But they DIDN'T wait until they were 20 to have sex, which is what confuses me about that whole NY's bit.They…
Agree 💯
Yeah, the idea that they would "wait" for that is absurd. I suspect some BL makers throw in things like that to soothe the fee-fees of the rainbows-and-unicorns crowd, who always freak out about sex in BLs. 🙄
Waiting until they're both 20 to slide the meat up the chute has a sort of romantic/sentimental air that would appeal to that group; kind of like they got engaged. 😂😂
Episode 7: Well...it would be a LOT to hope for: that all the parental units would react as Harutora's did...
These two are quirkily adorable. I like that Sui, though he's growing by leaps and bounds, remains his idiosyncratic self. 😍
Receiving the affirmation that Harutora's mom gifted him would be SO healing for someone like Sui, who has suffered in the closet and then under the mockery of his classmates. Straight people have zero concept of how damaging a life of fear, lying, and lack of positive reinforcement is for gay kids. And then they wonder why we're neurotic af... 😅
Why are all the men in Korea and Japan so freaking handsome? 🤭😻
But they DIDN'T wait until they were 20 to have sex, which is what confuses me about that whole NY's bit.They…
Ahhh...I believe you are correct! 😲 I misremembered.
However, that being the case, I call BS on the writer/director. There is no way two people make out like those two at the end of 6/beginning of 7, one picks up the other and carries him into a bedroom while continuing to swap spit, and then what- YH, who has been praying for this moment for years, says, "No, we can't do this; we're not 20 years old yet, and if we do, I'll have to call the cops on us," so they stop cold and take separate showers? No. That's not how human males act. 🙄🤭
WTF is the ending? Without the author’s explanation, we wouldn’t know that it’s a dream in the present time.
NOT a dream. The "author" you're referring to, who left the incoherent Twit-ter post, is the author of the Manhwa, NOT the screenplay for this series, which was written without his input by another dude. The final scene is NOT in the Manhwa. The Manhwa author's opinion is just that: an opinion...that makes no sense whatsoever.
I think everyone’s panic and disappointment is justified. Needing to explain the ending outside the drama means…
The clothing thing: This series is full of continuity errors and other flubs. The only difference I saw was a missing tie, other than that they have their school uniform shirts on. The biggest flub is making out the 20th NY's birthday as the OK signal to have sex in the hot window scene. The problem with that is that they had sex a couple eps earlier, when YH carried EH into the bedroom and the next morning, EH came out to the kitchen rubbing his sore butt and commented on it directly. If they're capable of that big of a flub, they're capable of missing a tie.
I find it bizarre that you have an emotional attachment to what you think the ending SHOULD have been, and you won't let go of it.
As I've said, your theory requires us to believe that EH woke up within his own dream, TWICE said words to the effect of, "It was all a dream..?", YH TWICE said to him, "You're half awake...", EH loved on YH and drew on a bracelet, then walked out, but that was all in some dream from which we never saw him wake up. Oh, that's right, that's because it's bad writing, correct? Sure, Jan.😂
You seem happy with your interpretation, and that's delulu. I am happy with mine.
Also, before you throw the same nonsense at me: The dude who "confirmed' that scene was a dream is the author of the Manhwa, in which that scene does not exist, and he had NOTHING to do with the writing of the screenplay for this series.
Yeah same. Around episode 7 their relationship started to become too casual and a bit boring and then they went…
People would do well to stop expecting things from dramas and then getting worked up when they don't get them. It's silly and juvenile.
I was surprised, too, but then as I grasped what was happening, I was glad to be surprised. I've not encountered a BL ending like that. New things are fun. 😊
The scene in which he woke up was itself a dream?Is that what you're saying?No.Everything between when EH fell…
I wrote a long reply to this, but when I hit 'post" the site glitched and my comment disappeared. It's too late and I'm too tired to try to rewrite it all right now; maybe tomorrow.
But...the "author" you claim "confirmed' your interpretation is the author of the Manhwa, not the author of the screenplay. The author of the manhwa had nothing to do with the writing of the screenplay for this show. His tweet, which is nigh-incoherent and makes little sense, is an opinion about a scene in the adaptation and is no more relevant than your or my opinion. The adaptation is not a word-for-word replication of the source material! Adaptations rarely are that, though you would never know that from the people here bitching under every show that there were major changes from the source material. There are ALWAYS changes from the source material, it's a matter of how much, not if.
