theres also no law or anything morally wrong with an atorny to provide acomodtions for a client when his life…
It's not illegal but it is considered unethical, and presents a conflict of interest. This can severely damage a case. This show isn't very accurate legally so I doubt they'll go that route, other than some mud-slinging of their characters especially hers.
Another drama that could have been told in 6-8 episodes but is stretched thin.Can we focus on the case, please,…
I appreciate your reply.
The story has a heart and makes me want to root for the characters, so that has kept me going. But overall, the drama leaves a lot to be desired.
First off, I never judge a drama for the story it's telling. I take the story for what it is and that means I don't have a pre-set expectation on where it ought to go. The writer decides that and for me, the first 2 episodes made it clear that this was going to be a mystery with some romance. But as the episodes went by, the story has clearly derailed. If a show needs me to watch the interviews to clarify the genre, then it has clearly failed. The fact is they're trying to focus on too many things all at once, and that makes it messy. I don't need to know the prosecutor's back story. I don't need to know about the 2ML loving the FL. I don't need to know about 2FL's daddy issues. . They're not adding anything to the story. Sometimes side character stories make the general drama richer, but in this case, no. It is only stretching it. In 7 episodes, just what have we learned about the murder? Nothing, except that the ML didn't do it. Even that the show hasn't actually 100% proven. We are just supposed to believe the ML, and it's a SK drama so obviously they won't go too dark to make him the criminal.
If it's indeed character-driven like you said (which I disagree), then it clearly has failed for me. You said that the mystery is the catalyst to explore these 2 characters - but in 7 episodes, what have we actually explored about them? We have merely touched surface with these characters. She had a past where she couldn't believe her father and that probably drove her towards law. He's had horrible relationships and that makes him sometimes rude, selfish and lonely. That's it. Who are they now and how do they operate - their psychology is so unclear.
As someone who is a lawyer and actually fights for criminals, she is way too trusting in the idol. There is a lot of inconsistency in the way the character is written. Yes he saved her and she owes him her life, but where is the romantic expectation coming from? The fact that she didn't eat and was heartbroken when he was dating, that emotion is very inconsistent to the logical character who works with evidence. They were probably going for the dual personality vibe - logical lawyer in the day, fangirl at night. But that's where the writer's lack of knowledge or research about psychology is apparent - lawyers tend to become very wired to form conclusions based on observations and evidence. Fangirling over a caleb to the extent she does isn't something a lawyer of her calibre would do. Where is her ethical dilemma; a lawyer living with her client and engaging in a romantic relationship is a clear conflict of interest. These are one of the first few things taught at law school. Also, these dramas really under-estimate the amount of paper work, research and writing lawyers have to do. She's really got a lot of time on her hand for all those submissions. Of course I am not expecting them to go into the nitty-gritty since its not a legal drama, but given that this is not exactly fictional and presents a more real story, you'd expect the treatment to be more real as well.
Oh yes, and need I mention this is not a romcom. The word romcom is used very loosely and romcom means romantic comedy. There is nothing comedic about this show at all. The romance is also under-developed to say the least where the show is yet to make me understand why she has romantic expectations from him.
He's clearly mentally ill, defensive and aloof to an extent but the fact that he settles in her house a little too quickly - it was done very safely. He has untrusting relationships all around and he puts his trust in her that easily? Nope this should have been darker and that's the problem with a lot of dramas in South Korea. They always play it too safe. I don't expect him to be sitting around, miserable all day. But its very basic human psychology that when you are pushed to a corner - you either retreat or you push back. He's not pushing back, but he's not retreating either. He's just taking whatever that is thrown at him and his character is going around in circles rather than actually responding to the situation at hand. A mere change in environment will not relax one's symptoms - rather in most cases, it makes the person obsess over the new circumstances and anxious. He has panic disorder. Does the writer know how that works? Clearly not. But yes, again the writer just wants to present a boy meets girl love story packaged in a murder mystery. The fact that he has murdered has added very little to the dynamic other than we're in this together.
Anyway based on your reply, they'll leave all the development for the last few episodes. Right now they need to add fillers. And you're telling me for a 12 episode drama, it takes him 10 episodes to start to do something? Nahh
As both a psychology and legal major - this show has failed in developing the characters and exploring the basic mystery. Not gonna go in depth about the mess the whole investigation and legal proceedings are because clearly the writer does not know how that works other than what he/she picked up from some dramas and movies. Romance, too, is not well-developed with surface level conversations. Leads can act and have chemistry so I can see why many ppl love this.
Episode 7. Heights of stupidity.This could have been told concisely in 6 episodes, but they need to stretch it…
Another drama that could have been told in 6-8 episodes but is stretched thin.
