I worry a little every day that Yoo might take LSK's route to peace of mind.
I haven't been able to find anything online about what kind of a family/friends/medical/psychological support system he has around him as this drags on. Do you know anything?
What do you expect from people who go like : “ this is the best bl. this my favorite bl” and give it 9.5 and…
Exactly. I just wanted to vent. I like this site for organizing, rating and keeping track of what I watch, as well as finding movies and series I would otherwise never hear of, but my god, the taste level here is amazingly low and juvenile.
If I love or hate a show, I can be sure the MDL rating will be in direct opposition to the rating I give it. Oh well.
it's not :) it's just awkward especially for western culture...
"If you can't think for yourself, you will never have a chance to change yourself." I think for myself just fine, thank you. It's rather pathetic that you see asking questions as indicative of a lack of independent thinking skills. Perhaps you should try asking more questions and making fewer pronouncements.
The only watchable Thai BL produced in the last two years was "Midnight Chicken," if you have any standards at all.
it's not :) it's just awkward especially for western culture...
Hugging does not mean "nothing" in the U.S. It is the most intense form of expressing love between friends, family, or lovers. It is, of course, much more common here than in Japan, but to say it "means nothing" is going way too far. Casual friends do not hug each other in the U.S.
There haven't been any good Thai BLs made in the last two years, so I won't be looking for hugging there.
Saying that the lack of physical expressions of love in Japanese films/series sometimes "frustrates" me does not mean that I think it should change or that I want it to.
I ask again: WHAT are they defending themselves from in refraining from hugging even close friends and family? It's not a criticism to ask that question; it's an attempt to understand that aspect of Japanese culture. From what I've read up on this, it's mostly a matter of manners and dignified restraint, not protection.
LSK wasn't "lost," he killed himself after being driven to despair by months of harassment from Korean police,…
GASLIGHTING: "Gaslighting is an insidious form of manipulation and psychological control. Victims of gaslighting are deliberately and systematically fed false information that leads them to question what they know to be true, often about themselves. They may end up doubting their memory, their perception, and even their sanity."
HAHAHAHAHA...you are certainly a tender little flower, aren't you? Seems to me if someone makes you question your perspective, your first reaction is to shriek "GASLIGHTING!" so you don't have to think any deeper. lol
I consider it a compliment that in this short conversation, you believe I have led you to question what you know to be true, who you are, your memories, and your sanity. Good lord, get a grip.
As I've already said, I will post comments where and under what other comments I choose, kind of like you did above when YOU replied to MY comment without being invited. HOW DARE YOU?!!!
it's not :) it's just awkward especially for western culture...
You know, "frustration" is a good word for what I feel when I watch Japanese characters greet loved ones, even those they haven't seen in a long time, but nobody hugs. Grasping hands is about as far as it usually goes. Oftentimes, if it's an emotional reunion, I want them to hug so badly that yes, it frustrates me. :)
I don't know if there's much distance between being submissive and protecting yourself in those circumstances. I'd wonder what they're protecting themselves from, however.
I certainly DO agree about weird stories. That is my favorite kind. Dark, somewhat disturbing, and yes...weird. :D
LSK wasn't "lost," he killed himself after being driven to despair by months of harassment from Korean police,…
Not sure why you quote me above. I'm NOT stopping anyone, unless you believe that a negative comment about your "queen" freezes all pro-queen people's fingers and they can't type anymore.
"You know I don't care how you feel about her..." HAHAHAHA...oh yes, you care. You care very much.
Scrolling past my comments is an option for you as well. It's always odd to see commenters like you who feel if someone disparages a show or actor you like, that somehow your enjoyment of or freedom to appreciate that has been diminished. YOU are the one in control of that, not me. I'll post what I want.
On a public comment thread, anything anyone posts is as much "my business" as it is yours or any other person's. Grow up. The world doesn't owe you a disagreement-free zone.
it's not :) it's just awkward especially for western culture...
Either way, it's quite a statement to say "they" are "emotionless" or "subtle," as if the many thousands of live-action Japanese films and series are all the same. In the few years I've been watching Asian cinema/dramas, I've come to believe this seeming lack of emotion is largely cultural.
The Japanese, especially women, take on this timid, submissive-seeming demeanor in body language and speech, to the point they seem to be apologizing every minute for existing. The men are much less so, especially in war movies where they all scream at each other most of the time, but the deferring manner still shows itself.
