First, a comment: They are not a "BL (BOYS love)" couple, they are an adult GAY couple. Second, a question: Is this a serious question? Third, another question: Why do you ask? What influence do you see the answer as having on the film as a whole? What would knowing who was top/bottom help you understand about the film's "complications?" Fourth, another comment: The answer to your question, if the activities of one scene are to be assumed to be representative of ALL their sexual interactions, is right there in the film.
I am willing to bet that if an accurate poll of the Korean public were taken, not just insane Netizens and self-righteous, Puritanical, psycho-fans, but normal, movie-going folks, you'd find that most KOREANS are sick and tired of being treated like children when this stupid shit comes up, who can't survive watching a film starring someone who has a drug problem in their personal life, or who dated someone, or who had an affair.
Korea, and in this case, Netflix, are bowing down to a tiny minority of the Korean populace and it's sickening. Korean online weirdos, magnified by the mainstream press, are what drive this shit and make it seem much more of an issue than it is.
As an American, and Netflix being an American company that financed and will distribute it worldwide, I am pissed that Netflix ALLOWED this guy to edit the film AT ALL, caving to the sickness of Korean Celeb Suicide Culture.
Refuse to believe what happened!I insist there was something darker involving a lot of levels in the entertainment,police…
I don't believe anything I read in the Korean press, even from so-called mainstream sources, who also ran with the BS that killed LSK. I haven't checked lately; is she being prosecuted for the blackmail and drugs?
Totally agree. A huge percentage of the MDL commentariat is extremely judgmental, self-righteous, and unforgiving,…
Well...it's true that in keeping with the "stupidity" of your comments, it's probably best you don't attempt to read more than two or three sentences at a time. Any more is likely to break your tiny mind.
I can't even begin to deal with LSK having been claimed by the Great Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine. He left not quite four months ago, but oddly, it seems like it was much longer ago than that.
I wonder who the GKCS will grind to shreds next. It's doing its best to take out Yoo Ah In, but he seems to be hanging in there. He had better do so; if he were to take LSK's route, I think I'd lose my shit completely. I'm happy that Netflix is blowing off Korea's psycho-punitive culture and releasing "Goodbye Earth" here soon. Korea is a teeny portion of Netflix's global audience. I'm annoyed NF delayed GE's release and that they've done some pre-release "editing" to assuage the vicious Netizens.
It will be impossible to watch "Sleep" or critique it with any kind of objectivity. I recently watched "My Mister" for the first time, and about a third of the time he was on screen, I was distracted by thoughts of his absence and how he left.
Unknown became one of my favorite BLs very quickly. It touches all the emotions seeing a kid raising 2 kids ...and…
LOTS of MDLers talk about turning off their brains to enjoy shows like this. I apologize for attributing that to you, as that's not really what you said.
There ARE several very good BLs from Thailand but they were all made in 2020 or earlier.
Please consider not concerning yourself with whether or not you're "offending anybody" with your comments. Lots of MDLers also live for the opportunity to be offended. Just say what you think and don't apologize for it.
news writers such as lo_ve prefer scandalous koreaboo type of articles instead of reporting on real news unfortunately
Wow, you're a font of nastiness. Just the type who would aggressively defend their right to drive celebrities to despair and suicide with lies, innuendo, rumors, self-righteous judgementalism, and the viciousness born of envy we see every day on the Internet.
I get this hatred of the U.S. frequently here on MDL. It cuts no ice with me. I was born here, I didn't build the culture and government with my own two hands. There is much about my country I despise and trash daily in social media discussions.
But guess what? We're specifically talking about KOREA's bizarre, acid-toxic Celebrity Suicide Machine here, not whether or not you like Taylor Swift or Donald Trump. That machine operates with incredible efficiency, like no other in the world, putting dozens of good, talented people in early graves via suicide with shocking frequency.
