I am obviously gonna watch this for P💘sh and Devika but my God whatever is wrong with this girl? I know Thai dramas owe nothing to logic that's why only reacted by loling at the girl with experience, awards and connections in Milan being hapless in Thailand and her being confident and feisty but not to the point to actually do something about being wrongly accused. This is all classic Thai drama syndrome. But who on earth is so messy to leave behind a highway of mess wherever they live?! Like who?! Have you been living in a dump of bedding and food and whatever exist in the house hodgepodged togeher even in Milan? Who cleaned after you? Do you secretly have a princess syndrome or ogre? Gir, hi! Get a 24/7 cleaning service to live with you! And also she's shown to be a victim of a lot of unfairness, but man is she unlikable as f*ck.
This is a solid 10 for me. I mean no shade to Thai dramas because I love watching them, but Lakorns and even non-lakorny thai dramas have a certain signature style to them which instantly register them as Thai dramas in your brain. They have certain eccentricities, unusual plots, damning of basic logic and a consistent inconsistency in storytelling and dialogues, without compromising the entertainment though. I have been watching Thai dramas for 8 years now and have stalked and begged (courteously) subbers and stayed in anxiety over missing my favorite upcoming ones for lack of subs. But never have I ever watched a Thai movie or drama like this before. Honestly, if I was not so familiar with the sound of the language by now I'd have thought it from some other country. Again no disrespect to the conventional thai dramas, this was just a surprise.
This was international film festival level good. The writing, the acting, the cinematography, the locations, the sets, the making Phuket and the acting craft two of the main characters, every freaking thing was a blast. The characters and their stories were realistic.
Yes the in part 2 the cheating and the getting another chance too. I hate cheating plots, but do it like this, like if you see you think, well ya, if i am really hopelessly in love with someone even if they cheat and even if i hate them, if given some time to heal i'll prolly go back too to give it a final try. Like that friend of oh-aew said, how will you know if you don't try. ANd don't sprinkle angst for unnecessary drama, request. It's not staying in a toxic relationship, nah, it's getting back after both are matured and time has passed. The ending was even if not what I had wished for, believable.
In part 1 the realization of one's sexuality and struggling to accept yourself and in doing so hurting the other person, yes, real freaking life.
Do I hate Teh in both parts? Honestly, not at all in the first. In the second, I was getting a feeling that this could happen given his character, he's very sticktoitive when comes to finishing a commitment with anything in life, so that needed to be counterbalanced with a fatal flaw. And cheating was it. Oh-aew is just the opposite. A quitter in all but love. Teh wanted ohaew to stay like before and finish the journey they both planned, beside him. But as Ohaew started changing Teh started to get confused again. Again, they are still very young in both these seasons till the time leap when Teh finally assumably grew up. It is to see if he cherishes Ohaew now but then again you can't predict human nature unless you are a sneaky algo.
I loved this piece of art with its beautiful titles. Glad that this was not my first Thai drama or bl. It'd have been ruinous for my Thai drama watching from thereon if it was.
p.s. How could I forget this! The chemistry! There was 1 kiss in the first season but the expression of desire was so accurately shown through every other details, like Teh sniffing ohaew's written papers, the coconut that reminded him of Ohaew's hair, and so on. If Teh's desire for Ohaew from season 1 could be captured in a bottle it could've lit up the whole Phuket. In the same way in season 2 the desire curve started to shift from Ohaew to the other guy while Ohaew+Teh's chemistry settled into gradual domesticity from the sparks in spite of that lovemaking. It was so well done.
This is one of my fave dramas of all time. Not just from Thailand, from everywhere. But I gotta say this, as many times I watch this my irritation with Mae Jumpa grows as unboundedly. And tbh I'd have loved Karakaed's character the most if she didn't have the tendency to spill blood. That girl is a survivor. She's an orphan come to a new place where she's supposed to get married and received by not the lady of the house. To top it off, no one except the father gives her even a little break from the get go on the basis of rumors. Her fiancé is openly flirting with another women (later tells that woman that he always saw her as a nong 🤨and tells kedsura that he only ever had eyes for her😂😂😂). That woman acts like karaked is a roadbump on her and that dude's flirting and everyone considers that Ying Janward bitch a genteel woman 🤣🤣🤣
I like Kaedsura a lot but wish she had Karaked's tang. She's wide eyed and bushy tailed alright but too sweet to handle this ancient prejudiced bunch. She needed a safety pin personality.