I think everyone’s panic and disappointment is justified. Needing to explain the ending outside the drama means…
"What you are saying is that Dohyeon did not experience any of it, and only Eunho felt those things." Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. And as a result of those experiences, Eunho grew greatly, mostly in his understanding of his feelings for YH, which are profound despite his always acting blase' about it, but also in his understanding of himself and what he wants. We saw all of that in his conversation with YH after he woke up. When he walked out of the room after adorably drawing that bracelet on YH's wrist, he was full of the confidence and purpose he never felt before.
What is it you saw YH grow to understand (in EH's dream) about EH that he did not already understand? To me, he understood EH quite well from the beginning; he had been observing him for 19 years, and for the last few years, loving him while he observed. It's EH who had a lot to realize, not YH. The only reason someone would feel "upset and robbed and wronged" by this ending is if they feel they are owed an ending they EXPECTED, and are pissed they didn't get it, which is silly and childish. Dramas, plays, books, movies, etc. don't owe us anything, and it's wonderful to be surprised, as I was by the last scene, too.
What, do you want the same BL plots you've always gotten before, rehashed over and over in exactly the same way?
My interpretation adds up perfectly. You just don't like it because you didn't get what you expected and wanted.
What are you talking about?What author?What is in the Manwha does not have to be in an adaptation.This is a lesson…
Here you go. Make it easier for you: Your good friend I Ro-mil did not write or assist in writing the screenplay for this ADAPTATION of his novel.
I don't know if you deliberately lied or tried to mislead, but those are the facts. I have no idea what his bizarre tweet was meant to convey, but if he is referring to the show, which he seems to be doing, he has no business re-interpreting somebody else's work for them. One more reason to stay off Twit-ter.
Everything between the scene near the beginning, in which EH fell asleep at his desk, and YH sat beside him and…
Me, too! Nevertheless, 90% of the people here are insisting that the final scene is exactly what it clearly is not, and they're claiming they know this because...something, something the writers are bad. 😂
What are you talking about?What author?What is in the Manwha does not have to be in an adaptation.This is a lesson…
Maybe you should breathe, cranky-pants.
MDLers DO refuse to learn. Most of them expect adaptations to mirror source material, and they get cranky, like you, when they don't.
1. That "The Untamed" is your favorite show tells me that your skills of discernment are weak and your standards are low. TU is THE classic case of a homophobic, censored BL plot, too cowardly to tell its own story, so it disguises the gay behind longing glances and flying chiffon and silk. 2. Where, exactly, did I seem to take anything as a "personal attack?" That would be you, with your "chill" and your "breathe." 3. I love that you whine about personal attacks, after which you call me a "child." Project much?
This, from your tweet: "Post
"I remember late after watching the drama, and I can tell you that the last silver-ho dream scene in the last game of the summer was not a dream or anything like that, it was a dream... I think it would be nice to see that the current Eun-ho said what he wanted to say to Dohyeon in the past in his dream."
This is INCOHERENT. He "remembered" AFTER watching his own drama you say he wrote,? He remembered whatever this is only after watching what he wrote? the "last dream scene...,was NOT a dream...etc." wtf? So....the dream was not a dream? What is the silver arc? What last game/night of the summer?
So you're saying that EH woke up at the desk in his own dream, confessed to YH, drew the bracelet, and walked out the door, and THAT was the dream, even though we never see him waking from this dream? You're saying he woke up in a dream, but he was really, actually dreaming from somewhere...else?
Make it all make sense. Explain it as if to the child you say I am.
People, get a grip. 😂The ending is what it seems to be, and it's beautiful.The fact that an ending surprised…
Everything between the scene near the beginning, in which EH fell asleep at his desk, and YH sat beside him and watched him sleep, and when he woke up in the last scene, WAS A DREAM.
That it was a dream doesn't make any of it irrelevant or meaningless; EH learned a great deal about himself, his feelings, and what he wants from life. At the end, when EH walks out of the classroom after so touchingly marking YH as his own, he does so with the confidence and excitement for the future that he utterly lacked before he fell asleep at that desk.
