they are apologizing bcus of one part where she was signing & it froze having her middle finger up. literally…
It's actually a deliberate joke originating from the source material, which I'm guessing you found amusing, no? Don't you feel condescended to by faux concerned viewers pretending to be offended on your behalf? I'm bald and see/hear bald jokes all the time. I do this thing called laughing.
I have deaf family members and i get the criticism. Korea has a long standing record of not being respectful of…
No. Your comment implies that deaf people do not have a sense of humor and are hyper-sensitive to the thing we call a "JOKE." I'd be willing to bet any deaf person watching this show laughed their ass off at the middle finger visual gag. I'd also be willing to bet you don't have any deaf family members.
It's not a "culture telling you something is offensive or can be seen that way..." it's a few busy-body netizens desparate to feel they have power. You're probably one of them.
If everything potentially "offensive" were removed from fiction, there would be no fiction. Are you not offended by murder, rape, kidnapping, war, theft, beheadings, genocide, lying, adultery, dictatorship, child abuse, sex trafficking, or a thousand other vile things that are featured in live-action fiction of all kinds? Apparently not. Thus, I can conclude that a show portraying a vicious rape, but which showed in the middle of it a perpetrator mistakenly signing the middle finger to another perp, would be OK with you except for the middle finger part.
It's the MIDDLE FINGER ON PURPOSE. It's called a "joke," and it's right out of the source material. Why didn't the producers say "It's in the source material, get a life, and STFU?"
When are Korean broadcasters, movie-makers, production houses, actors, and idols going to learn to stop apologizing for every little freaking thing two or three twits online complain about to make themselves feel "seen?"
I'm wondering if the complainers are even deaf, because I'm pretty sure deaf people also have this thing called A SENSE OF HUMOR. These kind of delicate flower reactions are condescending af.
It may seem a stretch but it's not, to say that this is just another tendril of the unhealthy netizen/entertainment/fan/puritan/celebrity psychosis in Korean society that leads to celebrity suicides. Every little f**king thing is leaped upon as an excuse to bitch and moan and put on the pretense of being offended from an imagined perch of righteous superiority. Seriously f**k off with these people.
The Korean Suicide Machine took out Lee Sun Kyun not quite a year ago, claimed another younger actor a couple of months ago, has been working overtime to kill off Yoo Ah In for going on two years, and has geared up to destroy Jung Woo Sung just in the last couple of weeks. Over the last 30 years it has claimed dozens of Korean entertainers. Since there's no chance of netizens growing up, the entertainment industry needs to stop feeding the beast with these stupid apologies.
I mean, what were they supposed to do? The drama is based on a novel. The scene where FL is interpreting for the…
It's Korea. You apologize for your apology, after making the first apology a second time, all in response to three or four hyperactive Netizens in comments.
TVer calls the series in English -- Minors: We are immature and proceeding awkwardlyWhich is a title that makes…
hahahaha...that's hilarious, but kind of accurate too. It would fit the show even better if it were more of a slapstick comedy. :) With slight adjustments this could also be the title of my current life:
"Senior: I am immature and proceeding awkwardly anyway."
I've come to regard this trilogy as quite an enjoyable ride. I just finished watching all three installments in order. I watched the first two almost four years ago when I had recently discovered the wonderful universe of Asian gay cinema, BL, and mainstream Asian cinema.
I now know that four years ago I was nowhere near ready to appreciate this sort of thing. lol I'm American and while I had watched many European and Spanish-language films, Hollywood fare was 90% of my film-watching experience. Now, I rarely watch American films at all. I am entirely an Asian cinephile and BL addict, with my fave stuff coming out of Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, and Taiwan in that order, generally speaking.
My perspective and tastes in film and dramas have changed and grown immensely in four years.
The Shortest Distance Is Round trilogy is cheesy/sexy/hot/tender/kinky/weird/violent in all the ways I didn't know I was missing before four years ago. It runs the gamut from bad acting to incredibly hot sex to bad dialogue to great acting to tender, moving intimacy...it's all here and I love it. :)
For what it is, and it doesn't try to be anything other than that, this is a 9/10 for me.
