bruh noncon and dubcon are tropes/kinks people are allowed to enjoy, it doesn't reflect morality at all. its fine…
If your logic is that “any fictional non-con is morally neutral because some people enjoy that kink,” then you’re essentially saying no fictional act can ever be questioned, no matter how harmful or exploitative it is. But that collapses immediately, because society clearly recognizes that some depictions, especially involving people who cannot consent carry moral weight even in fiction. R in any universe is not hot, not in fantasy, not in storytelling, and certainly not when it’s framed as romance. And bringing up non-con or dub-con kink enjoyers is completely irrelevant here, because those kinks rely on consensual fantasy spaces with boundaries, not on applauding an untagged assault scene in a mainstream show. The issue isn’t that people have dark fantasies; the issue is pretending that all fantasies are automatically beyond moral scrutiny. That argument doesn’t protect kink culture, it erases the ethical boundaries that exist for a reason.
*Trigger warning* sensitive topics mentioned below; If someone enjoys and is excited over murder scenes, women being violated scenes, dv scenes, animals being killed scenes, cp scenes, it doesn’t reflect their morality at all? The og comment was implying people finding literal assault, hot. Does fiction blur these lines to consider this doesn’t reflect morality?
bruh noncon and dubcon are tropes/kinks people are allowed to enjoy, it doesn't reflect morality at all. its fine…
Nobody is attacking people who explore non-con or dub-con as private kinks. A non-con or dub-con kink is something explored in a controlled, consensual environment, either through tagged fiction, roleplay, or explicit fantasy spaces. Everyone involved is aware, consenting, and choosing it. Calling a random depiction of assault “hot” in a general audience show is none of those things. A non-con kink means you like the fantasy, not actual harm. It does not mean seeing an unconscious person being violated and saying “this is romantic and cute.” That’s not kink, that’s normalization.
People aren’t saying viewers “need help” for having dark tastes. They’re reacting to others praising molestation like it’s sexy. That’s a very different thing. Fiction doesn’t make you immoral, but defending the romanticization of assault while mocking those who are uncomfortable does raise ethical questions.
BL already has a long history of smoothing over coercion and calling it love. So when a scene of assault plays and the comments romanticize it, that’s not harmless fantasy, it’s part of a much larger trend where violence against queer men gets rewritten as passion. Pointing out that pattern isn’t being “morally uptight.” It’s being socially aware. Private kink ≠ moral issue. Publicly romanticizing assault in a mainstream story = moral issue. If someone says “molestation is hot,” that’s not just a kink, it’s a sign that they’re unbothered by violence being inserted into romance narratives. That lack of discomfort is morally relevant. Survivors, queer men, and viewers sensitive to assault see those comments and feel dismissed, unsafe, or retraumatized. Morality includes how your reactions affect real people.
It’s not about demonizing kink. It’s about recognizing the difference between consensual fantasy and media that normalizes harm. And calling that out isn’t a personal attack.
Fan xiao should be in JAIL. Are we seriously romanticising his actions 😭
You have not read the comments then. People are not only romanticsing it byt are also attacking others for not finding it hot or criticising this behaviour. I was totally baffled by it.
its being sadly normalised in bl genre because the victim is a man
This is what is happening in bl manhwa community. It has been so normalised that people are now defending atrocious prison time behaviour saying this is how “omegaverse”/“bl” works and that is so sad. “Healthy” relationships are now deemed boring and many people are being desensitised to r scenes in bl.
Phopthorn is better than me. Dancing with your ex infront of your fiancé and getting praised for it….. is diabolical lmao. All the hell would break lose if it were me or apo in that situation.
This is one of my favourites now, I liked all the characters, the couples, and their kind supportive families.…
Taking a queer story and straight-washing it to appeal to the homophobes - completely understandable and not at all unhinged. That’s the norm. People “complaining” that their favourite manhwa adaptation has been completely ruined. Expecting a queer story where main characters who are queer to get more screen time than the straight characters - unhinged behaviour ew.
Tong was pissing me off the whole ep. If that is his true self and he is not possessed, I don’t wanna see any redemption arc or happy ending for that character.
Employed rich man on a random Tuesday: Lets steal someone’s lover hehe 😜
😭cheating trope pisses me tf offfffffff ugh. The chemistry between the main leads is insane so i will have to keep watching with a closed fist and broken screen
*Trigger warning* sensitive topics mentioned below;
If someone enjoys and is excited over murder scenes, women being violated scenes, dv scenes, animals being killed scenes, cp scenes, it doesn’t reflect their morality at all? The og comment was implying people finding literal assault, hot. Does fiction blur these lines to consider this doesn’t reflect morality?
People aren’t saying viewers “need help” for having dark tastes. They’re reacting to others praising molestation like it’s sexy. That’s a very different thing. Fiction doesn’t make you immoral, but defending the romanticization of assault while mocking those who are uncomfortable does raise ethical questions.
BL already has a long history of smoothing over coercion and calling it love. So when a scene of assault plays and the comments romanticize it, that’s not harmless fantasy, it’s part of a much larger trend where violence against queer men gets rewritten as passion. Pointing out that pattern isn’t being “morally uptight.” It’s being socially aware. Private kink ≠ moral issue. Publicly romanticizing assault in a mainstream story = moral issue. If someone says “molestation is hot,” that’s not just a kink, it’s a sign that they’re unbothered by violence being inserted into romance narratives.
That lack of discomfort is morally relevant. Survivors, queer men, and viewers sensitive to assault see those comments and feel dismissed, unsafe, or retraumatized. Morality includes how your reactions affect real people.
It’s not about demonizing kink. It’s about recognizing the difference between consensual fantasy and media that normalizes harm. And calling that out isn’t a personal attack.
People “complaining” that their favourite manhwa adaptation has been completely ruined. Expecting a queer story where main characters who are queer to get more screen time than the straight characters - unhinged behaviour ew.