You have major issues around human sexuality. Also, your projections about what's going on in this drama (not…
Where did you get the idea that it's "telling" for commenters to reply to other comments? Do you not reply to other commenters? Isn't that what commenters do?
The thing you don't like about my replying is that I took issue with some of what you wrote. If I had agreed with you and said so, you'd be pleased.
Feel free to block me. That's what the blocking option is for.
I read the Manga exactly a week ago and I liked the story in general, I'm SO SHOCKED that I only discovered the…
I haven't read the Manga. If you like extremely boring plots with stereotypical JP characters who would rather slit their own throat than speak anything meaningful or controversial, if you like blank-slate scripts, boringly passive-aggressive characters/relationships, and Sloth-like, constant smoking (Because this is, after all, Smokey Blue!!!), you will love this show.
The charm of this series is the equation of the house and their lives. It's not about nc, it's about the emotional…
You have major issues around human sexuality.
Also, your projections about what's going on in this drama (not much of anything) are amazing. If only such depth of feeling were on the screen.
It's interesting that I 100% disagree with you about this show, but "Old Fashioned Cupcake" is on my list of fave BLs. The difference is that in OFC, one of the characters had passion, energy, and horniness for the other, and all of that was on the screen.
Here, we have TWO Sloths, moving in hyper slo-mo through life, and it's about as boring as a BL gets.
Episode 6: "I forgot to tell you, when I asked you to move in, that I am moving out." This is, in a nutshell, a great summation of this bizarre, frustrating, and dull series.
The two mains are passive-aggressive, bumbling weirdos in an emotionally/psychologically sadomasochistic relationship. They deserve each other. Such a relationship could make for exciting conflicts, challenges, and all sorts of emotional highs and lows, great fodder for a drama. But, no, this one has turned such potentially fertile material into a boring af slog through a Sloth-smoking haze of indifference.
It had potential in the beginning, but I'm almost, but not quite, hate-watching at this point. A lot of JP dramas have this lethargic, depressed, repressed vibe in which "eh?," "oh," "huh?," "I'm sorry," "no, I'M sorry," and "oh, so that's how it is" are as deep as any of the characters go into communicating with each other. I'm left with a constant urge to slap some sense or at least some passion into these people.
Just to fire up the MDL Little Church Girls brigade again, I have to mention how weird it is that sex between two grown men in a developing relationship, which we were shown early in the show, has disappeared completely, along with any hint of the romance they were clearly embarking on. Not that we're given any hint of why that is the case.
I'm convinced people who love shows like this enjoy projecting their own imagined scenarios, emotions, and preconceptions into a script, filling the black holes of nothingness left by bad writing with what they wish was there, rather than beholding what is and is not on the screen and going "wtf?" like many of us.
I disagree bc Hye Jin intends evil upon HDM at the end of Ep 8, just after she got betrayed by CEO Choi -->…
Hye Jin felt she needed Choi's clout in the film industry to get that superstar cast. Obviously, her assumption that CEO would act ethically was based on her evaluation of his past business history. Her assumption was badly misplaced, as she and we found out.
That does NOT make her the cause of her own demise. Your comparison to leaving a door unlocked goes too far. Misplaced trust is not a self-destructive act. It's a judgment mistake. What you've written does, however, make me more interested in WHY Hye Jin assumed CEO would act appropriately, when it seemed clear to me he was a cut-throat businessman who would do about anything to succeed.
i'm on ep 3 and get what you're saying but i still wanna keep going in hopes it gets better
Same. I keep watching, too, so it's not completely a lost cause to me, yet. I have NO problem dropping shows if I'm not into them, so enough appeal and curiosity is going on to keep me checking in.
I would think the way you describe your current life would make you understand the "point" (and there…
I admire your honesty and willingness to look inward for why aspects of the show don't appeal to you. But doesn't the fact that you keep watching mean the show DOES appeal to you, even if it's in some inexplicable, ass- backwards way? :)
I find almost all of them repugnant in one way or another, and DM is near if not at the top of the most repulsive protagonists I've ever met, and yet I adore him and am pulling for him and Eun Ah all the way. :) There are many other people here who feel the same.
For me, the repugnance is fascinating, and maybe the prominent reason I love the show, which sounds weird, I know. But flawless, perfect, predictable characters are Boredom City to me and have been for a long time.
" Though I wouldn't say I'd find myself likeable either so maybe the characters just feel a little too raw and real." This hit home with me, and I know what you're talking about in my own way. Yet, again, I love that I see so much of myself in DM. The quest to be the best person we can be is a life-long journey, and it is fueled by that willingness/honesty I mentioned.
I love that you keep watching, even though you feel the way you do about it. So many people, especially here on MDL, loathe and run screaming from any show that makes them "uncomfortable." Sitting in discomfort and exploring why we feel it seems nearly a lost art among the youngs.