STRONGBERRY is the best. This one makes little sense and is often badly acted, but who cares? It's often funny too. We won't bother to discuss the special effects, such as they are. :D
It's worth the watch just for the hot sex scene and nice butt shots. That aside, it's also worth the watch as a means of appreciating how much better and better Strongberry's product has gotten over the last three years.
Many of my top 30 fave short films are Strongberry content.
7/10 for the cute boys and hot butts. I was especially warm for the evil, curse-casting friend of the group. I wanted someone to hook up with the bar owner too. :) Also, the yoga instructor is a lead in Strongberry's short film "Some More." Check it out.
Help? Google translate says the title of this show in English is " Miseinen: Mijukuna We Are In Trouble," but gives no translation for " Miseinen: Mijukuna." Are those nicknames for the MC characters? Can anyone fluent in Japanese help me out here?
The two mains have beautifully portrayed the ongoing development of their relationship in a believable and moving way. Not too quick, not too slow, with plausible fits and starts and hesitations along the way. Nicely done. My heart has been warmed by their interactions more and more as we go.
Haruki is SOOOO appealing a character, in that even given his horrible circumstances, where Jin is concerned he always sees the bright side: "Hmmm...he said 'not at school...'" lol I love him. :) He has so many valid reasons to be bitter and angry at the world, but most of the time he's laid back in the face of the shite coming from all directions so unfairly.
As hideous as his character is, Okui Shuji is great as the abusive dad. He seems very real; not a caricature such as we see so often in this type of BL parent. Also, the physical violence is believably blocked and acted by him and Kamimura Kenshin as Haruki. Totally feels real. Every time the dad punches that gorgeous face with those glorious cheekbones I cringe. As I suspected and as I watched the brief preview, it's only a matter of time before Haruki stands his ground. Thing is, will he be the one in trouble with the usual dumbass authorities if he does so? Yes, probably.
Way too many time-filler flashbacks in this episode. What's with showing half the episode, then breaking for the intro section/song? Kind of messes with the flow. Same with the end credits that start popping up in later scenes. Is that now considered a cool thing to do among Japanese BL makers?
Also...what's with Haruki's mom being 30 years old with a baby? And how on Earth would she not know, given that she left Haruki's dad because of his behavior, that those cuts and bruises are NOT coming from school fights? The way she's written so far, she comes off as a clueless b***h who's happy to look the other way. But seriously, is that supposed to be his birth mom? Did she have Haruki at 16 years of age? wtf?
Despite all these complaints, the good stuff here more than atones for the negatives. I just keep thinking how good the show would be if those negatives were taken care of.
Note: The freeze-frame image at the very end of the post-episode preview is stunning.
Reviewing the end of ep. 4 before beginning ep. 5: I have to say again how stunning Motojima Junsei's acting is when Jin pulls away from that kiss and with tears in his eyes, says to Haruki "I don't want to study abroad..." Broke me.
Oh you poor baby. Someone "attacked" you by pointing out the bogus aspects of your comment. Someone "rained on your parade" with some snark on the Internet. How will you live?
As for trauma, I think I qualify: I am gay and knew I was "different" from about the age of 4. I was raised in a religious environment, endured 8 years of parochial school, with church and Sunday school where I was taught every day to loathe gay people and myself. Naturally, I stayed in the closet out of a survival instinct. I often entertained suicidal thoughts. I was traumatized as f**k, Jennie, so you know, zip it. Your assumptions are s**t.
Did anyone say you weren't entitled to your opinion? No, no one said that, least of all me. What you are NOT entitled to, Jennie, is a guarantee that no one on the Internet will challenge your statements.
Finally, you're a female, either straight or Lesbian or bi; I don't know. But since you're not a gay man with the experiences of a gay boy in his psyche, maybe you should watch BLs as the typical ignorant, straight Western fujoshi you are, who knows zero about the reality of being a gay boy/man. Consider enjoying your BL fantasies, but maybe shut it with the perspective-free comments.
