity of both crimes differ but they both violate another physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically & in so many many ways. Also, just because bullying is common, it doesn't mean it should be normalized.
3. Just because a victim has come out to reveal such information after years does not and should not be a reason to discredit him/her. It takes immense courage to fight for yourself and reveal such information. Most people are not able to expose their bullies immediately. It takes time, effort, courage and a lot of pain to get there.
4. People who are calling him out for his crime are not bullying him. Those who are asking him to die are the ones bullying him and that is wrong. Please don't do that. You are discrediting those who are fighting for a genuine cause, and making Ji Soo into a victim.
5. Yes, he may have repented. But there is no way for any one of us to know that. The only way we will know is through his actions. The letter did not appear sincere. Mere apologies will not cut it, even if it was something he did as a teen.
He is very much aware of the allegations that have surfaced against him. The fact that he gave such a blanket apology means that he has accepted everything. The law also works that way. Unless you specify what you're petitioning against, you're taken to have accepted all the allegations.
When you mean 'most cases.. want compensation' I am curious about the statistics and sources you are referring to because that is not true. Please don't make such generic statements.
While age does serve a factor in the gravity of punishment, it should not affect the judgement in any other way. Regardless of what age he was at, he had full mental capacity to understand that bullying and assault are wrong. This is why so many of us are saying that what he did wasn't a mere mistake. It was a crime, that even a young kid who may not understand the term 'bullying' or 'assault' knows that you don't just hit someone or you don't just touch someone when they are uncomfortable. They amount to basic manners/values.
Yes, there are countless people around the world who bully and assault, whether as a teen or as an adult. But that does not mean it is ok.
Also, his agency will never (and you can take my word on that) ask him to write up an apology letter if he didn't do anything wrong. They will deny it all the way. They have the means to fight those allegations. The very fact that he accepted them means that they are true.
And yes, I do agree with you. Regardless of what he did, no one has the right to tell him to die or wish him death. That is cruel, and doesn't make us any better of a human than he is.
Also before calling out those of us who are condemning his actions, please educate yourself on the nature of what he did, and how he has destroyed the lives of those who were his victims.
I respect your opinion though. To each his own.
It was interesting the first 10 mins or so & then it went downhill from there with guys just kissing her without her consent and dragging her into rooms. What kind of message are they trying to portray? The way they presented the FL pissed me off. And the worst trying to pass it off as romantic, when it is anything but that. This was downright disturbing and creepy.
There are way better romantic Japanese dramas out there. Do yourself a favour, watch softcore / p*rn instead of watching this trash if you want something steamy. At least they present things for what it is.