etoks21

Exactly. If everyone in fiction did everything properly, thoughtfully, conventionally, etc. we as an audience would be bored to tears. :D

MDL= kisskh

The hetero (not for long!) lead is not in a SEXUAL relationship with the "girlfriend." They don't even kiss. I don't recall seeing a hug except for the half-ass one she gave him from behind for the visual consumption of their friend group. She is the one who cut off sex without telling him why.

I agree it makes a great deal of sense to just get the hell out to simplify things and end the stress, but I don't see him as having any "moral" obligation to do so. Why would he?

Withholding sex is just as bad as having sex on the side. When you were "cheated" on, were you and your partner still having sex? If so, then I agree it was a despicable act on their part. If not, then where's the "cheating?"

Besides all this, who's to say what appears to be a physical encounter between our leads next ep won't come about spontaneously and unexpectedly? If so, what? He's supposed to say, "oh no, we can't do this. I have to discuss it with my "GF" first?" I don't think so...she ended their sexual relationship long ago. She hasn't asked him how he's holding up without getting off, etc. because she doesn't care. He owes her nothing.

This is what I'm talking about with "gray-area" thinking. If he was still pretending to love his GF and having sex with her and then slept with the other lead, that's pretty close to black/bad. Getting busy with someone else when they are not having sex and the romance is entirely stale...that's pretty damn white.

BTW, I hope Fujisawa or the frigid Lesbian GF or both, walk in on our boys doing the nasty next week.

Fireworks! And neither one of them would be justified in making a scene. What, do they expect these two hot, smart young men to be satisfied with wanking?

I don't care for the term "cheating" because it's judgey and puts all extra-relationship sexual relations in the same category when they most definitely are not. 90% of the time, MDLers use "cheating" in a moralistic, judgey, Church-Lady way that leaves no room for nuance or shades of gray. Which is why they use it: Black/white thinking is easy.

Neither lead has an obligation to keep their roommate informed as to what they're doing on the side. Does either of the roomies really have standing to feel "cheated" upon, given their behavior? Not to me.

Aloe vera?

I didn't mean to be laughing at your idea that Kaori is lesbo; I was laughing that this type of speculation is what this wild show has driven us to. :D Anything is possible here, but the pregnant friend specifically indicated she wanted to have sex with her husband. But if the subs are reliable and I have no idea if they are, she said he was "impotent" but then immediately followed that by saying he likes to jerk off to magazines but not bang her, which is not what impotency is. I couldn't tell anyone that without laughing. Either way, she's a snake. and a blabbermouth.

I do like the direct implication that we never know what is going on in the private lives of those around us.

Could be, who knows? Either way, she's being a dishonest weirdo about it. Just tell him and get a different roommate.

Meh...Kaori and Fujisawa are manipulative cheaters in their own way already. Neither is being honest.

How would a relationship between an asexual and a normal-sexual work? Seems rational to think asexuals ought to stick with other asexuals if they don't want to end up having their partner look outside the relationship for sexual satisfaction.

lol

YES. Bravo! A lot of MDLers hate and/or are afraid of sex. They'll go to great lengths to convince themselves that withholding or not having sex is a good thing, regardless of circumstances because sex is, you know, gross.

If Fuji "valued what Sei wants more than what he wants" he'd drop his pants and put out.
The knots you twisted yourself into here to rationalize the sadistic behavior of a couple of emotionally sadistic twits is remarkable.

Episode 4:
I don't know who's the bigger freak, Fujisawa or Shinomiya. "When he shows his masculine side..." Would she rather he show her his feminine side? Psychos, both of them. And wow...how much of a weirdo snake is that preggo chick? She couldn't wait to stir the pot, and not only the one with soup in it in front of her.

Looks like our boys are going to get diggity with it next week and I for one, am here for it. :)

All this talk of "cheating" in comments is hilarious. Sex is not the only way to "cheat" on someone. Emotional and psychological cheating are just as bad; perhaps worse, depending on circumstances.
Fuji and Shino are sadistic weirdos either way.

Note to MDL's worst writer, Lily Alice: None of those three actors hold a position at any actual high school.

The word "masterpiece" gets used every fourth word on MDL. :)

The older is one is a graduate-level college student; at least that's my understanding. If so, they're 5 or 6 years apart. Who cares?

Yup. I almost decided to drop it halfway through episode 4, out of boredom. The acting is pretty bad and most things that happen are extremely predictable. Thus, there's no suspense.

I agree about the couples looking nice, but the attractions feeling forced and rote.

Episode 4:
Wow. Epic new levels of juvenile writing and bad acting. lol
However, the four of them are nice to look at and each one is distinctively handsome, as opposed to a cast of idol lookalikes in some shows.

The art teacher's shameless instruction techniques are admirable. I feel they will result in some rock-hard results if you get my drift and I think you do. :) It's refreshing to see the older character in an age-gap relationship (and this one is slight; five years or so) not freaking out and acting all guilty about his feelings. He's going with the flow and I'm here for it. The younger one is a high school senior, not a pre-pubescent 10-year-old.

I counted 17 trip/fall/catch stunts, 14 wipe-something-off-your-cheek-or-lips incidents, 24 goofing and around and acting stupid until someone accidentally kisses someone routines, and lots of evasive, furtive glances. This episode is trope city plus. Not an ounce of originality. However, I'm here for the shower scene in episode 5.

The set decorator should be shot. That plastic bottle fish on the front of the coffee bar is hideous, and the mural the painter/student painted is ugly af. hahahaha I laughed when the other two came out and raved about it being a masterpiece of beauty.

Why?