I disagree bc Hye Jin intends evil upon HDM at the end of Ep 8, just after she got betrayed by CEO Choi -->…
DM was not the only one who had debuted during most of those 20 years. His being the last one left and always ragging on those who succeeded developed over time. Banning him when she did makes perfect sense. Regarding DM's brother being banned, have you forgotten when he came into the club and started punching people in one of the early episodes? Apparently, you have. Any club would ban someone who did that. Hye Jin knows WHY the rock was thrown and she chose to overlook it. What's odd is you not paying attention when you're watching the drama.
Get over it.
The thing you don't like about my replying is that I took issue with some of what you wrote. If I had agreed with you and said so, you'd be pleased.
Feel free to block me. That's what the blocking option is for.
You consider ONE sentence a "psychoanalysis?" lol
Please don't reveal your hangups about sex by mentioning portrayals of sex in a negative way three times in a two-paragraph comment. It's telling.
If you like extremely boring plots with stereotypical JP characters who would rather slit their own throat than speak anything meaningful or controversial, if you like blank-slate scripts, boringly passive-aggressive characters/relationships, and Sloth-like, constant smoking (Because this is, after all, Smokey Blue!!!), you will love this show.
I love banana bread with raisins.
Also, your projections about what's going on in this drama (not much of anything) are amazing. If only such depth of feeling were on the screen.
It's interesting that I 100% disagree with you about this show, but "Old Fashioned Cupcake" is on my list of fave BLs. The difference is that in OFC, one of the characters had passion, energy, and horniness for the other, and all of that was on the screen.
Here, we have TWO Sloths, moving in hyper slo-mo through life, and it's about as boring as a BL gets.
"I forgot to tell you, when I asked you to move in, that I am moving out."
This is, in a nutshell, a great summation of this bizarre, frustrating, and dull series.
The two mains are passive-aggressive, bumbling weirdos in an emotionally/psychologically sadomasochistic relationship. They deserve each other.
Such a relationship could make for exciting conflicts, challenges, and all sorts of emotional highs and lows, great fodder for a drama. But, no, this one has turned such potentially fertile material into a boring af slog through a Sloth-smoking haze of indifference.
It had potential in the beginning, but I'm almost, but not quite, hate-watching at this point.
A lot of JP dramas have this lethargic, depressed, repressed vibe in which "eh?," "oh," "huh?," "I'm sorry," "no, I'M sorry," and "oh, so that's how it is" are as deep as any of the characters go into communicating with each other. I'm left with a constant urge to slap some sense or at least some passion into these people.
Just to fire up the MDL Little Church Girls brigade again, I have to mention how weird it is that sex between two grown men in a developing relationship, which we were shown early in the show, has disappeared completely, along with any hint of the romance they were clearly embarking on. Not that we're given any hint of why that is the case.
I'm convinced people who love shows like this enjoy projecting their own imagined scenarios, emotions, and preconceptions into a script, filling the black holes of nothingness left by bad writing with what they wish was there, rather than beholding what is and is not on the screen and going "wtf?" like many of us.
Obviously, her assumption that CEO would act ethically was based on her evaluation of his past business history. Her assumption was badly misplaced, as she and we found out.
That does NOT make her the cause of her own demise.
Your comparison to leaving a door unlocked goes too far. Misplaced trust is not a self-destructive act. It's a judgment mistake.
What you've written does, however, make me more interested in WHY Hye Jin assumed CEO would act appropriately, when it seemed clear to me he was a cut-throat businessman who would do about anything to succeed.
But what does the box office performance of another film/show Koo Kyo Hwan was in, in real life, have to do with this drama?
I keep watching, too, so it's not completely a lost cause to me, yet.
I have NO problem dropping shows if I'm not into them, so enough appeal and curiosity is going on to keep me checking in.
Seems like that could be a multitude of things.
I find almost all of them repugnant in one way or another, and DM is near if not at the top of the most repulsive protagonists I've ever met, and yet I adore him and am pulling for him and Eun Ah all the way. :)
There are many other people here who feel the same.
For me, the repugnance is fascinating, and maybe the prominent reason I love the show, which sounds weird, I know. But flawless, perfect, predictable characters are Boredom City to me and have been for a long time.
" Though I wouldn't say I'd find myself likeable either so maybe the characters just feel a little too raw and real."
This hit home with me, and I know what you're talking about in my own way. Yet, again, I love that I see so much of myself in DM. The quest to be the best person we can be is a life-long journey, and it is fueled by that willingness/honesty I mentioned.
I love that you keep watching, even though you feel the way you do about it. So many people, especially here on MDL, loathe and run screaming from any show that makes them "uncomfortable." Sitting in discomfort and exploring why we feel it seems nearly a lost art among the youngs.
Watched re-runs on Summer afternoons for years, too. :)
Banning him when she did makes perfect sense.
Regarding DM's brother being banned, have you forgotten when he came into the club and started punching people in one of the early episodes?
Apparently, you have.
Any club would ban someone who did that.
Hye Jin knows WHY the rock was thrown and she chose to overlook it.
What's odd is you not paying attention when you're watching the drama.
If DM's film flops, she stands to lose all of that and more.