also at this point everyone treats u like a joke and no one actually reads the epic ballads that u write !!
oh god, another stupid comment, full of reactions to comments that exist only in your head. Neither of us has been yakking about "lgbtq representation." Do try to keep up. You're losing your grip...
I have never seen a more jobless person in my life !!! get out der nd smell some grass..don't be holed up in ur…
You forgot: There aren't "2" of us, but just 1, me in front of a computer juggling multiple accounts on MDL to talk back and forth with myself. hahaha You LGs are a hoot. Thanks for the laughs.
I know I have prevailed when the people I'm arguing with resort to the "you have 43 MDL accounts and are just writing back and forth to your multiple persoanlities" thing. hahahaha
I don't get why you are so hellbent on policing how other people should feel about this show. If you don't like…
omg...this is so predictable that I predicted this would come in a reply to bro11185 in this thread last night. Because we all know there couldn't possibly be TWO intelligent people on MDL. lol
I'm not concerned with what you think of my lack of "kindness." As far as I'm concerned, my tone in replying to you is in direct correlation to the tone of ignorance and cruelty you showed toward Yoo in your OP. He's going to prison for a year. You got your feelings hurt. You'll live.
As for this: "we cannot please everybody, but whatever the judging body saw fit they are doing in order to see a citizen reform their ways and go back in society with hope that they will not repeat it. " Are you Korean? I ask because this is exactly the sort of mealy-mouthed, "the government must know what it's doing" kind of thinking that has for decades fueled abuse and corruption within the Korean legal system.
The fact that you see Yoo's sentence as the Korean law enforcement/court system doing this "in order to see a citizen reform their ways and go back..." shows your extreme naivety to the point of hilarity. The Korean justice machine has shown itself time and again to be concerned with nothing but getting itself lots of press coverage by crucifying famous people in these types of cases.
Forcing celebs to stop in the parking lot to be grilled by blood-thirsty "reporters" in front of cameras every time they go in or out of a police station; multiple, 18-hour interrogations sessions, illegally leaking rumors and innuendo to the press while an investigation is ongoing, etc. This isn't about concern for Yoo as a "citizen," it's about Yoo as someone to trample over to make themselves look hard-ass.
It has been less than nine months since Lee Sun Kyun was hounded to suicide by Korean law enforcement, press, and public. You seem to have forgotten that little incident. Or do you believe the way LSK was treated was in his own best interest, out of a desire to see "a citizen reform his ways and return to society?"
I don't get why you are so hellbent on policing how other people should feel about this show. If you don't like…
lol Could you specify what streets in what cities you bravely protested in? I'm doing a tour of sites where historically significant pro-gay events took place.
I don't get why you are so hellbent on policing how other people should feel about this show. If you don't like…
"...how you always make assumptions on people's sexuality here. We're not in '80s." What the hell are you talking about. Who are these people "redirecting" anyone anywhere? Have you posted a list of fabulous, sex-free BLs in this thread, cause I haven't seen it if you did.
What "assumptions about people's sexuality" have been made? Quotes, please.
I don't get why you are so hellbent on policing how other people should feel about this show. If you don't like…
You, proving again that you can't read
" Many of us gay men have no problem with the fact that straight women originated BL, and continue to dominate them."
br011185 specifically stated what you just pretended to be informing him of for the first time. Good lord. Then you go on to ask more stupid questions. br011185 did not say that there was anything "wrong" with BLs that don't depict gay hypersexuality. He did not say that a BL without sex scenes makes "being gay any less gay," whatever the hell that means.
If you still believe br011185 wrote these things, please copy/paste them in a reply, because they're not there in his comment. Once again, just as you did in replying to me, you are inferring things never written, then responding to what you made up in your head. Please see someone about those voices between your ears.
Nor did he say or imply that he can't enjoy gay-themed shows that focus "more on emotional connection than physical intimacy."
And that is the weird and frustrating thing about BL watchers like you. For some reason, you are unable to, or refuse to, understand and acknowledge that there is a fabulous sky-wide palette of lovely grays from which to make stories between your pristine, blinding white fantasy of SEX IS ICKY and what you see as a black nightmare of endless b**t-f**king.
Guess what? Almost all good-to-great creative work comes out of that immense gray area. Did you know it is possible to write stories that include "emotional connection" AND "physical intimacy?" It's true, I swear!
Why in the world do you think it has to be all one thing or the other? I suspect you've internalized the homophobic notion, still pervasive in most societies, that gay sex is dirty/nasty/icky/immoral; but if I said that out loud I'd be playing amateur psychologist like you, and I don't want that.
