As to the rating, you are exactly right: Up is down in MDL world.
Neo was Duean in "Fish Upon the Sky," and he's been in supporting roles in a several other Thai BLs I couldn't stomach. He's a natural comedic actor. Very handsome too.
I can't pass and flush if I don't first swallow and digest. :)
Plus, you never know when something edible like "Moonlight Chicken" might somehow make it off the assembly line. It has been a long time, but sooner or later it's bound to happen.
I've liked Pond ever since Fish Upon the Sky, but with the scripts and direction he keeps getting he doesn't stand a chance. Phuwin is blah.
I'd love to see Neo given something useful to do, too. I get a kick out of him. Apparently, he is not blowing the right executives at GMMTV
I also found the first episode a bit slow but I don't think this harsh assumption for the entire show is accurate…
Seems you're a bit too simple-minded and lacking in standards with your opinions. Which makes you a perfect member of the target audience for TOOTS. Thailand thanks you for your $$$ and absence of taste.
I love when passive-aggressive types like you write "good luck to you" because they're too cowardly to say "f**k off." lol
I also found the first episode a bit slow but I don't think this harsh assumption for the entire show is accurate…
"...a bit slow..." is all you found wrong with that? Our taste levels are diametrically opposed to each other. I wish BL fans would stop watching lowest-common-denominator pablum like this so the Thai industry would be forced to up its game.
Another turd flushed from the Thai BL Assembly Line Toilet.
How any production company/director/writers could make two such appealing actors as Pond and Phuwin seem bland and vacuous is beyond me. The story/acting/direction are so bad that even these guys' looks and chemistry are overwhelmed. When are Pond/Phuwin going to escape to Korea or Japan where they can begin real careers? Both of them will disappear once they age out of BL.
Three-quarters of the first episode was enough for me to know this is yet another TOOT (Turd Out Of Thailand).
Did you think so? I think it was tonally at odds with the first two, but I still enjoyed it.
I'm a gay dude from one of those "older generations" you mentioned. I did everything I could to deny/pretend/avoid/not be who I was for 36 years. It didn't work and was horribly destructive to me and those around me. I believe fewer young gay people make that choice than in my day, but it still happens way too often.
On the other hand, I have three grown children and three grandchildren who wouldn't be on the Earth had I not made the choices I did, so who the hell knows what's what? :P
I am stunned. I am a mess from watching this just now. What I admire the most about this film, and there is much to admire, is that it pulled no punches in its balls-out portrayal of the insane inhumanity, the grotesque futility, the god-awful bloody, meat-grinding ugliness of war.
I have been conditioned by way too many Hollywood war films in my years before finding Asian cinema, to expect some relief in the form of a happy ending for somebody, anybody in the outcome of this battle. I found myself yearning for something like that to come because that's what I've usually seen before. Not this time...and I am glad of that. Because war sucks in every possible way.
But many times, as in this case, there is no other way but to engage when confronted with a ruthless aggressor who attacks, else all will be lost for everyone and everything we care about.
I'm babbling, but this is a very good war film, centered on what, in the scheme of history was a very small incident; but which to those who fought it was all-consuming. Bless every one of them.
I might have given the film a 9.5/10 rating had it not been for the slow second quarter during which it meandered around on land among the sailors and their families. I know what was being attempted, but that part of the story failed for me. Something was off; it didn't feel genuine.
Did you think so? I think it was tonally at odds with the first two, but I still enjoyed it.
I found the bit with the girl not believable, and a distraction from the core of the story. Why would she be attracted to Futoshi, who in her own words is "girly?" It's not as though he suddenly became wildly popular and she was seeking status. To me, it felt like an excuse for us to laugh when he threw up.
What’s sad is that we tend to judge and pile on, without facts. It hurts that he could not envision daylight…
Well said. I agree.
I was more worried about Yoo Ah In when he was still free and the "scandal" was ongoing, because I have no idea what kind of personal, emotional support he has and I fretted that he would take his own life.
I continue to be concerned for his mental health and life but presumably (and it being Korea, I'm assuming a lot here) he is under close watch while in jail. I can't bring myself to write "prison" because the fact he's there is just so wrong. Supposedly, he is undergoing drug treatment as he serves his absurd sentence.
Yes, most Korean celebs are cowards who hide in the corners when their peers are under attack. But then when it's their turn...
This flick gets better with every watch. Needs SOME background/character development on Murai. I know nothing about his past...because the film tells me nothing. Did he suddenly appear one day out of nowhere?
Ending is, once again, a cop-out. I'd love to see a Korean remake of this.
I spent half my time reading your comment while thinking "what the hell is this guy talking about? lol
NO ONE could pick up all thaton one watch and without a LOT of pre-watch research. Are you claiming to have understood all you include in your comment in ONE watch with no prior knowledge of the plot and its background?
Using the term "...unable to understand..." as though 99% of viewers, who will NOT understand this film on first watch are intellectually disabled, is unnecessarily insulting.
Perhaps people, myself included (I adore this film and will rewatch it multiple times) were "unable to understand it" because it was not written, plotted, edited, or directed well enough to convey its extremely complicated story. By movie's end, I had concluded that the director does not CARE if his audience understands his story; he's getting off on the look and vibe of the film. It's a typical directorial form of masturbation. "My film is so awesome I don't give a fuck if anyone gets it."