Moreover, Korea as a whole has the highest suicide rate in the entire developed world, more than TWICE that of the U.S. If you don't think that's worthy of discussion, or that I don't get to take part in that chat until everything fucked up in the U.S. is fixed, then it's helpful that I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
All my fave films and series are Korean. I am a fan of a few K-Pop acts because much of its musical output touches me or makes me want to shake my booty. Thus, of course, I'm interested in why several artists whose careers I followed killed themselves, most lately LSK, arguably the best actor in Korea.
That you don't like my participation in the discourse regarding Korea's hateful fan culture and the suicide machine is of absolutely zero interest to me. You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what someone like you thinks.
We don't do that bullshit in the U.S. Entertainers who fuck up are always given a second, third, and fourth chance to start over. But most importantly, we don't viciously obsess over 20-year-old allegations of high school bullying and demand the accused be canceled.
So, be proud of your status as a cog in the Suicide Machine, potty mouth. I won't be a part of it.
"Even a broken watch is right twice a day" :)I don't think IU is great actress (btw, I didn't know her before…
Well, I'd argue that even a depressed, miserable person shows their thought processes taking place, even if just in their eyes. As to your assertion about her "expressive" eyes, I found them dull and expression-LESS. Guess we'll just have to disagree.
I will say that her performance in the last two episodes was quite good. Her speech to the board of directors about LSK, and the scene in which she went to identify Grandma's body, wrecked me.
Unknown became one of my favorite BLs very quickly. It touches all the emotions seeing a kid raising 2 kids ...and…
I deliberately did not insult anyone else for enjoying and watching this show and others like the ones you mentioned. I am not capable of turning off my brain, even when watching something "just for pure entertainment."
No one watches anything with their brains turned off. That assertion, a common one here on MDL, is silly. You are ALWAYS using your brain to process what you're watching; otherwise how would you be "entertained?" I love well-made comedies and slapstick and goofiness. Deep Night is not those things. There are a gazillion well-made films of that type on the Internet that do not insult my intelligence or cause my eyeballs to roll out of their sockets. With all those options out there, why would I waste my time on something like this?
Also, the more depth of understanding we get regarding each character, the more entertaining it is to see those characters interact as the series progresses. Thai BLs such as this one deal with TYPES, not individual characters, and it's lame.
The beginning of this show, with the BMOC strutting across campus as all the dumb girls squeal with wild abandon at his supposed physical perfection and glittering charisma, is something I've seen dozens of times before in earlier, much better Thai BLs.
The people who write and produce this kind of schlock, shamelessly regurgitating plots and people as though we have no memory of what we've seen before, are lazy, uninterested, and devoid of original thoughts. I don't support shows made by such hacks. Why would anyone?
There are hundreds of thousands of great, light-hearted, well-made movies and dramas on the Internet. I'm not so desperate to see gay men in BL situations that I'd lower myself to the level of Deep Night to get a fix. I prefer to wait for the few, much better quality, BLs out of Taiwan, Japan, and Korea, that are worth my time.
However, as I said, please do watch and enjoy this show. I won't try to stop you. :)
Dear god, no, not in a million years. Another TOOT!
Dropping 2/3 through the first episode because this Engineering Faculty/Host Club/Cirque du Soleil mish-mash abortion is not for me.
Just today, I finished watching the nearly-flawless, 10/10 Taiwanese BL "Unknown." It is an abomination that it and this cringe-fest will forever be categorized as of the same genre. It's like labeling double-chocolate silk ice cream and a bowl of s**t both as "brown stuff."
The amount of $$$ that goes into making these high-end, god-awful Thai BLs is depressing. It's shocking to think this stuff comes out of the same country that once made series like ITSAY/IPYTM, Love Sick, Make It Right, Together With Me and the like. The latter three had much smaller budgets, but schlock-free stories and great big hearts.
Given Yuki's lack of presence, nervousness, and bland affect in that audition, there is no way in hell he would have been cast as a walk-by extra in a high school play, let alone a co-lead in a major BL drama production. Give me a break.
