I think next ep he still won't get it. Serizawa prob needs to hit him with the confession, because Suzuki is so…
Ahhh....thank you. Good to know. Except, I believe Serizawa has already said that directly to Suzuki's face at least once, in the night scene on the bridge.
Sometimes the subs switch back and forth from "like" to "love." Either way, he has at least said "I like you" to him more than once, and for heaven's sake, he cuddled him in bed for hours that one night.
Serizawa f*ck*ng KISSED HIM a couple episodes back!! 🙄He has confessed about ten times.The idea that Suzuki…
How weird that you're watching something other than over-the-top, melodramatic Chinese slop starring lipstick lesbians as the gay leads, and featuring bad dubbing and AI all over the place.
His obvious special-needs status stopped being cute seven episodes ago. At this point, it feels like the show is mocking the mentally handicapped by making Suzuki out to be one of them
I'm down-rating this thing when it's over. The actors are fine and could have done a great job with a good script. This ain't it.
I do think this is a good movie but the cut scenes were in such random places sometimes I was having to guess…
This one of my fave movies and I've watched five times now. I'll watch more.
I learn more about it every single time I watch; it's that kind of movie. I felt exactly like you after my first watch and was annoyed, but it stuck with me so I watched again...and again...and again...and so on and so forth. 😅
It sounds like it has stuck with you, too. If so, I recommend at least one, maybe two, more watches.
I used to think if i didn't grasp every detail of a flick after one watch, that it had failed. But in the seven years since discovering Asian cinema, I've come to believe I don't know at least half of what's on the screen without at least a second watch.
I don't understand 😭 Did Fei stay with Lai out of love or guilt? The line he said to Long about Long being…
I think Long didn't want to be part of an extended family with Lai and his wife because he knew he'd always be #2 to Lai's #1. Seeing that up close and personal every day in that living arrangement would be torture.
To give you MY answers to your questions (I've watched this at least four, maybe five, times): Yes, Fei wanted to stay with Lai out of guilt more than love. The line to Long about family vs. beloved hit me like a truck this time; it's the most hurtful thing he could have said to him, which is why he said it, to drive him away. Remember how Long slowly doubled over with his hands on his knees after hearing that? It hit him in the gut.
I believe a lifetime of shame and rejection from his family has made Fei horribly self-destructive. He won't be happy because he doesn't think he deserves to be happy. I don't think Lai would have left even with Long in the picture, but he would resent his being around. They can never be a big happy family because Lai's wife is a snake; she would be playing all three men against each other when she wasn't trying to seduce them.
The most frustrating aspect is that Lai did NOT attack the guy who helped beat up/rape/Fei in the beginning FOR Fei, he did it for himself, to quell his own anger, and because he was jealous of every client Fei had sex with. His lifetime of guilt over that is self-assumed.
I did too, but this is one of my all-time fave flicks. The upside of a film being hard to decipher is that it gets better with each subsequent watch as it reveals more of its layers and sub-surface gems.
Minutes ago, I finished my fourth or fifth watch and enjoyed it more than during any of the previous viewings. I found myself doing a lot of..."so THAT's what that was all about!" type reactions. 😊
I'll be back for more watches and more discoveries.
But that's a good thing. Let the toxic y-girls stay on their side of MDL tbh. If those people were over here the…
I tend to exaggerate. 😅
I would think watching a show that stresses you out in one long binge might make your head explode. Ep by ep gives your anxiety time to subside in between, no?
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Someone else already corrected me.
I considered editing my OP, but then part of the thread wouldn't make sense. 😅
I know it's odd, but I'm one of those who love the angsty, anxiety, stress-inducing, transgressive plots the most.
Except, I believe Serizawa has already said that directly to Suzuki's face at least once, in the night scene on the bridge.
Sometimes the subs switch back and forth from "like" to "love."
Either way, he has at least said "I like you" to him more than once, and for heaven's sake, he cuddled him in bed for hours that one night.
Yeah...what am I saying?...the script is a mess.
One was wearing a sweater in the surf, which seemed...odd.
It's great, though, that you're branching out.
Suzuki IS. SO. F*CK*NG. STUPID.
His obvious special-needs status stopped being cute seven episodes ago.
At this point, it feels like the show is mocking the mentally handicapped by making Suzuki out to be one of them
I'm down-rating this thing when it's over.
The actors are fine and could have done a great job with a good script.
This ain't it.
He has confessed about ten times.
The idea that Suzuki STILL doesn't get it, isn't cute, it's r*t*rd*d.
I know that word is no longer PC, but I don't care; this show has driven me to use it.
I'll watch more.
I learn more about it every single time I watch; it's that kind of movie.
I felt exactly like you after my first watch and was annoyed, but it stuck with me so I watched again...and again...and again...and so on and so forth. 😅
It sounds like it has stuck with you, too.
If so, I recommend at least one, maybe two, more watches.
I used to think if i didn't grasp every detail of a flick after one watch, that it had failed.
But in the seven years since discovering Asian cinema, I've come to believe I don't know at least half of what's on the screen without at least a second watch.
Seeing that up close and personal every day in that living arrangement would be torture.
To give you MY answers to your questions (I've watched this at least four, maybe five, times):
Yes, Fei wanted to stay with Lai out of guilt more than love.
The line to Long about family vs. beloved hit me like a truck this time; it's the most hurtful thing he could have said to him, which is why he said it, to drive him away.
Remember how Long slowly doubled over with his hands on his knees after hearing that?
It hit him in the gut.
I believe a lifetime of shame and rejection from his family has made Fei horribly self-destructive. He won't be happy because he doesn't think he deserves to be happy.
I don't think Lai would have left even with Long in the picture, but he would resent his being around.
They can never be a big happy family because Lai's wife is a snake; she would be playing all three men against each other when she wasn't trying to seduce them.
The most frustrating aspect is that Lai did NOT attack the guy who helped beat up/rape/Fei in the beginning FOR Fei, he did it for himself, to quell his own anger, and because he was jealous of every client Fei had sex with.
His lifetime of guilt over that is self-assumed.
Fei didn't and wouldn't have asked him to do that
If you want unicorns and rainbows, watch the Disney channel.
The upside of a film being hard to decipher is that it gets better with each subsequent watch as it reveals more of its layers and sub-surface gems.
Minutes ago, I finished my fourth or fifth watch and enjoyed it more than during any of the previous viewings.
I found myself doing a lot of..."so THAT's what that was all about!" type reactions. 😊
I'll be back for more watches and more discoveries.
I would think watching a show that stresses you out in one long binge might make your head explode.
Ep by ep gives your anxiety time to subside in between, no?
Except for one pay site that is confusing.