I'd disagree with you. LWY's initial memories might've been planted but everything after that, she is her own…
lets wait and see how her story unfolds..
because what you are pointing out, i would attribute it to the memories and muscle memory in her plus the JY's shard in her that raises head at some specific times (also Nuwa's task assignment and JY's figment in her body to monitor progress of task)
clearly, there is a catalyst even where Wyan and other good things in her overtake JY and othr bad influences for good.
and a much bigger mystery... does WYi also carry forward any speck of DZ's soul?
but i like your thought process. It is another way of looking at things
I think you’re a bit confused about how her identity works.LWY isn’t just a “mix” of other people with…
lets see..
because you are still not able to answer for me what "her choices" mean
my theory is quite simple actually. Your thoughts govern who you are. When you are born, you inherit genetic identities. Over a period of time it is a recursive cycle of new thoughts emanating, reshaping your personality, thoughts, conscience... and cycle continues..as you grow you form your personality.
Which is what is happening with WYi. But her physical, spiritual, sould, emotions - everything is borrowed from others. The only thing that worked in her favour was that JY's soul figment mostly is inactive allowing WYi to develop more on lines of what her sisters used to be
I'd disagree with you. LWY's initial memories might've been planted but everything after that, she is her own…
yes.. and hence i said JL is in love with sum of all parts.. not one person.. he doesn't even know who he is in love with.. because it is sum of all parts
I think you’re a bit confused about how her identity works.LWY isn’t just a “mix” of other people with…
:D ..
"just be a consistent trait" - given how WYi has been conceived the trait again does not come on its own. It has to have an influence
I feel writer has done something very interesting her in terms of who WYi is.. and people r not really debating that out...
my question still stays - is she really a person of her own
********** i don't care if it is not a fated link as long as story doesn't push the narrative of fated link... because otherwise story has to show me it is truly a fated link
for me they are not. 2 souls crossing paths and falling for each other. pretty much. Its just that i am not sure what one of that two soul really is - one whole or sum of parts
I think you’re a bit confused about how her identity works.LWY isn’t just a “mix” of other people with…
even rebirth is concept of soul carrying forward.. so this should show us that WYi contain some figment of DZ. it is DZ trait to liek colors and flowers..
lets see
so then like i said before ... they should draw some link between ManMan and JL also.. otherwise it would not feel like fated story
nope u r wrong here, u can see that when wuyi tells the truth to jiling, he puts her hand on his heart and says…
but dude.. WHAT is Conscience?
It is not some alien thing that gets planted in you. It is literally your thoughts DNA and feedback loop of thoughts further reshaping that DNA
Her heart is empathetic Her evil soul figment is hardly ever active
and then come all the other sisters and their tid bits
You guys are simplifying it too much. She represents the goodness of all those sisters which is and has shaped her conscience DNA.. which will be so strong that it will enable her to fight that evil figment when it raises it heads
and most importanlty, fact that the figment was hardly ever active allowed the goodness of the sisters to take over her conscience
BUT IN ALL OF THIS.. what JL got attracted to is sum of all parts
I think you’re a bit confused about how her identity works.LWY isn’t just a “mix” of other people with…
no.. i think you are assuming a lot of things without going into details..
THat is the big question - what shapes up conscience ? what drives your choices and emotion? Love she feels is also driven by underlying DNA of her body...
She has a heart of a person who is sympathetic. She has a figment of evil soul which is not active hence lets her other parts dictate her behavior..
it is a much nuanced concept from the superficial assumption you have to define her
I'd disagree with you. LWY's initial memories might've been planted but everything after that, she is her own…
but that's exactly where i am challenging you
What do you mean by "her own person". What defines you as a person? Your actions and your thoughts right? Actions again are mostly driven by thoughts. So what shapes thoughts?... and that is where the disconnect is.. any muscle memory (not hers but the body part owner), any memory defining emotions it evokes and the way she perceives the world (again belongs to what original owner felt)
If the heart was some evil demon's.. would WYi still be good? It is like when you create a comic character with some traits borrowed from people or characters you liked. If this character came to life... sure it will claim to be its own person... but its personality traits and conscience is still bound by what its created gave it.... SO NOT REALLY Its own person
this is quite a layered concept and people need to chew on it before forming an opinion
nope u r wrong here, u can see that when wuyi tells the truth to jiling, he puts her hand on his heart and says…
being a vessel is different from not existing at all and being a stitched up version of others.. there is a HUGE difference
You tell me, what about WYI is hers? what she says, does etc is all driven by who she is in her memories, in her body parts, in her soul.. and none of that is hers.. it is all borrowed.. so her thoughts are also result of what original owner's personality and thought process was
nope u r wrong here, u can see that when wuyi tells the truth to jiling, he puts her hand on his heart and says…
lol.. you didn't get my post then.. or you didn't understand the story..