Meanwhile, the big star of the BL looks to be at death's door by starvation, with the limp, oily, blah-blond hair that many Japanese seem to think is attractive.
Teetering on the edge of a drop, but willing to give it at least one more episode as I pray for some Japanese weirdness to liven things up.
First of all, FF is a talented actor, with charisma, screen presence, and beauty.
Second of all, this film is absolutely terrible. I watched to the end just so I could continue to enjoy looking at Fandy, but I broke down and began skipping ahead toward the end, even so. If there is a coherent, overarching, connected storyline of some interest here, I don't know what it is. If the same actors hadn't kept showing up again and again, I doubt I'd have known most of the scenes were connected. A rando sense of disconnectedness is my main take. Perhaps that was intentional in some artsy-fartsy way, but if so I still don't care.
FF is tragically underrated and underused. I hate to see what should be his most productive years passing by with nothing much coming of them. He should learn Korean and head over there where they're making great films and he'd fit right in.
His best work remains the 2018 BL, History 2: Crossing the Line.
If all you want is to look at FF, watch this. If not, skip it.
My goodness. I sniffled through all three final episodes.
Top-notch BL drama-making; the kind of show that proves the genre does NOT require one to settle for fourth or fifth-rate standards of production in any category.
Superb: Acting Direction Lighting/cinematography Sets/set dressing Music Did I mention ACTING? I was deeply moved or made to laugh over and over by the UNDER-acting of the ensemble. No overly dramatic histrionics or shouting to make up for lack of talent; everything so understated and lovely.
The BLs that have moved me most deeply have one thing above all else in common: Moments in which the primary characters are together, perhaps saying nothing or very little, and yet I well up in tears simply because I am filled to overflowing with FEELS which have been created by all the hundreds of perfect moments depicted prior to that point in the show. That happened a good 20 times during this series.
Such is this series' perfection that I forgive the Tiger/Lamb/Top/Bottom silliness near the end. Partly because it seems clear to me that this couple does not hold to such lame categorizations. Let the topping AND the bottoming be as fluid as their love.
My love for this series derives in part from its courage in confronting the main issue concerning the MC and knocking it aside. Well-done.
Unknown goes straight to #2 on my Top 30 Best BLs list, just below "Blueming," and perhaps one day it will move up that one space.
I actually find myself quite aghast that you continue to push this whole prostitution narrative, when it is obviously…
One of the biggest tells about your verbose, neurotic, and seemingly uncontrollable need to embellish your writing, is the frequent inclusion of unnecessary details such as the Lain root of the word "prostitution, prositutio. lol
Your inclusion of that detail does nothing to deepen the reader's understanding of what prostitution IS. It's there to impress us with your vast store of factoids, while telling us nothing more about prostitution than we already know. In fact, I'd argue your inclusion of such bombastic silliness is intended to obscure, rather than highlight, what constitutes prostitution.
In Nutcase City, where your expansive manse stands in the neighborhood of Bloviation, contact-free flirtation, unprotected anal sex, and all acts between, are the same. Having a conversation in exchange for beverages, something tens of millions of people do every single night around the world, is the same activity as giving an under-the-table blowjob in return for money.
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Second, a question: Is this a serious question?
Third, another question: Why do you ask? What influence do you see the answer as having on the film as a whole? What would knowing who was top/bottom help you understand about the film's "complications?"
Fourth, another comment: The answer to your question, if the activities of one scene are to be assumed to be representative of ALL their sexual interactions, is right there in the film.
Korea, and in this case, Netflix, are bowing down to a tiny minority of the Korean populace and it's sickening. Korean online weirdos, magnified by the mainstream press, are what drive this shit and make it seem much more of an issue than it is.
As an American, and Netflix being an American company that financed and will distribute it worldwide, I am pissed that Netflix ALLOWED this guy to edit the film AT ALL, caving to the sickness of Korean Celeb Suicide Culture.
