It's the best of the three seasons. It features actual, real human failings, along with concepts a lot of self-righteous,…
I just now am re-watching the show for the third time, so I hadn't seen your comment until now. It's one of the best Thai BLs there is, and the behavior that freaks out all the little girls here is a big part of what makes it a powerful drama, instead of the limp fluff we mostly get out of Thailand these days.
Thank youuuu! Also agree 100% with what you said! I think reading the comments for this show was when it dawned…
MDL demographics show the site to be dominated by a cohort of Western females in their upper teens. Most in the U.S., where SJW/PC/sex-negative thinking has taken over a generation. It's pathetic. They think they have some right to go through life without having to confront and experience behavior they don't like, as well as the feelings that accompany doing so.
"This makes me uncomfortable" is their rallying cry. Dramatic stories are SUPPOSED TO make you uncomfortable. They also think the audience immediately condones and imitates negative behavior just because they see it in a live-action show. These people are beyond lame.
THANK YOU. I'm back for a third watch of TWM-TNC over three years. I love this show BECAUSE of the plot elements that so many 13 year-olds here lose their minds over.
Cheating happens. So does forgiveness, regret and apology, redemption, and love, love, love.
On MDL, as everywhere else in the world, people like to judge and condemn others so they can feel better about themselves. They imagine THEY would never in a million years do such a thing. They are wrong.
Korn is one of my all-time favorite Thai BL characters. Strong and masculine, but also sweet, caring, and loving. These qualities are part of why what goes down late in this season is so compelling and controversial, like a good drama should be.
So BRAVO on the review. I'm going to change my rating to 10/10 just to counteract some of the irrational hate this show gets here.
First, when it comes to Korn saying 'it was just sex' . . . based on his personality I'd say he meant that he…
BRAVO. MDL is infested with self-righteous commenters who fantasize themselves as someone in a position to pass judgment on others. Condemning other people makes them feel better about themselves. And anything having to do with sex sets them on fire because most of them are also prudes.
I agree with every word you said above. That glass of wine helped ease the way into Pete's butt also, btw. lol
Just watched it and you know what, this is the first time when I was so sad and mad at the character I really…
"They say that first step is always the hardest one, and someone who cheated once will do it again. I'm sorry, but this is true. "
Who is "they?" How do you know "this is true?" I ask because it is NOT true.
According to statistics from studies done in the real world, 45%, or less than half, of partners who "cheat" (I dislike that word; it's a ridiculous and judgmental term), will do it again in another, later relationship with someone else. I couldn't find statistics on partners who cheat once doing it again within the same relationship in which they were caught.
If you think Korn is likely to repeat his behavior, after we all saw how utterly destroyed he was by what he'd done, even before Knock found out, you weren't paying attention. That man will never again have sex with anyone but Knock. He was about to confess to Knock of his own volition when the psycho, fake girlfriend came knocking to gleefully spread the news.
Try not judging other people with condemnatory, blanket labels.
It's the best of the three seasons. It features actual, real human failings, along with concepts a lot of self-righteous, fluff-loving, tender flowers here don't comprehend, like forgiveness, regret, and redemption. Conflict makes for great drama, and the second half of this show has a lot of it.
A fluffy/sad/happy story told many times before, but done so well and with such conviction that I am deeply moved by it. Who cries over a fluff-fest like this? ME.
A show can get away with murder when the actors at the story's heart are talented and have this level of chemistry. Consider me slain.
I rewatch this show about once a year and unlike a great many commenters here who come unglued about what a travesty episodes 7 & 8 represent, I feel exactly the opposite: Those eps and the ones that follow are likely the best work GMMTV has produced before or since.
We have beautiful, wonderful characters with a treasured love between them, who are put to the test in one of the most painful possible ways...and they ultimately rise above. There's not much else in the way of subject matter that makes for more intense and powerful drama than what we encounter in the latter half of TWM-TNC, and it's a glory to behold when compared to the vast majority of other BLs.