In Japan, expressing strong emotions in public is considered unseemly, even rude. You seldom see them hug when greeting each other, even their closest family members. That too is frowned upon as showing a lack of restraint and propriety. I have wondered how the Japanese manage to procreate, as sex is quite an intimate and physical act.
Thus, it is unsurprising that to many viewers, the commenter and myself included, Japanese live-action media can come off as emotionless. Yes, you could call it "subtle," but it's a matter of degree and circumstance in any given show. I have to agree with the commenter that Asami comes off as emotionless and fearful, which is strange for a character who is supposedly an actor who has done a lot of work, in school at least.
Instead, we get a quiet, trembling mouse of a character, who realistically, would never have been cast in a community theatre production, let alone a full-budget BL series. He's boring.
This is a very long-winded way of saying that TO THE COMMENTER ABOVE, the characters seem emotionless. Yes, it's a cultural thing, but they find it off-putting and frustrating, so it makes sense to stop watching. However, there are several Japanese BLs on my favorites list. I do not enjoy watching emotionless characters, so to me, those are shows featuring lively plots and characters.
Maybe he was going to throw the Malatov cocktails at the asteroid.
Yeah, I don't even have a guess at this point as to how much of Yoo was cut out. Logically, it seems if you're going to cut an actor's part down, why not cut them OUT altogether, but there is nothing logical about Korea when it comes to this type of thing.
The plot is very much a multi-story, multi-character driven, ensemble affair, so maybe he wasn't cut much at all. There's no way to know. But a lot of cuts would explain the horrible, choppy editing and all the boring scenes of people standing around talking.
The weirdest thing is that thing that was inserted in Yoo's side when he was shown laying on the floor all bloody in his undies after those armed dudes got hold of him early on. Then later we saw him in the bathroom looking at the scar and you could see a red light through his skin. Also, his GF noticed the scar when he was sleeping.
However, it was never explained what the hell the thing in his side was. We got no info about that at all. Which is really bizarre, because why show us that thing at all if it's never going to be explained? That oddness leads me to think an entire storyline about him being implanted with some kind of tracking device or god knows what was cut from the final edit.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think the dumb director cut a LOT of Yoo, along with that plot line, out of the series, thus leaving what he left and added back in seem so meandering, boring and choppy.
What an idiot to butcher your own project you've been slaving over for more than a year, to please some stupid Korean netizens! At best, he could have cut Yoo from the Korean Netflix version and shown his unedited version to the rest of the world. I don't think Netflix was leaning on him to cut Yoo out. NF likes making $$$ and Yoo is a big draw internationally.
LSK wasn't "lost," he killed himself after being driven to despair by months of harassment from Korean police,…
1. I'm not stopping anyone from appreciating IUD's terrible acting. 2. I did not say "everyone has to agree with..." me.
Yeah, I definitely have a bug up my ass regarding K-Pop idols who leap-frog over actually talented actors and get cast in projects for their supposed commercial appeal.
Maybe he was going to throw the Malatov cocktails at the asteroid.
lol Maybe. I was thinking later he was going to blow up a ship or two that was going to transport the trafficked kids...but again, why? Everyone and everything is going to blow up very soon or that night anyway. This show is a clown-car of bad writing.
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If I love or hate a show, I can be sure the MDL rating will be in direct opposition to the rating I give it. Oh well.
The only watchable Thai BL produced in the last two years was "Midnight Chicken," if you have any standards at all.
It is the most intense form of expressing love between friends, family, or lovers. It is, of course, much more common here than in Japan, but to say it "means nothing" is going way too far. Casual friends do not hug each other in the U.S.
There haven't been any good Thai BLs made in the last two years, so I won't be looking for hugging there.
Saying that the lack of physical expressions of love in Japanese films/series sometimes "frustrates" me does not mean that I think it should change or that I want it to.
I ask again: WHAT are they defending themselves from in refraining from hugging even close friends and family? It's not a criticism to ask that question; it's an attempt to understand that aspect of Japanese culture. From what I've read up on this, it's mostly a matter of manners and dignified restraint, not protection.
Where do you get these rules about comments/posts? Is there an MDL comments-posting rules page I missed?
Please read my comment hidden under the spoiler button above and let me know your thoughts.
Other than that, I'm really glad I watched it.