Nevertheless, I love it to bits and am extremely offended that Netflix has not made this available to my place🤬 I am just suddenly sooo craving for this😥
I though XY tried not to answer the question and go the round about thing. With that answer, it implied she’s…
That's really unfortunate!😥 I wanna watch this so bad bc i love the leads but the subs are confusing the hell outta me along with diluting the romantic buildup between the mc. I am kinda used to watching imperfect subs for Lakorns but this is just hella interruption in fully enjoying the characters and the lovestory. Like imagine a character like Yanshi saying "Robot logic"! 🤷♂️
I though XY tried not to answer the question and go the round about thing. With that answer, it implied she’s…
Good decoding. I couldn't have figured that out. Are you watching with the same subs? I think there's a problem with the translation or the dialogs couldn't have been this difficult to understand (at least for me). I need a reader's companion for these.
Like in another scene in the same episode, XY goes to Li's office and Li's trying to convince her or something that she's better than the tech team saying how Yan Shi is so talented but still stuck in the same position for a long time and her monolog is exactly this: "Let's talk about Xu Yanshi. After so many years you didn't even get an A-contract. I am still a B-class employee. In addition to the restructuring of the company in the past 2 years and the year end assessment you're getting smarter every year, and you can't get much money..." Then it changes to "he" for a line and then she talks about some other employee and uses the same "you" for him.
Another scene. The tech team is at a dinner party, XY not present. These exact dialogs: Huang De Yi's GF (forgot her name) to Yanshi: Where is XY? Yanshi: What's up GF: Forget it. I think you are the fundamental one. I am too embarrassed to call her. Yanshi: I have nothing to be embarrassed about. GF: If you are not embarrassed, do you dare to chase after him? Ynashi: Robber logic It goes on like this. Pronoun hopping and what not! The dialogues are also choppy.
Ep-4: Li Qin walks out of Yan Shi's office meets eye with Xiang Yuan sitting outside in her chair and XY asks Li, you wanna ask me something, miss Li. She answers, where are you from?. XY answers, Shanghai. Li asks wat do your parents do in Shanghai and XY answers exactly this: "His parents passed away early, so he lived with Grandpa". 🤯 And Yan Shi in his office thinks to himself, " could it be that our family has fallen into disarray". 🤯🤯
Who are they talking about and for whom is XY answering? This is the whole subtitle health. I dont get what is happening bc I don't understand what they are saying. It's not bad grammar bc that's nothing, but it's just too incoherent dialogues for me to get what's going on. 😥
I'll have to wait till Viki makes it border free. 😭😭
I only have Viki subscription from the above and it's not available in my country on Viki so having to watch from DC but the subs are so absurd most of the times that all is getting lost in translation here🥺Where are they ripping it from?
This has to be 1 of my fave couples. I mean Bin Bin and Janice together! Chemistry got nowhere to escape. And these 2 are 2 of my fave actors. They better not be ruining it with 49 side couples having 94% of screen time like Little Forest. Or I'll sue.
This Lakorn did what all contemporary ones don't. 90% screentime of Michael, topless 😂😂 Michael and Mook's chemistry is fail proof. But the Lakorn is so exhausting to watch because of this constant obsessive deranged behavior of Bua which is the central theme of the Lakorn. The girl is so batty with the goal of owning the praek that she'll be killing people and laughing like the 80's villains in her umpteenth incarnation, that too at the age of what 70(?). Like seriously, get a healthy hobby grams!
When I started the drama I thought it'll be one of those time in a village healing the heart burn kind with the cute piglet and sad misunderstood pig story intro. But it went south within 15 minutes.
I commend the writer's undertaking this genre mixed bad project and completing it without making it a total botch job. In spite of some issues like the pacing and proportioning of the 3 acts or the plot holes like the hits on Kang Ho being too few given the stature and reach of his enemies, it finished pretty decently. Rushed, yes. But not a hot mess or anything.
This wasn't perfect, but this was good still.
I enjoyed Kang Ho's recovery time in the village and Do Hyun and Eun Jin's cute chemistry the most. The family and neighborhood were obviously the motifs the writer seemed to be going for. The cast was stellar so the enjoyment came a lot from their acting and how their characters and interactions were written. Everyone but Mijoo was a flawed character. They envied, they helped, they needled, they loved one another. Like humans. Imperfect.