Fictional dramas, even BLs, don't exist to teach their audiences moral lessons. Those who seek moral instruction from BLs are seriously misguided, as are those who feel they have a right to nothing but rainbows and unicorns on fluffy clouds made of cotton candy in a BL. That said, perhaps the saddest thing regarding people who shriek the loudest about how they were betrayed somehow by this show, is that there is a HUGE, beautiful moral to this story: Forgiveness is as important as love, and NO ONE is without sin.
It's not a new moral, but it's one self-righteous, judgmental people have been missing for thousands of years, as they fall all over themselves and others to be the first to condemn a fellow human who has fallen from grace, however temporarily.
Korn is a beautiful character. This season of TWM is the best of the two.
If you liked this Drama who are your favorite characters and why?
Korn, by far. He is a big, physically imposing man with a heart bigger than his physique. His love for Knock is never in doubt. It is a fact of his existence. He is also flawed, like everybody else on Earth. But unlike most, Korn learns the hardest way possible just how flawed he is, and is immediately devastated by his actions.
Nevertheless, he quickly determines he MUST own up to what he's done and is just about to confess the worst to the person he loves most when Pete and Knock's psycho fake GF destroy his chance to do just that. Even after that and Knock's departure, he sucks it up, pulls it together and goes in pursuit of what he knows Knock wants as badly as he does: The two of them...Together Again.
There aren't many really good Thai BL actors. Max is one of them. His portrayal of Korn's nearly incapacitated emotional state after you-know-what left me a wreck. Korn's emotions are Max's emotions and they're very real, which is what makes him a great actor.
Dropping 25 minutes in. Absolutely terrible and embarrassing, from cheesy special effects, utterly predictable plotting, and bad acting from supporting cast to annoying characters like the spoiled/bitchy daughter, over-the-top stupid shit like not calling the cops the minute you see your new neighbor's house is full of mutilated animals, and on and on. Had I watched five more minutes, this list would be three times longer.
I like actor Bae Sung Woo a lot and he's done some great work. WTF was he thinking when he took this part?
I need to check out your lists. Pretty amazing we're in 70% agreement on our top10 without consulting as we put…
Part of my take on the ending is that there is a lot of work and "sorting out" to be done going forward, and they both know that. That ending did not have the vibe of "ok, well everything's fine now" at all. Oh Aew and Teh accept that they do and will always love each other and that love is worth fighting for, but love alone doesn't solve every problem.
I definitely felt that there is therapy in Teh's future if they are to survive as a couple. Oh-Aew needs it too, if only to strengthen himself for the possibility of one day having to let go of Teh completely despite loving him so intensely. Hell, maybe the fact that he "loves" someone whose neuroses have caused him such pain needs a look at too. He needs to understand that forgiving is something one does for oneself and doesn't necessarily include keeping the forgiven in one's life.
To me, their reconciliation feels more like a cease-fire with future negotiations ahead and a lot of work to be done. This is no fairy tale ending. I thought that much was obvious.
However, here on MDL, the judgmental, self-righteous, and vindictive ones among us are never satisfied until a transgressive character is drawn and quartered after being flogged in the town square. "Once a cheater, always a cheater" is a common sort of refrain here. That is simply not true of all those who stray. If it turns out to be true of Teh, then Oh Aew will have to be ready to do that letting go.
"Cheater" is only one of the thousands of things Teh is, and there is much good in him. I think his attraction to that unscrupulous teacher is a symptom of his tendency to always be looking for the greener grass beyond the fence. If he can come to understand that he has that tendency and WHY, there's no reason he can't evolve into a trustworthy romantic and life partner.
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"This makes me uncomfortable" is their rallying cry. Dramatic stories are SUPPOSED TO make you uncomfortable. They also think the audience immediately condones and imitates negative behavior just because they see it in a live-action show. These people are beyond lame.
Cheating happens.
So does forgiveness, regret and apology, redemption, and love, love, love.
On MDL, as everywhere else in the world, people like to judge and condemn others so they can feel better about themselves. They imagine THEY would never in a million years do such a thing. They are wrong.