I don't get why you are so hellbent on policing how other people should feel about this show. If you don't like…
Wow, my friend. Thank you so much for this beautifully-written show of support, which comes out of the blue, and is gratefully received. What you have expressed here is a summary of feelings and emotions I recognize very well. However, I doubt I have the patience or wisdom to have penned such a moving and sternly accurate description of our relationship, as gay men, to the BL universe (I suspect you've noticed my tendency is more toward bomb-throwing and sarcastic bombast than calm engagement).
Thank you beyond words for writing and posting this. Reading it, I was moved to tears. By reading your words, I hope at least a few MDLers reach a new understanding of where you, I, and many of the other gay men here are coming from.
Now...let's count down to the first commenter accusing YOU of being ME, writing under a screen name alias to encourage and thank MYSELF for being me. lol Just you wait and see...
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I know I have prevailed when the people I'm arguing with resort to the "you have 43 MDL accounts and are just writing back and forth to your multiple persoanlities" thing. hahahaha
He's going to prison for a year. You got your feelings hurt. You'll live.
As for this: "we cannot please everybody, but whatever the judging body saw fit they are doing in order to see a citizen reform their ways and go back in society with hope that they will not repeat it. " Are you Korean? I ask because this is exactly the sort of mealy-mouthed, "the government must know what it's doing" kind of thinking that has for decades fueled abuse and corruption within the Korean legal system.
The fact that you see Yoo's sentence as the Korean law enforcement/court system doing this "in order to see a citizen reform their ways and go back..." shows your extreme naivety to the point of hilarity. The Korean justice machine has shown itself time and again to be concerned with nothing but getting itself lots of press coverage by crucifying famous people in these types of cases.
Forcing celebs to stop in the parking lot to be grilled by blood-thirsty "reporters" in front of cameras every time they go in or out of a police station; multiple, 18-hour interrogations sessions, illegally leaking rumors and innuendo to the press while an investigation is ongoing, etc. This isn't about concern for Yoo as a "citizen," it's about Yoo as someone to trample over to make themselves look hard-ass.
It has been less than nine months since Lee Sun Kyun was hounded to suicide by Korean law enforcement, press, and public. You seem to have forgotten that little incident. Or do you believe the way LSK was treated was in his own best interest, out of a desire to see "a citizen reform his ways and return to society?"
Christ.
More than likely, you're a 16-year-old MDL LG living in south Jersey or Nebraska.
You're as much a SE Asian gay man who courageously protested in the streets of great cities as I am a straight grandma who knits.
I think you're an LG poser.
You ARE that shallow.
What "assumptions about people's sexuality" have been made? Quotes, please.
What a loon.
" Many of us gay men have no problem with the fact that straight women originated BL, and continue to dominate them."
br011185 specifically stated what you just pretended to be informing him of for the first time. Good lord. Then you go on to ask more stupid questions. br011185 did not say that there was anything "wrong" with BLs that don't depict gay hypersexuality. He did not say that a BL without sex scenes makes "being gay any less gay," whatever the hell that means.
If you still believe br011185 wrote these things, please copy/paste them in a reply, because they're not there in his comment. Once again, just as you did in replying to me, you are inferring things never written, then responding to what you made up in your head. Please see someone about those voices between your ears.
Nor did he say or imply that he can't enjoy gay-themed shows that focus "more on emotional connection than physical intimacy."
And that is the weird and frustrating thing about BL watchers like you. For some reason, you are unable to, or refuse to, understand and acknowledge that there is a fabulous sky-wide palette of lovely grays from which to make stories between your pristine, blinding white fantasy of SEX IS ICKY and what you see as a black nightmare of endless b**t-f**king.
Guess what? Almost all good-to-great creative work comes out of that immense gray area. Did you know it is possible to write stories that include "emotional connection" AND "physical intimacy?" It's true, I swear!
Why in the world do you think it has to be all one thing or the other? I suspect you've internalized the homophobic notion, still pervasive in most societies, that gay sex is dirty/nasty/icky/immoral; but if I said that out loud I'd be playing amateur psychologist like you, and I don't want that.
Thank you so much for this beautifully-written show of support, which comes out of the blue, and is gratefully received. What you have expressed here is a summary of feelings and emotions I recognize very well. However, I doubt I have the patience or wisdom to have penned such a moving and sternly accurate description of our relationship, as gay men, to the BL universe (I suspect you've noticed my tendency is more toward bomb-throwing and sarcastic bombast than calm engagement).
Thank you beyond words for writing and posting this. Reading it, I was moved to tears. By reading your words, I hope at least a few MDLers reach a new understanding of where you, I, and many of the other gay men here are coming from.
Now...let's count down to the first commenter accusing YOU of being ME, writing under a screen name alias to encourage and thank MYSELF for being me. lol Just you wait and see...
Hugs.