Can we focus on the case, please, instead of all this side characters who are adding nothing to the case / story also, yes, I understand that he feels betrayed But isn't survival key? She's a fan but hey, she's that one fan who has been on your side and is fighting for you against the world. How many people stepped up to fight for you? ZERO. What does he intend to do? In fact, what has he even been doing all this while? She has been the one fighting, researching and using her brain for the case. He's hardly contributed. Also this guy's logic that he wants someone to be on his side- question thrown back to him, is he on anybody's side? He wants ppl to know him for who he is, but he makes zero effort to show his real side and be real with others. Clear gimmicks from writer to stretch the plot The cracks in the writing are becoming more and more apparent, What happened to his mental illness? How is he being chirpy and comfortable just sitting around when he's being investigated for murder?
Episode 7. Heights of stupidity. This could have been told concisely in 6 episodes, but they need to stretch it endlessly. The drama lacks direction - i can't tell what it wants to be; romance? melodrama? suspense? legal? It's all over the place. Instead of focusing on the main premise, they're spending time on 2ML's unrequited love, 2FL's daddy issues, prosecutor and his family's political ambitions etc Struggling to continue with this.
Can someone give me a list of good dramas with a rating lower than 8? The site is good, but the ratings are very…
If you're looking specifically for South Korean dramas, then I'd recommend-
Heard it Through the Grapevine Secret Love Affair Empire of Gold Flower Boy Next Door Heart to Heart Cheese in the Trap
For Japanese and Taiwanese dramas - pretty much 75% of them, as they don't have avid fans who create multiple accounts to bump up ratings or rate purely based on couple scenes. Would love to share some recommendations if you want.
It's amazing how vividly I still remember almost every scene of this drama even though I watched it back when it was airing So basically I saw someone watching this on the train today and I noticed that after the first meeting of the 2ML and FL - netflix took out a small bit where Shin Hyuk sings and dances to Billie Jean is not my lover (the bit after she runs off and he notices her black loafer and white socks) So yeah that's how strong my memories of this drama are LOL
Side note: I miss how funny South Korean romcoms used to be... OSTs were wonderful too.
I always kept confusing it with Nodame Cantabile and avoided it. But why Concerto? I don't see music related to…
Dudeeee SAMEEEEEEE. For some reason I thought they were the same drama too so I thought I have already watched it and then today I randomly came across this in Oguri Shun's profile and I was like WAIT I don't remember seeing him in Nodame Cantabile LOL After all these years I finally realised they're not the same show
He re-married and even has another kid?! WOW.. man be busy making another baby while refusing to pay financial support for the other children. Sighhh anyway good luck to his wife. Let's see how long this one lasts before he gets bored, and seeks another young girl.
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The story has a heart and makes me want to root for the characters, so that has kept me going. But overall, the drama leaves a lot to be desired.
First off, I never judge a drama for the story it's telling. I take the story for what it is and that means I don't have a pre-set expectation on where it ought to go. The writer decides that and for me, the first 2 episodes made it clear that this was going to be a mystery with some romance. But as the episodes went by, the story has clearly derailed. If a show needs me to watch the interviews to clarify the genre, then it has clearly failed. The fact is they're trying to focus on too many things all at once, and that makes it messy. I don't need to know the prosecutor's back story. I don't need to know about the 2ML loving the FL. I don't need to know about 2FL's daddy issues. . They're not adding anything to the story. Sometimes side character stories make the general drama richer, but in this case, no. It is only stretching it. In 7 episodes, just what have we learned about the murder? Nothing, except that the ML didn't do it. Even that the show hasn't actually 100% proven. We are just supposed to believe the ML, and it's a SK drama so obviously they won't go too dark to make him the criminal.
If it's indeed character-driven like you said (which I disagree), then it clearly has failed for me. You said that the mystery is the catalyst to explore these 2 characters - but in 7 episodes, what have we actually explored about them? We have merely touched surface with these characters. She had a past where she couldn't believe her father and that probably drove her towards law. He's had horrible relationships and that makes him sometimes rude, selfish and lonely. That's it. Who are they now and how do they operate - their psychology is so unclear.
As someone who is a lawyer and actually fights for criminals, she is way too trusting in the idol. There is a lot of inconsistency in the way the character is written. Yes he saved her and she owes him her life, but where is the romantic expectation coming from? The fact that she didn't eat and was heartbroken when he was dating, that emotion is very inconsistent to the logical character who works with evidence. They were probably going for the dual personality vibe - logical lawyer in the day, fangirl at night. But that's where the writer's lack of knowledge or research about psychology is apparent - lawyers tend to become very wired to form conclusions based on observations and evidence. Fangirling over a caleb to the extent she does isn't something a lawyer of her calibre would do. Where is her ethical dilemma; a lawyer living with her client and engaging in a romantic relationship is a clear conflict of interest. These are one of the first few things taught at law school. Also, these dramas really under-estimate the amount of paper work, research and writing lawyers have to do. She's really got a lot of time on her hand for all those submissions. Of course I am not expecting them to go into the nitty-gritty since its not a legal drama, but given that this is not exactly fictional and presents a more real story, you'd expect the treatment to be more real as well.
