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Here we go with the usual "why are so heated up, it's not that deep, lighten up a little, why are you bitter, blah blah blah" bullshit. This is the common tactic of attributing an opinion you don't like to irrational emotion. Cuts no ice with me. I'm not "heated." That would be YOU, in your bitter defense of calling this thing a masterpiece.

Why are you so willfully delusional? There is NO BL that I call a masterpiece because a BL masterpiece has not yet been made. The tropes, conventions, cliches, low budgets, etc. make the existence of a BL "masterpiece" nigh impossible.

That's why I don't throw the term around like it means next to nothing, as do you.

Are you saying because tastes and opinions differ and we all perceive things differently, there are no such thing as levels of "quality," from excellent to shitty? Because someone will always claim the shitty stuff is a "masterpiece," right? So what's the point of comment sections?

We all have our set opinions so what's to discuss, right? Spare me.

lol Pathetic, "GIRL."
Calling a marginal series a "masterpiece" doesn't make it one, even if you say it twice in one sentence. Quit lurking here.

This is the first show of any kind I've seen LDQ in so who knows, maybe after I've seen more of him I will become a fan. But yeah, his acting isn't doing it for me here, especially as he is up against the remarkably naturalistic, charismatic, and centered work that Benjamin is doing here. Tian feels REAL to me. When I watch Wang I see the actor acting, not the character.

I'm just the opposite of you: Almost 5 years ago I stumbled across BL World and all the first ones I watched were Thai, the classics that had already aired in their entirety and I could binge. It's been over time that I found Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese BLs, thank goodness. I rarely watch a Thai BL anymore...they're so lame and repetitious. Last one I liked all the way through was Midnight Chicken.

I immensely dislike portraying a character by resorting to cliche faces and actions so everyone will recognize the "type" you are and what they expect. Very boring. To me, it's lazy and lame.

But that's me. I don't lower my standards for BLs a whole lot from what I expect of feature films and straight dramas. Which is why I like relatively few of them and almost NONE of them out of Thailand. All they DO is "types."

What is your definition of "masterpiece?" I ask because the actual definition does not fit this show; not even close. :)

Tian Yang could be bi for Pepper and Shi Yu both. :) I'd like to see the Tian Yang actor in a lead role.

Great movie! I will need to watch a second time at least, but that is true of all the best films, especially this kind of corporate/computer intrigue stuff.

Son Suk Ku is as good an actor as he is good-looking, and every inch the leading man. Kim Dong Hwi and Hong Kyung are excellent as well. Nice to see both of them growing their career. Hong Kyung initially impressed me in the drama Weak Hero Class 1. I found his character off-putting, but after seeing him in two more shows, it was clear he was off-putting because that's how he chose and was directed to play the character. He is a talented actor.

9/10

Spoiler button please.

That was my thought too when I saw the end of 11. However, the setup and execution of the scene was done so well, I hated to be my usual, picky self about it. But you're right, a cig just bouncing on and then off again wouldn't leave a scar. It might not even leave a burn.

But adding or changing a character into someone capable of holding a lit cigarette to the skin of a small child would require a hell of a background story change...and now that we've got all of ONE episode to resolve all this shit, that's not gonna happen.

This will have some absurd cliffhanger.

"... this masterpiece..."

lol Oh look, another MDLer throwing around the word "masterpiece" like it's the word "the." What a surprise! :)

Ich wünschte, die Show hätte genug Zeit, um diese beiden als Paar zu begleiten. :P

I get it, you're a Wang/Lu Dong Qin fan.
I didn't realize he is supposedly 16 in this show. I thought he was 18 and that I can believe, but 16? No. Which is precisely the problem with his acting. He is TRYING to look and act like he imagines a 16-year-old does and it's not working. Contrary to your words, 16 is NOT a "baby," yet "baby" is a good description of the faces he makes.

A better actor would let us see him BEING 16, not ACTING like he thinks 16-year-old babies act instead.

I find Benjamin entirely convincing as a high schooler; LDQ not so much.
What I don't get is why the director felt he couldn't use younger actors. There are 18-year-olds who can act very well.

Perhaps you should take OFF your "I love Lu Dong Qin" glasses so you can see what's really on the screen.

I don't mind unhappy endings, if they're earned, make sense, and aren't there to satisfy "gay people can't be happy" trope.

Really lame if it ends on a cliffhanger, with no guarantee of a S2.

Put this under a spoiler, Amigo. Jesus.

Who's "he?"

Should have been 8.

Wang is handsome, but I find him to be a boring, one-note actor. He has three facial expressions, all centered on the mouth: frowny-mouth (lips downward), pouty-mouth (bottom lip protudes), and innocent-mouth (both lips pulled inward, no lip showing).

I find Tian to be a far superior actor to Wang. But yeah, he's pretty to look at.

Newsflash: Not everyone watches trailers. They are often rife with spoilers.
What is implausible about how Tian got the scar? Too quick?

Episode 11:

Soooooooooooooooooooooooo much filler...
The show-makers should have cut filler and made eight drama-packed, fascinating, briskly-paced episodes instead of 12. I like this show in general, but there are long stretches of slow f**king nothingness.

If Wang's wallet is so important to him, why did he look for it for all of two seconds, and then head for the showers? Answer: So that Benjamin could play out the 74th scene showing Tian going out of his way to be Wang's Knight in Shining Armor. Yes we know: TIAN CARES ABOUT WANG & WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM ALWAYS. We get it. We've seen this 73 times before.
How did said wallet get from Wang's pocket while playing badminton on the court into the bottom of a trash can on the side of the court?
All of this type of thing could have been fixed with some more time in the writers' room or better yet, cut altogether.

Love all the students using the presence of an alleged "ghost" to indulge their gay and Lesbian desires to sleep together. :)
Anyone else shipping Tian Yang and his bunkmate? (I can't figure out from the cast list which character that is.)
As dumb as this story has gotten, I still like watching Benjamin-as-Tian doing his observing/silent hero schtick.
Little Pepper is a doll. And a good actor.

Lord, the whole locked-in-the-gym-with-no-phone-signal thing...give me a break. lol Since the Thai script-writing team took over, there have been loads of absurd plot cliches like this.
How did the gay teachers know where to look and how did they open the padlock the evil brainiac student had used to lock Tian and Wang in the gym?

Also, I love when BL people say things like "I will go find them!" when they have absolutely no idea where to search. Also loved how the teachers dumped the grill and left all the food laying out in their haste to play white knight to the great mystery of "Tian and Wang are missing!" Surely by now one of the students would simply say "Guys, we all know they've been hot for each other for months. They are somewhere making out. No need to panic."

Holy shit. That final scene is one of the best-written/acted/directed, most intense scenes I've seen in a BL. My goodness. The cigarette thing was brilliant. Major angst.

Tian's dad is mega-hot.

Oh, you're right! Good for him. OK, that's ONE...

TCMDOC is a great flick. It almost, but not quite, made my top 30 list.