Korn is one of my all-time favorite Thai BL characters. Strong and masculine, but also sweet, caring, and loving. These qualities are part of why what goes down late in this season is so compelling and controversial, like a good drama should be.
So BRAVO on the review. I'm going to change my rating to 10/10 just to counteract some of the irrational hate this show gets here.
I agree with every word you said above. That glass of wine helped ease the way into Pete's butt also, btw. lol
Who is "they?" How do you know "this is true?" I ask because it is NOT true.
According to statistics from studies done in the real world, 45%, or less than half, of partners who "cheat" (I dislike that word; it's a ridiculous and judgmental term), will do it again in another, later relationship with someone else. I couldn't find statistics on partners who cheat once doing it again within the same relationship in which they were caught.
If you think Korn is likely to repeat his behavior, after we all saw how utterly destroyed he was by what he'd done, even before Knock found out, you weren't paying attention. That man will never again have sex with anyone but Knock. He was about to confess to Knock of his own volition when the psycho, fake girlfriend came knocking to gleefully spread the news.
Try not judging other people with condemnatory, blanket labels.
A show can get away with murder when the actors at the story's heart are talented and have this level of chemistry. Consider me slain.
We have beautiful, wonderful characters with a treasured love between them, who are put to the test in one of the most painful possible ways...and they ultimately rise above. There's not much else in the way of subject matter that makes for more intense and powerful drama than what we encounter in the latter half of TWM-TNC, and it's a glory to behold when compared to the vast majority of other BLs.
Fictional dramas, even BLs, don't exist to teach their audiences moral lessons. Those who seek moral instruction from BLs are seriously misguided, as are those who feel they have a right to nothing but rainbows and unicorns on fluffy clouds made of cotton candy in a BL. That said, perhaps the saddest thing regarding people who shriek the loudest about how they were betrayed somehow by this show, is that there is a HUGE, beautiful moral to this story: Forgiveness is as important as love, and NO ONE is without sin.
It's not a new moral, but it's one self-righteous, judgmental people have been missing for thousands of years, as they fall all over themselves and others to be the first to condemn a fellow human who has fallen from grace, however temporarily.
Korn is a beautiful character. This season of TWM is the best of the two.
Nevertheless, he quickly determines he MUST own up to what he's done and is just about to confess the worst to the person he loves most when Pete and Knock's psycho fake GF destroy his chance to do just that. Even after that and Knock's departure, he sucks it up, pulls it together and goes in pursuit of what he knows Knock wants as badly as he does: The two of them...Together Again.
There aren't many really good Thai BL actors. Max is one of them. His portrayal of Korn's nearly incapacitated emotional state after you-know-what left me a wreck. Korn's emotions are Max's emotions and they're very real, which is what makes him a great actor.
I like actor Bae Sung Woo a lot and he's done some great work. WTF was he thinking when he took this part?
2/10
I definitely felt that there is therapy in Teh's future if they are to survive as a couple. Oh-Aew needs it too, if only to strengthen himself for the possibility of one day having to let go of Teh completely despite loving him so intensely. Hell, maybe the fact that he "loves" someone whose neuroses have caused him such pain needs a look at too. He needs to understand that forgiving is something one does for oneself and doesn't necessarily include keeping the forgiven in one's life.
To me, their reconciliation feels more like a cease-fire with future negotiations ahead and a lot of work to be done. This is no fairy tale ending. I thought that much was obvious.
However, here on MDL, the judgmental, self-righteous, and vindictive ones among us are never satisfied until a transgressive character is drawn and quartered after being flogged in the town square. "Once a cheater, always a cheater" is a common sort of refrain here. That is simply not true of all those who stray. If it turns out to be true of Teh, then Oh Aew will have to be ready to do that letting go.
"Cheater" is only one of the thousands of things Teh is, and there is much good in him. I think his attraction to that unscrupulous teacher is a symptom of his tendency to always be looking for the greener grass beyond the fence. If he can come to understand that he has that tendency and WHY, there's no reason he can't evolve into a trustworthy romantic and life partner.