I've read a shit-ton of reviews of TTOH and no one claims to understand this film The director and writers are perhaps deliberately sloppy.
I will ask one question that I think even you did not answer above: Who is Yao Hua's mom?
"Content warning: Vomiting" lol You are a piece of work. Content warning: Sneezing Content warning: Taking a dump (off-camera) Content warning: Stubs toe Content warning: Coughing Content warning: Living life
If you were "put off" by an age difference you inferred, why did you watch the show? I've always thought you're the type who seeks to be offended. Aren't you going to go nuts over the dreaded "age gap?"
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Neo was Duean in "Fish Upon the Sky," and he's been in supporting roles in a several other Thai BLs I couldn't stomach. He's a natural comedic actor. Very handsome too.
https://kisskh.at/people/19052-neo-nimtawat-trai
Plus, you never know when something edible like "Moonlight Chicken" might somehow make it off the assembly line. It has been a long time, but sooner or later it's bound to happen.
I've liked Pond ever since Fish Upon the Sky, but with the scripts and direction he keeps getting he doesn't stand a chance. Phuwin is blah.
I'd love to see Neo given something useful to do, too. I get a kick out of him. Apparently, he is not blowing the right executives at GMMTV
I love when passive-aggressive types like you write "good luck to you" because they're too cowardly to say "f**k off." lol
Our taste levels are diametrically opposed to each other.
I wish BL fans would stop watching lowest-common-denominator pablum like this so the Thai industry would be forced to up its game.
How any production company/director/writers could make two such appealing actors as Pond and Phuwin seem bland and vacuous is beyond me. The story/acting/direction are so bad that even these guys' looks and chemistry are overwhelmed. When are Pond/Phuwin going to escape to Korea or Japan where they can begin real careers? Both of them will disappear once they age out of BL.
Three-quarters of the first episode was enough for me to know this is yet another TOOT (Turd Out Of Thailand).
1/10
On the other hand, I have three grown children and three grandchildren who wouldn't be on the Earth had I not made the choices I did, so who the hell knows what's what? :P
I am stunned. I am a mess from watching this just now. What I admire the most about this film, and there is much to admire, is that it pulled no punches in its balls-out portrayal of the insane inhumanity, the grotesque futility, the god-awful bloody, meat-grinding ugliness of war.
I have been conditioned by way too many Hollywood war films in my years before finding Asian cinema, to expect some relief in the form of a happy ending for somebody, anybody in the outcome of this battle. I found myself yearning for something like that to come because that's what I've usually seen before. Not this time...and I am glad of that. Because war sucks in every possible way.
But many times, as in this case, there is no other way but to engage when confronted with a ruthless aggressor who attacks, else all will be lost for everyone and everything we care about.
I'm babbling, but this is a very good war film, centered on what, in the scheme of history was a very small incident; but which to those who fought it was all-consuming. Bless every one of them.
I might have given the film a 9.5/10 rating had it not been for the slow second quarter during which it meandered around on land among the sailors and their families. I know what was being attempted, but that part of the story failed for me. Something was off; it didn't feel genuine.
8.5/10 Highly recommended.
I was more worried about Yoo Ah In when he was still free and the "scandal" was ongoing, because I have no idea what kind of personal, emotional support he has and I fretted that he would take his own life.
I continue to be concerned for his mental health and life but presumably (and it being Korea, I'm assuming a lot here) he is under close watch while in jail. I can't bring myself to write "prison" because the fact he's there is just so wrong. Supposedly, he is undergoing drug treatment as he serves his absurd sentence.
Yes, most Korean celebs are cowards who hide in the corners when their peers are under attack. But then when it's their turn...
Needs SOME background/character development on Murai. I know nothing about his past...because the film tells me nothing. Did he suddenly appear one day out of nowhere?
Ending is, once again, a cop-out.
I'd love to see a Korean remake of this.
The big hair and big coats are fun. :)
NO ONE could pick up all thaton one watch and without a LOT of pre-watch research. Are you claiming to have understood all you include in your comment in ONE watch with no prior knowledge of the plot and its background?
Using the term "...unable to understand..." as though 99% of viewers, who will NOT understand this film on first watch are intellectually disabled, is unnecessarily insulting.
Perhaps people, myself included (I adore this film and will rewatch it multiple times) were "unable to understand it" because it was not written, plotted, edited, or directed well enough to convey its extremely complicated story. By movie's end, I had concluded that the director does not CARE if his audience understands his story; he's getting off on the look and vibe of the film. It's a typical directorial form of masturbation. "My film is so awesome I don't give a fuck if anyone gets it."
I've read a shit-ton of reviews of TTOH and no one claims to understand this film The director and writers are perhaps deliberately sloppy.
I will ask one question that I think even you did not answer above: Who is Yao Hua's mom?
Content warning: Sneezing
Content warning: Taking a dump (off-camera)
Content warning: Stubs toe
Content warning: Coughing
Content warning: Living life
If you were "put off" by an age difference you inferred, why did you watch the show? I've always thought you're the type who seeks to be offended. Aren't you going to go nuts over the dreaded "age gap?"