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No, I mean, like, how do they do it? Where do they put it...you know without a hole there...?

How are all these men f**king this guy?
He has no ass.
He does have great legs though.

"The character is full of flaws, but that why was more realistic build.
Perfection does not exist."

I do not want a perfect character. I love imperfect, flawed, even twisted characters; but this one doesn't work for me. Like you, I am not able to find a way to empathize with his repeated turmoils and oblivious behavior. For instance, he has yet to notice there's a sharply defined pattern to these overnight marriages, I mean relationships of his. Maybe he's semi-autistic or something, though if so, it would be nice to be let in on that. Oh well, perhaps it will pop up down the line.

"I am not a sensible person..." I love your self-awareness. I'm ridiculous too.

After 5:

This has become for me, not a HATE-watch, but a MOCK-watch, as it is fun to make fun of upcoming plot twists as they are telegraphed ahead of time, take in all the cliches, tropes, stereotypes, and clunky direction, and gape in amazement how ALL the boys come to the MC's yard for his milkshake. :D

OK, THIS is the most absurd: The latest one is the THIRD hot guy to instantly fall groveling at the feet of our goofy-looking, neurotic MC. Spare me. Not plausible.
The MC does not date people; he MARRIES them on sight.
In a snap, rings, keys, and hearts are shared, and all is glorious and they can't stand being apart for a minute...like, overnight this happens. Because the lead is so hot or something.
I admire his sharing that one thing so soon, but then why did he not do the same with the other husbands?

Anyway, I could go on but I won't. On to ep. 6 and more yucks and mockery. Fun!

Stop-let me say it for you: "WHY DON'T YOU STOP WATCHING IF YOU HATE IT SO MUCH, THEN? QUIT SPOILING MY ENJOYMENT OF THIS FABULOUS MASTERPIECE!" I just explained why. And I don't want to.

And also, I have seen the word "masterpiece" tossed around this thread as per usual with MDL comment sections. lol It's all part of the entertainment. But remember: Plenty of people in the comment section of the juvenile/horrible BL, Bad Buddy, claim it as a "masterpiece!' too. That word means nothing here.

thanks

two more tonight, at least.

I have watched 1-4

Members Maggi64 and Honglou Meng are the two members I chat with a lot. In both cases, their writing, intelligence, and discernment put my feeble efforts to shame. :D

Thank you so much for the kind words about my writing. Appreciated. you know, I have never written an official review in that it was intended to be placed in the reviews section. I'm too obnoxious for that.

I like to put my views in comments where I'm sure they will annoy the greatest possible number of people. hahahhahahaha...sometimes I post a comment saying "review beneath spoiler button below" and then plant it there.

Maybe I'll just make the review out of portions of my earlier comments, copy/paste. :P

Oh, I think the production as a whole, ie. acting (directing sucks)/production values/lighting/music/plenty of extras to make the nightclub and other public spaces realistic/etc. is great; that's a big part of why I'm still watching. But as I've said, the plot and execution are lame in my view. Absolutely "redeemable."

I'm taking it just two eps at a time so far, through ep. 4. That's when it grows tiresome to me. However, I'm open to bingeing the rest of the damn thing if it takes a turn for the better. To say it is "not my cup of tea" is inaccurate.

Which leads me to a significant problem in MDL comment threads: There often seems to be a black/white perspective on shows here. If you like it, you're supposed to LOOOOOOOOOOOVE it and post lots of worshipful remarks. If you like it enough to keep watching, but see major problems, you're expected to not post "negative" (anything but worshipful) comments, STFU in general, or drop the show.

The thread is supposed to be one long stream of fawning comments because a vast swath of immature MDLers consider coming across a negative remark, especially one stated aggressively, as interfering with their "enjoyment" of the show. Defensive/immature in the extreme.

Which is ridiculous of course. If one loves it so much, why would a small minority of comments pointing out deficiencies one doesn't see, in any way disturb one's rapturous viewing experience? Or there's always the option to skip over comments if you see a screen name you despise. Lots of masochists here.

"Bitter, angry, overly emotional, rude, psychotic, who hurt you?, you have no life, touch grass, etc." I get a lot of all of those. lol. Cuts no ice with me.

For the record, I have mentioned aspects of the series I admire, like the overall quality of acting. I just don't like much of what they're made to act out. Critiquing a show assertively, but still finding enough in it to keep one watching, has taught me over time how to watch live-action fiction with a great deal more acuity than I used to. I catch tons more details than i used to. Much of that is due to two great MDL friends I DM with frequently here. Thanks to the friends! :D This carries over into all genres of films and dramas I watch.

It seems sad to watch shows with either blinders or a microscope, as though there are no categories of perspective in-between.

And I would consider allowing you to do so.

I just answered this comment as you were writing it, above.

Stop lecturing. I am fully aware of the cultural/political effects of this show's AIRING in East Asia. It's no wonder your views on what's IN the show are unreliable. You can't tell the difference between its story and its cultural significance..

"Ethnocentric" Seriously, f**k off.

The fact of this series airing in East Asia with a known male star playing a gay role with smooching is what's "new." What is IN the series, the lives, activities, loves, drinking, sex, and all the rest is what "happens all over the world," every moment of every day.

It seems you have confused the groundbreaking newness of this material airing in East Asia with the common human experiences of the characters in the show, none of which are "new." What's new is most East Asians seeing this, not what they're seeing. Do you understand?

Perhaps you are too emotionally/personally invested in this drama as part of your cultural/political agenda to have any kind of subjective perspective on the quality of the production itself, ie. direction/acting/production. While most of us are actually WATCHING/ABSORBING the story, you're off in the corner running around in circles with your hair on fire screaming "A GAY SERIES WITH KISSING IS AIRING IN EAST ASIA!"

Sit down and watch the damn show.

lol

Kiss, not bite. :D

So glad you found this one, B. I think you will enjoy it.

YES! Love the Autism Spectrum theory! lol In messages to a friend here I said that Nam went from being a confident, aggressive, stern professional when they met at the shoot and MC was late, to being apparently, cognitively disabled, and the personality switch took place in a flash. Like most important elements of this plot, we saw no transition, no development, just the result.

The writers want me to believe the MC is so handsome, tall, and magnificent, and projects a mesmerizing aura of splendiferous glory, such that even the most beautiful and self-assured of men turn to jelly at the sight of him.

I do not believe what they want me to believe. :)

Yes, being loved by someone who'd take a bullet for you is great as long as they'd do it from a place of strong, confident self-respect rather than because they feel that without you they are nothing at all. How awful would it be to be in relationship with a non-entity who grovels at your feet all the time; who watched your every move for signs of waning affection? Pretty awful.

Maybe because he earlier went through the same thing with the photographer? So you're saying MC has no self-control and seeks out unhealthy partners for relationships?

Yes, I'd agree with that. It's one of the many reasons I find it hard to care about his character. At his core, he's self-destructive and repeats the same behaviors over and over. This is made acutely clear in his reaction at home to what took place at the restaurant. It is interesting to observe the MC's actions but difficult to sympathize with him.

But even if his character was lovable to me, I'd still be struggling with the manner in which the plot is being revealed overall.

There is nothing in this film that doesn't happen all over the world. There are no "new" stories, they've all been told. What matters is HOW they're told and that's where this show falls short for me.

"complaining..." lol

"Blah blah..." Incisive.
Bite me.