Who is WYi? What is her? her body parts are not hers, her memories are not hers.. whatever shapes her personality si also not her.. her soul is also not 1 piece..
because what you are pointing out, i would attribute it to the memories and muscle memory in her plus the JY's shard in her that raises head at some specific times (also Nuwa's task assignment and JY's figment in her body to monitor progress of task)
clearly, there is a catalyst even where Wyan and other good things in her overtake JY and othr bad influences for good.
and a much bigger mystery... does WYi also carry forward any speck of DZ's soul?
but i like your thought process. It is another way of looking at things
because you are still not able to answer for me what "her choices" mean
my theory is quite simple actually. Your thoughts govern who you are. When you are born, you inherit genetic identities. Over a period of time it is a recursive cycle of new thoughts emanating, reshaping your personality, thoughts, conscience... and cycle continues..as you grow you form your personality.
Which is what is happening with WYi. But her physical, spiritual, sould, emotions - everything is borrowed from others. The only thing that worked in her favour was that JY's soul figment mostly is inactive allowing WYi to develop more on lines of what her sisters used to be
"just be a consistent trait" - given how WYi has been conceived the trait again does not come on its own. It has to have an influence
I feel writer has done something very interesting her in terms of who WYi is.. and people r not really debating that out...
my question still stays - is she really a person of her own
**********
i don't care if it is not a fated link as long as story doesn't push the narrative of fated link... because otherwise story has to show me it is truly a fated link
for me they are not. 2 souls crossing paths and falling for each other. pretty much. Its just that i am not sure what one of that two soul really is - one whole or sum of parts
this character should also have DZ's actual soul figment then
lets see
so then like i said before ... they should draw some link between ManMan and JL also.. otherwise it would not feel like fated story
It is not some alien thing that gets planted in you. It is literally your thoughts DNA and feedback loop of thoughts further reshaping that DNA
Her heart is empathetic
Her evil soul figment is hardly ever active
and then come all the other sisters and their tid bits
You guys are simplifying it too much. She represents the goodness of all those sisters which is and has shaped her conscience DNA.. which will be so strong that it will enable her to fight that evil figment when it raises it heads
and most importanlty, fact that the figment was hardly ever active allowed the goodness of the sisters to take over her conscience
BUT IN ALL OF THIS.. what JL got attracted to is sum of all parts
THat is the big question - what shapes up conscience ? what drives your choices and emotion? Love she feels is also driven by underlying DNA of her body...
She has a heart of a person who is sympathetic. She has a figment of evil soul which is not active hence lets her other parts dictate her behavior..
it is a much nuanced concept from the superficial assumption you have to define her
What do you mean by "her own person". What defines you as a person? Your actions and your thoughts right? Actions again are mostly driven by thoughts. So what shapes thoughts?... and that is where the disconnect is.. any muscle memory (not hers but the body part owner), any memory defining emotions it evokes and the way she perceives the world (again belongs to what original owner felt)
If the heart was some evil demon's.. would WYi still be good? It is like when you create a comic character with some traits borrowed from people or characters you liked. If this character came to life... sure it will claim to be its own person... but its personality traits and conscience is still bound by what its created gave it.... SO NOT REALLY Its own person
this is quite a layered concept and people need to chew on it before forming an opinion
plus i think the protagonist of the show has not even shown its real face as yet
JL is not figment of imagination. COncept of vessel is different from what WYi is. JL's memories are his own. He has a past. He took birth
You would have to go back to his character again and pay attention
You tell me, what about WYI is hers? what she says, does etc is all driven by who she is in her memories, in her body parts, in her soul.. and none of that is hers.. it is all borrowed.. so her thoughts are also result of what original owner's personality and thought process was
HUGE DIFFERENCE
Who is WYi? What is her? her body parts are not hers, her memories are not hers.. whatever shapes her personality si also not her.. her soul is also not 1 piece..