Can you quote me where I told you to stop watching BLs? Thanks, I'll wait. I drop lots of BLs, Jennie. I kept watching this one because it is more good than bad. Making choices about which ones to watch and which ones to drop is the result of possessing "discernment" as a personality trait. Look it up. It's not a "watch them all or watch none of them" issue, though you'd like to pretend it is.
The absurd, double back-flip trope of not one, but TWO characters "doing what's best for the other behind their back and without communication" is NOT a common trope outside of BL World. Furthermore, the tropes were executed here with zero originality in the WAY they came about or played out. It's always some meanie adult forcing a dude to "go abroad" to study, blah blah blah.
I know this because I'm not 12 years old and I watch lots of feature films from all over the world.
You need to expand your viewing experiences and start learning some discernment before you lecture anyone about what are "common" fiction tropes. Good god.
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It's not a "culture telling you something is offensive or can be seen that way..." it's a few busy-body netizens desparate to feel they have power. You're probably one of them.
If everything potentially "offensive" were removed from fiction, there would be no fiction. Are you not offended by murder, rape, kidnapping, war, theft, beheadings, genocide, lying, adultery, dictatorship, child abuse, sex trafficking, or a thousand other vile things that are featured in live-action fiction of all kinds? Apparently not. Thus, I can conclude that a show portraying a vicious rape, but which showed in the middle of it a perpetrator mistakenly signing the middle finger to another perp, would be OK with you except for the middle finger part.
My god, get a grip.
When are Korean broadcasters, movie-makers, production houses, actors, and idols going to learn to stop apologizing for every little freaking thing two or three twits online complain about to make themselves feel "seen?"
I'm wondering if the complainers are even deaf, because I'm pretty sure deaf people also have this thing called A SENSE OF HUMOR. These kind of delicate flower reactions are condescending af.
It may seem a stretch but it's not, to say that this is just another tendril of the unhealthy netizen/entertainment/fan/puritan/celebrity psychosis in Korean society that leads to celebrity suicides. Every little f**king thing is leaped upon as an excuse to bitch and moan and put on the pretense of being offended from an imagined perch of righteous superiority. Seriously f**k off with these people.
The Korean Suicide Machine took out Lee Sun Kyun not quite a year ago, claimed another younger actor a couple of months ago, has been working overtime to kill off Yoo Ah In for going on two years, and has geared up to destroy Jung Woo Sung just in the last couple of weeks. Over the last 30 years it has claimed dozens of Korean entertainers. Since there's no chance of netizens growing up, the entertainment industry needs to stop feeding the beast with these stupid apologies.
"Senior: I am immature and proceeding awkwardly anyway."
I now know that four years ago I was nowhere near ready to appreciate this sort of thing. lol I'm American and while I had watched many European and Spanish-language films, Hollywood fare was 90% of my film-watching experience. Now, I rarely watch American films at all. I am entirely an Asian cinephile and BL addict, with my fave stuff coming out of Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, and Taiwan in that order, generally speaking.
My perspective and tastes in film and dramas have changed and grown immensely in four years.
The Shortest Distance Is Round trilogy is cheesy/sexy/hot/tender/kinky/weird/violent in all the ways I didn't know I was missing before four years ago. It runs the gamut from bad acting to incredibly hot sex to bad dialogue to great acting to tender, moving intimacy...it's all here and I love it. :)
For what it is, and it doesn't try to be anything other than that, this is a 9/10 for me.
This one makes little sense and is often badly acted, but who cares? It's often funny too. We won't bother to discuss the special effects, such as they are. :D
It's worth the watch just for the hot sex scene and nice butt shots. That aside, it's also worth the watch as a means of appreciating how much better and better Strongberry's product has gotten over the last three years.
Many of my top 30 fave short films are Strongberry content.