Hang in there Yoo, come to America!!!
I wonder who the GKCS will grind to shreds next. It's doing its best to take out Yoo Ah In, but he seems to be hanging in there. He had better do so; if he were to take LSK's route, I think I'd lose my shit completely. I'm happy that Netflix is blowing off Korea's psycho-punitive culture and releasing "Goodbye Earth" here soon. Korea is a teeny portion of Netflix's global audience. I'm annoyed NF delayed GE's release and that they've done some pre-release "editing" to assuage the vicious Netizens.
It will be impossible to watch "Sleep" or critique it with any kind of objectivity. I recently watched "My Mister" for the first time, and about a third of the time he was on screen, I was distracted by thoughts of his absence and how he left.
There ARE several very good BLs from Thailand but they were all made in 2020 or earlier.
Please consider not concerning yourself with whether or not you're "offending anybody" with your comments. Lots of MDLers also live for the opportunity to be offended. Just say what you think and don't apologize for it.
I get this hatred of the U.S. frequently here on MDL. It cuts no ice with me. I was born here, I didn't build the culture and government with my own two hands. There is much about my country I despise and trash daily in social media discussions.
But guess what? We're specifically talking about KOREA's bizarre, acid-toxic Celebrity Suicide Machine here, not whether or not you like Taylor Swift or Donald Trump. That machine operates with incredible efficiency, like no other in the world, putting dozens of good, talented people in early graves via suicide with shocking frequency.
Moreover, Korea as a whole has the highest suicide rate in the entire developed world, more than TWICE that of the U.S. If you don't think that's worthy of discussion, or that I don't get to take part in that chat until everything fucked up in the U.S. is fixed, then it's helpful that I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
All my fave films and series are Korean. I am a fan of a few K-Pop acts because much of its musical output touches me or makes me want to shake my booty. Thus, of course, I'm interested in why several artists whose careers I followed killed themselves, most lately LSK, arguably the best actor in Korea.
That you don't like my participation in the discourse regarding Korea's hateful fan culture and the suicide machine is of absolutely zero interest to me. You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what someone like you thinks.
We don't do that bullshit in the U.S. Entertainers who fuck up are always given a second, third, and fourth chance to start over. But most importantly, we don't viciously obsess over 20-year-old allegations of high school bullying and demand the accused be canceled.
So, be proud of your status as a cog in the Suicide Machine, potty mouth. I won't be a part of it.
I will say that her performance in the last two episodes was quite good. Her speech to the board of directors about LSK, and the scene in which she went to identify Grandma's body, wrecked me.
No one watches anything with their brains turned off. That assertion, a common one here on MDL, is silly. You are ALWAYS using your brain to process what you're watching; otherwise how would you be "entertained?" I love well-made comedies and slapstick and goofiness. Deep Night is not those things. There are a gazillion well-made films of that type on the Internet that do not insult my intelligence or cause my eyeballs to roll out of their sockets. With all those options out there, why would I waste my time on something like this?
Also, the more depth of understanding we get regarding each character, the more entertaining it is to see those characters interact as the series progresses. Thai BLs such as this one deal with TYPES, not individual characters, and it's lame.
The beginning of this show, with the BMOC strutting across campus as all the dumb girls squeal with wild abandon at his supposed physical perfection and glittering charisma, is something I've seen dozens of times before in earlier, much better Thai BLs.
The people who write and produce this kind of schlock, shamelessly regurgitating plots and people as though we have no memory of what we've seen before, are lazy, uninterested, and devoid of original thoughts. I don't support shows made by such hacks. Why would anyone?
There are hundreds of thousands of great, light-hearted, well-made movies and dramas on the Internet. I'm not so desperate to see gay men in BL situations that I'd lower myself to the level of Deep Night to get a fix. I prefer to wait for the few, much better quality, BLs out of Taiwan, Japan, and Korea, that are worth my time.