Oh yes, and need I mention this is not a romcom. The word romcom is used very loosely and romcom means romantic comedy. There is nothing comedic about this show at all. The romance is also under-developed to say the least where the show is yet to make me understand why she has romantic expectations from him.
He's clearly mentally ill, defensive and aloof to an extent but the fact that he settles in her house a little too quickly - it was done very safely. He has untrusting relationships all around and he puts his trust in her that easily? Nope this should have been darker and that's the problem with a lot of dramas in South Korea. They always play it too safe.
I don't expect him to be sitting around, miserable all day. But its very basic human psychology that when you are pushed to a corner - you either retreat or you push back. He's not pushing back, but he's not retreating either. He's just taking whatever that is thrown at him and his character is going around in circles rather than actually responding to the situation at hand. A mere change in environment will not relax one's symptoms - rather in most cases, it makes the person obsess over the new circumstances and anxious. He has panic disorder. Does the writer know how that works? Clearly not. But yes, again the writer just wants to present a boy meets girl love story packaged in a murder mystery. The fact that he has murdered has added very little to the dynamic other than we're in this together.
Anyway based on your reply, they'll leave all the development for the last few episodes. Right now they need to add fillers. And you're telling me for a 12 episode drama, it takes him 10 episodes to start to do something? Nahh
As both a psychology and legal major - this show has failed in developing the characters and exploring the basic mystery. Not gonna go in depth about the mess the whole investigation and legal proceedings are because clearly the writer does not know how that works other than what he/she picked up from some dramas and movies. Romance, too, is not well-developed with surface level conversations. Leads can act and have chemistry so I can see why many ppl love this.
Can we focus on the case, please, instead of all this side characters who are adding nothing to the case / story
also, yes, I understand that he feels betrayed
But isn't survival key? She's a fan but hey, she's that one fan who has been on your side and is fighting for you against the world. How many people stepped up to fight for you? ZERO.
What does he intend to do? In fact, what has he even been doing all this while? She has been the one fighting, researching and using her brain for the case. He's hardly contributed.
Also this guy's logic that he wants someone to be on his side- question thrown back to him, is he on anybody's side? He wants ppl to know him for who he is, but he makes zero effort to show his real side and be real with others.
Clear gimmicks from writer to stretch the plot
The cracks in the writing are becoming more and more apparent,
What happened to his mental illness? How is he being chirpy and comfortable just sitting around when he's being investigated for murder?
This could have been told concisely in 6 episodes, but they need to stretch it endlessly.
The drama lacks direction - i can't tell what it wants to be; romance? melodrama? suspense? legal? It's all over the place.
Instead of focusing on the main premise, they're spending time on 2ML's unrequited love, 2FL's daddy issues, prosecutor and his family's political ambitions etc
Struggling to continue with this.
Heard it Through the Grapevine
Secret Love Affair
Empire of Gold
Flower Boy Next Door
Heart to Heart
Cheese in the Trap
For Japanese and Taiwanese dramas - pretty much 75% of them, as they don't have avid fans who create multiple accounts to bump up ratings or rate purely based on couple scenes. Would love to share some recommendations if you want.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9omwq6
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9omwq6
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9omwq6
So sorry!
https://kisskh.at/list/3m6qxkj4
https://kisskh.at/12468-date-koi-to-wa-donna-mono-kashira
Thank you for letting me know :)
So basically I saw someone watching this on the train today and I noticed that after the first meeting of the 2ML and FL - netflix took out a small bit where Shin Hyuk sings and dances to Billie Jean is not my lover (the bit after she runs off and he notices her black loafer and white socks)
So yeah that's how strong my memories of this drama are LOL
Side note: I miss how funny South Korean romcoms used to be... OSTs were wonderful too.
SAMEEEEEEE. For some reason I thought they were the same drama too so I thought I have already watched it and then today I randomly came across this in Oguri Shun's profile and I was like WAIT I don't remember seeing him in Nodame Cantabile LOL
After all these years I finally realised they're not the same show
Rich Man Poor Woman
Hana Kimi
He's known to do more political / action / crime stuff, though there isn't any genre he hasn't attempted.
WOW.. man be busy making another baby while refusing to pay financial support for the other children.
Sighhh anyway good luck to his wife.
Let's see how long this one lasts before he gets bored, and seeks another young girl.