7/10 for the cute boys and hot butts. I was especially warm for the evil, curse-casting friend of the group. I wanted someone to hook up with the bar owner too. :) Also, the yoga instructor is a lead in Strongberry's short film "Some More." Check it out.
Google translate says the title of this show in English is " Miseinen: Mijukuna We Are In Trouble," but gives no translation for " Miseinen: Mijukuna." Are those nicknames for the MC characters? Can anyone fluent in Japanese help me out here?
Thanks in advance.
Goodness. This show has become excellent.
The two mains have beautifully portrayed the ongoing development of their relationship in a believable and moving way. Not too quick, not too slow, with plausible fits and starts and hesitations along the way. Nicely done. My heart has been warmed by their interactions more and more as we go.
Haruki is SOOOO appealing a character, in that even given his horrible circumstances, where Jin is concerned he always sees the bright side: "Hmmm...he said 'not at school...'" lol I love him. :) He has so many valid reasons to be bitter and angry at the world, but most of the time he's laid back in the face of the shite coming from all directions so unfairly.
As hideous as his character is, Okui Shuji is great as the abusive dad. He seems very real; not a caricature such as we see so often in this type of BL parent. Also, the physical violence is believably blocked and acted by him and Kamimura Kenshin as Haruki. Totally feels real. Every time the dad punches that gorgeous face with those glorious cheekbones I cringe. As I suspected and as I watched the brief preview, it's only a matter of time before Haruki stands his ground. Thing is, will he be the one in trouble with the usual dumbass authorities if he does so? Yes, probably.
Way too many time-filler flashbacks in this episode. What's with showing half the episode, then breaking for the intro section/song? Kind of messes with the flow. Same with the end credits that start popping up in later scenes. Is that now considered a cool thing to do among Japanese BL makers?
Also...what's with Haruki's mom being 30 years old with a baby? And how on Earth would she not know, given that she left Haruki's dad because of his behavior, that those cuts and bruises are NOT coming from school fights? The way she's written so far, she comes off as a clueless b***h who's happy to look the other way. But seriously, is that supposed to be his birth mom? Did she have Haruki at 16 years of age? wtf?
Despite all these complaints, the good stuff here more than atones for the negatives. I just keep thinking how good the show would be if those negatives were taken care of.
Note: The freeze-frame image at the very end of the post-episode preview is stunning.
Thank god, then I can look forward to no further pointless replies from you. Thanks.
Oh you poor baby. Someone "attacked" you by pointing out the bogus aspects of your comment. Someone "rained on your parade" with some snark on the Internet. How will you live?
As for trauma, I think I qualify: I am gay and knew I was "different" from about the age of 4. I was raised in a religious environment, endured 8 years of parochial school, with church and Sunday school where I was taught every day to loathe gay people and myself. Naturally, I stayed in the closet out of a survival instinct. I often entertained suicidal thoughts. I was traumatized as f**k, Jennie, so you know, zip it. Your assumptions are s**t.
Did anyone say you weren't entitled to your opinion? No, no one said that, least of all me. What you are NOT entitled to, Jennie, is a guarantee that no one on the Internet will challenge your statements.
Finally, you're a female, either straight or Lesbian or bi; I don't know. But since you're not a gay man with the experiences of a gay boy in his psyche, maybe you should watch BLs as the typical ignorant, straight Western fujoshi you are, who knows zero about the reality of being a gay boy/man. Consider enjoying your BL fantasies, but maybe shut it with the perspective-free comments.
The absurd, double back-flip trope of not one, but TWO characters "doing what's best for the other behind their back and without communication" is NOT a common trope outside of BL World. Furthermore, the tropes were executed here with zero originality in the WAY they came about or played out. It's always some meanie adult forcing a dude to "go abroad" to study, blah blah blah.
I know this because I'm not 12 years old and I watch lots of feature films from all over the world.
You need to expand your viewing experiences and start learning some discernment before you lecture anyone about what are "common"
fiction tropes. Good god.