However, as I said, please do watch and enjoy this show. I won't try to stop you. :)
Dropping 2/3 through the first episode because this Engineering Faculty/Host Club/Cirque du Soleil mish-mash abortion is not for me.
Just today, I finished watching the nearly-flawless, 10/10 Taiwanese BL "Unknown." It is an abomination that it and this cringe-fest will forever be categorized as of the same genre. It's like labeling double-chocolate silk ice cream and a bowl of s**t both as "brown stuff."
The amount of $$$ that goes into making these high-end, god-awful Thai BLs is depressing.
It's shocking to think this stuff comes out of the same country that once made series like ITSAY/IPYTM, Love Sick, Make It Right, Together With Me and the like. The latter three had much smaller budgets, but schlock-free stories and great big hearts.
Dropped. 1/10
Maybe you should try a throuple with two people you're not interested in romantically. Then you might actually know what you're talking about.
Given Yuki's lack of presence, nervousness, and bland affect in that audition, there is no way in hell he would have been cast as a walk-by extra in a high school play, let alone a co-lead in a major BL drama production. Give me a break.
Meanwhile, the big star of the BL looks to be at death's door by starvation, with the limp, oily, blah-blond hair that many Japanese seem to think is attractive.
Teetering on the edge of a drop, but willing to give it at least one more episode as I pray for some Japanese weirdness to liven things up.
Second of all, this film is absolutely terrible. I watched to the end just so I could continue to enjoy looking at Fandy, but I broke down and began skipping ahead toward the end, even so. If there is a coherent, overarching, connected storyline of some interest here, I don't know what it is. If the same actors hadn't kept showing up again and again, I doubt I'd have known most of the scenes were connected. A rando sense of disconnectedness is my main take. Perhaps that was intentional in some artsy-fartsy way, but if so I still don't care.
FF is tragically underrated and underused. I hate to see what should be his most productive years passing by with nothing much coming of them. He should learn Korean and head over there where they're making great films and he'd fit right in.
His best work remains the 2018 BL, History 2: Crossing the Line.
If all you want is to look at FF, watch this. If not, skip it.
5/10 All 5 points are for FF.
Top-notch BL drama-making; the kind of show that proves the genre does NOT require one to settle for fourth or fifth-rate standards of production in any category.
Superb:
Acting
Direction
Lighting/cinematography
Sets/set dressing
Music
Did I mention ACTING? I was deeply moved or made to laugh over and over by the UNDER-acting of the ensemble. No overly dramatic histrionics or shouting to make up for lack of talent; everything so understated and lovely.
The BLs that have moved me most deeply have one thing above all else in common: Moments in which the primary characters are together, perhaps saying nothing or very little, and yet I well up in tears simply because I am filled to overflowing with FEELS which have been created by all the hundreds of perfect moments depicted prior to that point in the show. That happened a good 20 times during this series.
Such is this series' perfection that I forgive the Tiger/Lamb/Top/Bottom silliness near the end. Partly because it seems clear to me that this couple does not hold to such lame categorizations. Let the topping AND the bottoming be as fluid as their love.
My love for this series derives in part from its courage in confronting the main issue concerning the MC and knocking it aside. Well-done.
Unknown goes straight to #2 on my Top 30 Best BLs list, just below "Blueming," and perhaps one day it will move up that one space.
BRAVO
10/10
Your inclusion of that detail does nothing to deepen the reader's understanding of what prostitution IS. It's there to impress us with your vast store of factoids, while telling us nothing more about prostitution than we already know. In fact, I'd argue your inclusion of such bombastic silliness is intended to obscure, rather than highlight, what constitutes prostitution.
In Nutcase City, where your expansive manse stands in the neighborhood of Bloviation, contact-free flirtation, unprotected anal sex, and all acts between, are the same. Having a conversation in exchange for beverages, something tens of millions of people do every single night around the world, is the same activity as giving an under-the-table blowjob in return for money.
omg...hahaha
Keep it up, Ariel-Head. You're a hoot.