As he dreamed those experiences and learned those lessons, the totally devoted, if somewhat deranged, YH, was watching over him like a protective sentinel.
What's not to like? I fail to see why the ending upsets people.
People, get a grip. 😂 The ending is what it seems to be, and it's beautiful.
The fact that an ending surprised you and didn't deliver what you EXPECTED it to give you, does not mean that it isn't exactly what it presented itself as being.
Adaptations are not word-for-word replications of their source material, no matter how much you want that to be the case.
Why not choose to see the ending as a refreshing change from the tied-up-in-a-precious-pink-bow endings we've come to EXPECT from BLs, instead of ranting because you didn't get exactly what you wanted?
Having been raised on tik tok, most have the attention span of a gnat.
Yeah, the idea that they would "wait" for that is absurd.
I suspect some BL makers throw in things like that to soothe the fee-fees of the rainbows-and-unicorns crowd, who always freak out about sex in BLs. 🙄
Waiting until they're both 20 to slide the meat up the chute has a sort of romantic/sentimental air that would appeal to that group; kind of like they got engaged. 😂😂
Well...it would be a LOT to hope for: that all the parental units would react as Harutora's did...
These two are quirkily adorable.
I like that Sui, though he's growing by leaps and bounds, remains his idiosyncratic self. 😍
Receiving the affirmation that Harutora's mom gifted him would be SO healing for someone like Sui, who has suffered in the closet and then under the mockery of his classmates.
Straight people have zero concept of how damaging a life of fear, lying, and lack of positive reinforcement is for gay kids.
And then they wonder why we're neurotic af... 😅
Why are all the men in Korea and Japan so freaking handsome? 🤭😻
I misremembered.
However, that being the case, I call BS on the writer/director.
There is no way two people make out like those two at the end of 6/beginning of 7, one picks up the other and carries him into a bedroom while continuing to swap spit, and then what- YH, who has been praying for this moment for years, says, "No, we can't do this; we're not 20 years old yet, and if we do, I'll have to call the cops on us," so they stop cold and take separate showers?
No.
That's not how human males act. 🙄🤭
The "author" you're referring to, who left the incoherent Twit-ter post, is the author of the Manhwa, NOT the screenplay for this series, which was written without his input by another dude.
The final scene is NOT in the Manhwa.
The Manhwa author's opinion is just that: an opinion...that makes no sense whatsoever.
MDL baby fujoshis like their BLs predictable, safe, and unchallenging. 😅
This series is full of continuity errors and other flubs.
The only difference I saw was a missing tie, other than that they have their school uniform shirts on.
The biggest flub is making out the 20th NY's birthday as the OK signal to have sex in the hot window scene.
The problem with that is that they had sex a couple eps earlier, when YH carried EH into the bedroom and the next morning, EH came out to the kitchen rubbing his sore butt and commented on it directly.
If they're capable of that big of a flub, they're capable of missing a tie.
I find it bizarre that you have an emotional attachment to what you think the ending SHOULD have been, and you won't let go of it.
As I've said, your theory requires us to believe that EH woke up within his own dream, TWICE said words to the effect of, "It was all a dream..?", YH TWICE said to him, "You're half awake...", EH loved on YH and drew on a bracelet, then walked out, but that was all in some dream from which we never saw him wake up.
Oh, that's right, that's because it's bad writing, correct?
Sure, Jan.😂
You seem happy with your interpretation, and that's delulu. I am happy with mine.
Also, before you throw the same nonsense at me: The dude who "confirmed' that scene was a dream is the author of the Manhwa, in which that scene does not exist, and he had NOTHING to do with the writing of the screenplay for this series.
It's silly and juvenile.
I was surprised, too, but then as I grasped what was happening, I was glad to be surprised.
I've not encountered a BL ending like that.
New things are fun. 😊
But...the "author" you claim "confirmed' your interpretation is the author of the Manhwa, not the author of the screenplay.
The author of the manhwa had nothing to do with the writing of the screenplay for this show.
His tweet, which is nigh-incoherent and makes little sense, is an opinion about a scene in the adaptation and is no more relevant than your or my opinion.
The adaptation is not a word-for-word replication of the source material!
Adaptations rarely are that, though you would never know that from the people here bitching under every show that there were major changes from the source material.
