It's not nitpicking to expect an actor/director to present a boxer character as believably a boxer.
I guess your comments haven't struck me as insignificant, then.
Something like lame boxing, which I noticed here too, will take me right out of a scene. I have the utmost respect for actors who either master a sport to portray it, or fake it well enough to make it appear they have mastered it.
I get accused of "nitpicking" too, because I have standards. Maybe you do too. :)
Epic ?? You gotta be kidding me!!! I don’t think we have watched the same thing or we don’t have the same…
lol Honestly, I have no memory of this show, and my rating page indicates I dropped the damn thing, and then started watching again a year later, finding it not as bad.
So, basically, I don't know how to answer your reply. :D
"Not up for the job." I see what you did there. :)
So... Is it BL or not? Those tags say it’s a gay romance and LGBTQ+ but I’m really not interested in bromance…
That's a tough one, because every country I'm thinking of has also released a lot of turds, Thailand being the worst.
I would say Taiwan/Korea. Korea especially, has put out lots of duds, but also some real gems. Taiwan, though not prolific, may be the most consistent in producing BLs worth watching.
Why would they kiss? The hockey player's not even gay.
"The more I think about it, the more the narrative seems totally weird."
I agree with this. I finished watching, and as it replays in my annoyed mind, more and more lame flubs/mistakes/oddnesses come to mind. Like the story becoming all about the artsy female friend, her baby, and everyone who wanted to help her raise the kid. Who cares? That would be fine as a subplot, but it was turned into the focus. The final cut was by committee, and that's almost always a disaster.
There's almost nothing gay about it, other than some very familiar tropes regarding what happens to gay people…
You know, that's such a lame and repetitious canard thrown out by weirdos like you who despise clearly defined gay characters. Asserting that those of us with discernment, who aren't homophobic, are simply desperate for some random kissing, is hogwash. A kiss in this show, the way it's written, would be bizarre.
"Underneath emotions" are great/wonderful/awesome as tools to BUILD a plot and characters toward something. But when, after SIX HOURS of storytelling, we are still only getting "underneath emotions" there is something wrong, a cowardice/reluctance to allow a gay romance to flower and OPEN up.
And why would that be? It would be, because the director/actors/ producers have decided they are unwilling to portray a clearly gay storyline. The history of rewrites/reshoots/delays regarding SM is telling. It was released a full year behind schedule and was chopped up in the meantime.
I can't find anything specific online, of course, because studios cover up shit like this, but casting a reluctant Korean "idol" to play a gay character is a sure-fire way for that character to end up gay-but-not-really-gay in the final product. I've seen that particular weirdness play out and ruin dramas/BLs 473 times before.
Ok Taec Yeon and his obvious rhinoplasty should have been kept far away from this show. Cast him in something with a girl opposite him, where he's willing to commit. The JP actor was the superior performer, and my guess is he wasn't worried about playing gay.
I, too, did not care for this one. Once I realized what pathetic, tedious, shitty, over-trodden road it was going…
Yeah, plus it's really poorly written with loose plot threads everywhere, disappearing characters, and strange, inconsistent character behaviors. Also, in the latter half, it becomes all about the female, childhood friend and her baby. Like...OK, a little of that is fine and the actress if very good, but...who cares? The details of that are like from a different show.
So... Is it BL or not? Those tags say it’s a gay romance and LGBTQ+ but I’m really not interested in bromance…
oooh...I just saw that Double Helix is a retelling of "A Round Trip To Love." I saw the original version, which while featuring some bad dubbing, was gloriously twisted. I'll give it a shot.
So... Is it BL or not? Those tags say it’s a gay romance and LGBTQ+ but I’m really not interested in bromance…
JWY might be the one where I probably would have kept going, but the dubbing was so off-putting that it took me out of the story repeatedly. It brings a weirdness/Uncanny Valley vibe to things for me, especially in outdoor scenes where it just doesn't sound right.
I keep imagining actors standing in front of microphones in a studio, instead of what's going on on-screen. I fully acknowledge that I may be hyper-sensitive about that kind of thing. :)
On edit: I just checked, RL is the one with the snakes! lol Yeah, in that case it was the cheesy storyline about yakuza and all that shit. In most BL cases, they just aren't able to bring a believable quality to those plot lines and I end up feeling like I'm watching a high school performance of "The Godfather," but with teenagers playing all the roles. :D The guy with the snakes was hot, though. He put a lot of time into becoming comfortable and familiar with those critters, too.