"Gaslighting is an insidious form of manipulation and psychological control. Victims of gaslighting are deliberately and systematically fed false information that leads them to question what they know to be true, often about themselves. They may end up doubting their memory, their perception, and even their sanity."
HAHAHAHAHA...you are certainly a tender little flower, aren't you? Seems to me if someone makes you question your perspective, your first reaction is to shriek "GASLIGHTING!" so you don't have to think any deeper. lol
I consider it a compliment that in this short conversation, you believe I have led you to question what you know to be true, who you are, your memories, and your sanity. Good lord, get a grip.
As I've already said, I will post comments where and under what other comments I choose, kind of like you did above when YOU replied to MY comment without being invited. HOW DARE YOU?!!!
What a dweeb.
I don't know if there's much distance between being submissive and protecting yourself in those circumstances. I'd wonder what they're protecting themselves from, however.
I certainly DO agree about weird stories. That is my favorite kind. Dark, somewhat disturbing, and yes...weird. :D
"You know I don't care how you feel about her..." HAHAHAHA...oh yes, you care. You care very much.
Scrolling past my comments is an option for you as well.
It's always odd to see commenters like you who feel if someone disparages a show or actor you like, that somehow your enjoyment of or freedom to appreciate that has been diminished. YOU are the one in control of that, not me. I'll post what I want.
On a public comment thread, anything anyone posts is as much "my business" as it is yours or any other person's. Grow up. The world doesn't owe you a disagreement-free zone.
The Japanese, especially women, take on this timid, submissive-seeming demeanor in body language and speech, to the point they seem to be apologizing every minute for existing. The men are much less so, especially in war movies where they all scream at each other most of the time, but the deferring manner still shows itself.
In Japan, expressing strong emotions in public is considered unseemly, even rude. You seldom see them hug when greeting each other, even their closest family members. That too is frowned upon as showing a lack of restraint and propriety. I have wondered how the Japanese manage to procreate, as sex is quite an intimate and physical act.
Thus, it is unsurprising that to many viewers, the commenter and myself included, Japanese live-action media can come off as emotionless. Yes, you could call it "subtle," but it's a matter of degree and circumstance in any given show. I have to agree with the commenter that Asami comes off as emotionless and fearful, which is strange for a character who is supposedly an actor who has done a lot of work, in school at least.
Instead, we get a quiet, trembling mouse of a character, who realistically, would never have been cast in a community theatre production, let alone a full-budget BL series. He's boring.
This is a very long-winded way of saying that TO THE COMMENTER ABOVE, the characters seem emotionless. Yes, it's a cultural thing, but they find it off-putting and frustrating, so it makes sense to stop watching. However, there are several Japanese BLs on my favorites list. I do not enjoy watching emotionless characters, so to me, those are shows featuring lively plots and characters.
The plot is very much a multi-story, multi-character driven, ensemble affair, so maybe he wasn't cut much at all. There's no way to know. But a lot of cuts would explain the horrible, choppy editing and all the boring scenes of people standing around talking.
The weirdest thing is that thing that was inserted in Yoo's side when he was shown laying on the floor all bloody in his undies after those armed dudes got hold of him early on. Then later we saw him in the bathroom looking at the scar and you could see a red light through his skin. Also, his GF noticed the scar when he was sleeping.
However, it was never explained what the hell the thing in his side was. We got no info about that at all. Which is really bizarre, because why show us that thing at all if it's never going to be explained? That oddness leads me to think an entire storyline about him being implanted with some kind of tracking device or god knows what was cut from the final edit.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think the dumb director cut a LOT of Yoo, along with that plot line, out of the series, thus leaving what he left and added back in seem so meandering, boring and choppy.
What an idiot to butcher your own project you've been slaving over for more than a year, to please some stupid Korean netizens! At best, he could have cut Yoo from the Korean Netflix version and shown his unedited version to the rest of the world. I don't think Netflix was leaning on him to cut Yoo out. NF likes making $$$ and Yoo is a big draw internationally.
2. I did not say "everyone has to agree with..." me.
Yeah, I definitely have a bug up my ass regarding K-Pop idols who leap-frog over actually talented actors and get cast in projects for their supposed commercial appeal.
I was thinking later he was going to blow up a ship or two that was going to transport the trafficked kids...but again, why? Everyone and everything is going to blow up very soon or that night anyway. This show is a clown-car of bad writing.
8/10