I disliked the mom despite her sad story, but the writer didn't justify her behavior like I assumed they would. Instead, they had her realize through the suffering of her child and made her acknowledge that her way of raising her son was not right and was the reason of the terrible consequences.
I am not satisfied with how easily Mijoo forgave rather begged and sought excuses to forgive Kang Ho though. this is just my personal opinion. I know why she did it. It's like her character, so sweet. But as a viewer I thought like Kang Ho's mother, he too involved a completely unaware person in his not-straightforward life and then dumped her without a clear explanation. I know, she didn't ask for one but he owed it to her. she didn't know the story of his plan. It was his responsibility to be transparent with the person who he was allowing to support him, monetarily and emotionally, during his prep. The path of his plan was unpredictable from the beginning even if he didn't know how messy, difficult and crime-ridden it'd be. It was humiliating and heart breaking for Mijoo to have gone through everything alone and then finding out the real reason so tricky that one can't even hate and penalize that person. What would've happened if he died or never recovered? Mijoo woul've never known and forever stayed in this "I was abandoned" state. I am not as forgiving as Mijoo, I am rather the other girl who helped her father in attempting to kill Kang Ho on the basis of a fake info. I understand kang ho had gone through enough pain in his life so didn't need another test from Mijoo. But she was never the reason of his hurts, it was the other way around.
I understand the mother's painful journey but that really shouldn't alleviate her robbing her son of all agency. When she thought he should be a prosecutor she made his childhood traumatic from overstrictness and now when she realized that he's on a path of revenge she's again burning all his long time labor when he's not even in the condition to argue or stop her. Pretty sure all will be explained away in the garb of mother's love.
And also she's shown to be a victim of a lot of unfairness, but man is she unlikable as f*ck.
This is a solid 10 for me. I mean no shade to Thai dramas because I love watching them, but Lakorns and even non-lakorny thai dramas have a certain signature style to them which instantly register them as Thai dramas in your brain. They have certain eccentricities, unusual plots, damning of basic logic and a consistent inconsistency in storytelling and dialogues, without compromising the entertainment though. I have been watching Thai dramas for 8 years now and have stalked and begged (courteously) subbers and stayed in anxiety over missing my favorite upcoming ones for lack of subs. But never have I ever watched a Thai movie or drama like this before. Honestly, if I was not so familiar with the sound of the language by now I'd have thought it from some other country. Again no disrespect to the conventional thai dramas, this was just a surprise.
This was international film festival level good. The writing, the acting, the cinematography, the locations, the sets, the making Phuket and the acting craft two of the main characters, every freaking thing was a blast. The characters and their stories were realistic.
Yes the in part 2 the cheating and the getting another chance too. I hate cheating plots, but do it like this, like if you see you think, well ya, if i am really hopelessly in love with someone even if they cheat and even if i hate them, if given some time to heal i'll prolly go back too to give it a final try. Like that friend of oh-aew said, how will you know if you don't try. ANd don't sprinkle angst for unnecessary drama, request. It's not staying in a toxic relationship, nah, it's getting back after both are matured and time has passed. The ending was even if not what I had wished for, believable.
In part 1 the realization of one's sexuality and struggling to accept yourself and in doing so hurting the other person, yes, real freaking life.
Do I hate Teh in both parts? Honestly, not at all in the first. In the second, I was getting a feeling that this could happen given his character, he's very sticktoitive when comes to finishing a commitment with anything in life, so that needed to be counterbalanced with a fatal flaw. And cheating was it. Oh-aew is just the opposite. A quitter in all but love. Teh wanted ohaew to stay like before and finish the journey they both planned, beside him. But as Ohaew started changing Teh started to get confused again. Again, they are still very young in both these seasons till the time leap when Teh finally assumably grew up. It is to see if he cherishes Ohaew now but then again you can't predict human nature unless you are a sneaky algo.
I loved this piece of art with its beautiful titles. Glad that this was not my first Thai drama or bl. It'd have been ruinous for my Thai drama watching from thereon if it was.
p.s. How could I forget this! The chemistry! There was 1 kiss in the first season but the expression of desire was so accurately shown through every other details, like Teh sniffing ohaew's written papers, the coconut that reminded him of Ohaew's hair, and so on. If Teh's desire for Ohaew from season 1 could be captured in a bottle it could've lit up the whole Phuket. In the same way in season 2 the desire curve started to shift from Ohaew to the other guy while Ohaew+Teh's chemistry settled into gradual domesticity from the sparks in spite of that lovemaking. It was so well done.