A question: How are you able to use emojis here? I don't get that option. Do you have to download your own emoji app or something?
Good for him and his team. This needs to be happening across the board, and some very public consequences, including possible juvenile detention, will serve as a deterrent to other psycho "fans," who aren't real fans at all, of course.
In this particular case, it sounds like the kid may be a nutcase who needs to be under supervision and treatment in a juvenile hospital setting. Or, maybe she's just a snotty brat. Who knows?
I wish Korean celebs would start doing this. That's where it's really out of control.
Something like lame boxing, which I noticed here too, will take me right out of a scene. I have the utmost respect for actors who either master a sport to portray it, or fake it well enough to make it appear they have mastered it.
I get accused of "nitpicking" too, because I have standards. Maybe you do too. :)
Honestly, I have no memory of this show, and my rating page indicates I dropped the damn thing, and then started watching again a year later, finding it not as bad.
So, basically, I don't know how to answer your reply. :D
"Not up for the job." I see what you did there. :)
Let me know what you think.
I Told Sunset About You is a stunner, but it and its sequel, I Promised You the Moon, are rare gems among post-2020 Thai BLs.
I would say Taiwan/Korea.
Korea especially, has put out lots of duds, but also some real gems.
Taiwan, though not prolific, may be the most consistent in producing BLs worth watching.
If you're interested, here are two lists of my fave BLs, divided into "classic" and post-2020 categories:
https://kisskh.at/list/1MpvbkP4
https://kisskh.at/list/3rWQjk74
As much as I dislike current Thai BLs, it was the clear breakthrough standard-bearer in the early years of BL and there are many classics I love.
I agree with this. I finished watching, and as it replays in my annoyed mind, more and more lame flubs/mistakes/oddnesses come to mind. Like the story becoming all about the artsy female friend, her baby, and everyone who wanted to help her raise the kid. Who cares? That would be fine as a subplot, but it was turned into the focus. The final cut was by committee, and that's almost always a disaster.
"Underneath emotions" are great/wonderful/awesome as tools to BUILD a plot and characters toward something. But when, after SIX HOURS of storytelling, we are still only getting "underneath emotions" there is something wrong, a cowardice/reluctance to allow a gay romance to flower and OPEN up.
And why would that be? It would be, because the director/actors/ producers have decided they are unwilling to portray a clearly gay storyline. The history of rewrites/reshoots/delays regarding SM is telling. It was released a full year behind schedule and was chopped up in the meantime.
I can't find anything specific online, of course, because studios cover up shit like this, but casting a reluctant Korean "idol" to play a gay character is a sure-fire way for that character to end up gay-but-not-really-gay in the final product. I've seen that particular weirdness play out and ruin dramas/BLs 473 times before.
Ok Taec Yeon and his obvious rhinoplasty should have been kept far away from this show. Cast him in something with a girl opposite him, where he's willing to commit. The JP actor was the superior performer, and my guess is he wasn't worried about playing gay.
Also, in the latter half, it becomes all about the female, childhood friend and her baby. Like...OK, a little of that is fine and the actress if very good, but...who cares? The details of that are like from a different show.
The Gaze sounds juicy and twisted, my fave genre! :D
I'll check it out.
I keep imagining actors standing in front of microphones in a studio, instead of what's going on on-screen. I fully acknowledge that I may be hyper-sensitive about that kind of thing. :)
On edit: I just checked, RL is the one with the snakes! lol Yeah, in that case it was the cheesy storyline about yakuza and all that shit. In most BL cases, they just aren't able to bring a believable quality to those plot lines and I end up feeling like I'm watching a high school performance of "The Godfather," but with teenagers playing all the roles. :D The guy with the snakes was hot, though. He put a lot of time into becoming comfortable and familiar with those critters, too.
A question: How are you able to use emojis here? I don't get that option. Do you have to download your own emoji app or something?
Have a great one!
This needs to be happening across the board, and some very public consequences, including possible juvenile detention, will serve as a deterrent to other psycho "fans," who aren't real fans at all, of course.
In this particular case, it sounds like the kid may be a nutcase who needs to be under supervision and treatment in a juvenile hospital setting. Or, maybe she's just a snotty brat. Who knows?
I wish Korean celebs would start doing this. That's where it's really out of control.
I dropped both of them. lol