There are ALWAYS changes from the source material, it's a matter of how much, not if.
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.
And as a result of those experiences, Eunho grew greatly, mostly in his understanding of his feelings for YH, which are profound despite his always acting blase' about it, but also in his understanding of himself and what he wants.
We saw all of that in his conversation with YH after he woke up.
When he walked out of the room after adorably drawing that bracelet on YH's wrist, he was full of the confidence and purpose he never felt before.
What is it you saw YH grow to understand (in EH's dream) about EH that he did not already understand?
To me, he understood EH quite well from the beginning; he had been observing him for 19 years, and for the last few years, loving him while he observed.
It's EH who had a lot to realize, not YH.
The only reason someone would feel "upset and robbed and wronged" by this ending is if they feel they are owed an ending they EXPECTED, and are pissed they didn't get it, which is silly and childish.
Dramas, plays, books, movies, etc. don't owe us anything, and it's wonderful to be surprised, as I was by the last scene, too.
What, do you want the same BL plots you've always gotten before, rehashed over and over in exactly the same way?
My interpretation adds up perfectly.
You just don't like it because you didn't get what you expected and wanted.
Your good friend I Ro-mil did not write or assist in writing the screenplay for this ADAPTATION of his novel.
I don't know if you deliberately lied or tried to mislead, but those are the facts.
I have no idea what his bizarre tweet was meant to convey, but if he is referring to the show, which he seems to be doing, he has no business re-interpreting somebody else's work for them.
One more reason to stay off Twit-ter.
Have you read the novel?
Nevertheless, 90% of the people here are insisting that the final scene is exactly what it clearly is not, and they're claiming they know this because...something, something the writers are bad. 😂
MDLers DO refuse to learn.
Most of them expect adaptations to mirror source material, and they get cranky, like you, when they don't.
1. That "The Untamed" is your favorite show tells me that your skills of discernment are weak and your standards are low.
TU is THE classic case of a homophobic, censored BL plot, too cowardly to tell its own story, so it disguises the gay behind longing glances and flying chiffon and silk.
2. Where, exactly, did I seem to take anything as a "personal attack?" That would be you, with your "chill" and your "breathe."
3. I love that you whine about personal attacks, after which you call me a "child." Project much?
This, from your tweet:
"Post
"I remember late after watching the drama, and I can tell you that the last silver-ho dream scene in the last game of the summer was not a dream or anything like that, it was a dream... I think it would be nice to see that the current Eun-ho said what he wanted to say to Dohyeon in the past in his dream."
This is INCOHERENT.
He "remembered" AFTER watching his own drama you say he wrote,?
He remembered whatever this is only after watching what he wrote?
the "last dream scene...,was NOT a dream...etc." wtf?
So....the dream was not a dream?
What is the silver arc?
What last game/night of the summer?
So you're saying that EH woke up at the desk in his own dream, confessed to YH, drew the bracelet, and walked out the door, and THAT was the dream, even though we never see him waking from this dream?
You're saying he woke up in a dream, but he was really, actually dreaming from somewhere...else?
Make it all make sense.
Explain it as if to the child you say I am.
P.S. What tf is a "silver ho?" 🤣
The author of the adaptation screenplay or the atuhor of the Manhwa?
Link to the tweet?
Chill yourself, Spicy.
I think the writers' and director's brains kinda forgot about that, too. lol
That it was a dream doesn't make any of it irrelevant or meaningless; EH learned a great deal about himself, his feelings, and what he wants from life.
At the end, when EH walks out of the classroom after so touchingly marking YH as his own, he does so with the confidence and excitement for the future that he utterly lacked before he fell asleep at that desk.
As he dreamed those experiences and learned those lessons, the totally devoted, if somewhat deranged, YH, was watching over him like a protective sentinel.
What's not to like?
I fail to see why the ending upsets people.
The ending is what it seems to be, and it's beautiful.
The fact that an ending surprised you and didn't deliver what you EXPECTED it to give you, does not mean that it isn't exactly what it presented itself as being.
Adaptations are not word-for-word replications of their source material, no matter how much you want that to be the case.
Why not choose to see the ending as a refreshing change from the tied-up-in-a-precious-pink-bow endings we've come to EXPECT from BLs, instead of ranting because you didn't get exactly what you wanted?
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