I like Kaedsura a lot but wish she had Karaked's tang. She's wide eyed and bushy tailed alright but too sweet to handle this ancient prejudiced bunch. She needed a safety pin personality.
Nevertheless, I love it to bits and am extremely offended that Netflix has not made this available to my place🤬 I am just suddenly sooo craving for this😥
Like in another scene in the same episode, XY goes to Li's office and Li's trying to convince her or something that she's better than the tech team saying how Yan Shi is so talented but still stuck in the same position for a long time and her monolog is exactly this:
"Let's talk about Xu Yanshi. After so many years you didn't even get an A-contract. I am still a B-class employee. In addition to the restructuring of the company in the past 2 years and the year end assessment you're getting smarter every year, and you can't get much money..."
Then it changes to "he" for a line and then she talks about some other employee and uses the same "you" for him.
Another scene. The tech team is at a dinner party, XY not present. These exact dialogs:
Huang De Yi's GF (forgot her name) to Yanshi: Where is XY?
Yanshi: What's up
GF: Forget it. I think you are the fundamental one. I am too embarrassed to call her.
Yanshi: I have nothing to be embarrassed about.
GF: If you are not embarrassed, do you dare to chase after him?
Ynashi: Robber logic
It goes on like this. Pronoun hopping and what not! The dialogues are also choppy.
Who are they talking about and for whom is XY answering? This is the whole subtitle health. I dont get what is happening bc I don't understand what they are saying. It's not bad grammar bc that's nothing, but it's just too incoherent dialogues for me to get what's going on. 😥
I'll have to wait till Viki makes it border free. 😭😭
p.s. I did try to watch it twice then paused for later.
Michael and Mook's chemistry is fail proof. But the Lakorn is so exhausting to watch because of this constant obsessive deranged behavior of Bua which is the central theme of the Lakorn. The girl is so batty with the goal of owning the praek that she'll be killing people and laughing like the 80's villains in her umpteenth incarnation, that too at the age of what 70(?). Like seriously, get a healthy hobby grams!
I commend the writer's undertaking this genre mixed bad project and completing it without making it a total botch job. In spite of some issues like the pacing and proportioning of the 3 acts or the plot holes like the hits on Kang Ho being too few given the stature and reach of his enemies, it finished pretty decently. Rushed, yes. But not a hot mess or anything.
This wasn't perfect, but this was good still.
I enjoyed Kang Ho's recovery time in the village and Do Hyun and Eun Jin's cute chemistry the most. The family and neighborhood were obviously the motifs the writer seemed to be going for. The cast was stellar so the enjoyment came a lot from their acting and how their characters and interactions were written. Everyone but Mijoo was a flawed character. They envied, they helped, they needled, they loved one another. Like humans. Imperfect.
I disliked the mom despite her sad story, but the writer didn't justify her behavior like I assumed they would. Instead, they had her realize through the suffering of her child and made her acknowledge that her way of raising her son was not right and was the reason of the terrible consequences.
I am not satisfied with how easily Mijoo forgave rather begged and sought excuses to forgive Kang Ho though. this is just my personal opinion. I know why she did it. It's like her character, so sweet. But as a viewer I thought like Kang Ho's mother, he too involved a completely unaware person in his not-straightforward life and then dumped her without a clear explanation. I know, she didn't ask for one but he owed it to her. she didn't know the story of his plan. It was his responsibility to be transparent with the person who he was allowing to support him, monetarily and emotionally, during his prep. The path of his plan was unpredictable from the beginning even if he didn't know how messy, difficult and crime-ridden it'd be. It was humiliating and heart breaking for Mijoo to have gone through everything alone and then finding out the real reason so tricky that one can't even hate and penalize that person. What would've happened if he died or never recovered? Mijoo woul've never known and forever stayed in this "I was abandoned" state. I am not as forgiving as Mijoo, I am rather the other girl who helped her father in attempting to kill Kang Ho on the basis of a fake info. I understand kang ho had gone through enough pain in his life so didn't need another test from Mijoo. But she was never the reason of his hurts, it was the other way around.
I did like the drama. Will I rewatch? Don't know.