I'm reading all the positive comments and i wanna watch but the premise is quite irky, does this give off pedo…
Dear god, again with the ignorant, MDL "pedo" bullshit.
Since you obviously don't care to do so yourself, I'll educate you: "Pedophilia" is very specifically defined as involving an adult and a PRE-PUBESCENT CHILD. If you don't know what "pre-pubescent" means, look it up. I like to define it as "pre-pubes" to make it easy for people like you to understand.
Does the high school student in this show look like he does or does not have pubes? Answer: He does. Therefore, this is in no way, shape, or form a show involving pedophilia.
Total gay-bait, homo-hating, censored Chinese romance bullshit. The people who eat this up have serious internalized homophobia issues.
Overall message of this series: Gay relationships are so revolting, sick, perverse, immoral, and contrary to healthy cultural norms that the best we can show here is two best friends who act kind of gay once in a while, but without ever, in any way, credibly displaying gay affection.
Wasn‘t he killed in prison as ordered by the father of one of the guys he killed?
Was this right near the end? Oh well, even so, it would be easy to write in a reason why the counselor survives a prison stay. Maybe he comes out with a limp from a failed assault. Who knows? :D Would be a great sequel.
Wow. This thing is a riot! It left me amused, entertained, and seriously turned on.
It works magnificently as a parody of: Japanese politics Samurai/death cult/macho/hara kiri/bullshit Gay pornography Gay romance Group-think and much more...
This was made in Korea, not China, and at the time it was made, there had already been a number of feature films…
BUT IT HAS TEN BILLION VIEWS FROM CHINA, AND THOSE ARE ALL CLOSETED, GAY, CHINESE VIEWERS WHO CAUGHT ALL THE OBVIOUS, HOT GAY CODING AND ROMANCE AND THUS TUNED IN MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!!!!! :D
This was made in Korea, not China, and at the time it was made, there had already been a number of feature films…
1. So pathetic you consider three and a half short paragraphs to be more than you can bear to read. No wonder you're so dim-witted.
2. Adding "literally" to your statements doesn't make them stronger, it just makes you sound stupid. Is there a way to be "non-literally gay?"
3. Lots of gay people suffer from internalized homophobia. YOUR internalized homophobia explains why you find watching gay-censored programming fulfilling.
4. Your disinterest in reading more than a sentence or two likely explains your ignorance.
What am I saying? I'm sure you can't bear to read past the word "So..." above in this comment.
This was made in Korea, not China, and at the time it was made, there had already been a number of feature films…
Typical response of a homophobic fangirl like you, who thinks high viewership = quality. What's even sicker is that ALL of those ten billion views came from inside China, where stupid straight people who don't know what they're watching, and self-hating gays, desperate for ANYTHING that even hints at being gay, watched this nightgowns and sword fights joke of a show.
Why any healthy gay person would watch a live-action show in which the plot tells them over and over that gay love/affection/sex is SO incredibly nasty, gross, and immoral, that it can't be shown on the screen even when that love is the heart of the story. Imagine a relationship in the real world, gay, straight or otherwise, in which the partners never hug, kiss, or make love and then tell me you'd see that as healthy and fulfilling. If you say you would, you're lying.
And yet that is what The Untamed dishes up over, and over, and over. It would be interesting to know how many views this thing would have garnered if gay love wasn't censored out of everything in China. If Chinese people could watch depictions of steamy, real gay love, would they watch this trash? There's no way to know but I'm hoping not.
Where do YOU live, btw? Thankfully, I live in the U.S., where anything goes onscreen, and we like it that way.
Wow. That's some nihilistic shit, right there. Extremely well-done nihilistic shit. I had no stomach for Hollywood films this violent, but the Koreans do something entirely different with the genre and it has made me a fan of these Yakuza/murder/thugs/gangs/crooked cops type movies. Not entirely how to sum it up, but I think it's in the characterizations overall. I find something to like in even the most loathsome characters and that makes me give a shit about what's happening to them, even when they get what they deserve, a few bullets to the brain or a knife to the gut. Oh, and usually, the fight scenes, car chase scenes, and otherwise bloody violence is incredibly choreographed to look absolutely real. Not currently familiar with the work of Uhm Tae Goo, but I am going to make myself so. He was outstanding here. That raspy voice alone is incredibly sexy and interesting. Funny...he looks like a boy scout in his bio pic above. Cha Sueng Won and Park Ho San are sensational, as always. Both excel at bringing nuances and specifics of character to their roles. I have yet to feel like either is repeating a character, and I've seen both in a lot of films.
For its genre, this is a 9/10 for me. Highly recommended.
This was made in Korea, not China, and at the time it was made, there had already been a number of feature films…
Well, your silly, little fangirl opinion is also garbage, and far stinkier than mine.
"The show's romance was very realistic to its intended era." The only romance in "The Untamed" exist in your imagination, fueled by your pathetic willingness to interpret raised eyebrows and longing glances as indicative of a relationship the Chinese cannot and do not, portray in their programming. Are you saying ancient, gay love affairs were conducted as in TU, without verbal or physical expressions of affection?
Why anyone who cares about gay people would watch such twisted, censored, shame-filled representations of LGBTQ, emotional, romantic relationships, is beyond me. We do a lot more than stare at each other endlessly, while occasionally falling into a "sort-of" embrace, what I call a "slip-catch-fall," also typical of Thai BLs. We don't fly around in the air in silk dresses, saving each other from evil swordsmen either. Or did you not know that?
Marvelous, quiet, calm, and deeply moving. The only thing more beautiful than the ambiance of this film is the acting and chemistry of the two leads. Both are sensational in their roles, but it's Taniguchi Masashi as Togawa who impresses me most.
This was my third watch, and every time it gets better. There aren't many movies, of any budget level, I'd say that about.
Damn, I was rooting for SJS's character all the way. SJS has evolved into an extremely effective and charismatic actor. I totally believed every version of the MC as he revealed them to us, from goodhearted, slow-witted victim to brilliant survivor.
Since you obviously don't care to do so yourself, I'll educate you:
"Pedophilia" is very specifically defined as involving an adult and a PRE-PUBESCENT CHILD. If you don't know what "pre-pubescent" means, look it up. I like to define it as "pre-pubes" to make it easy for people like you to understand.
Does the high school student in this show look like he does or does not have pubes? Answer: He does. Therefore, this is in no way, shape, or form a show involving pedophilia.
Now go watch the Disney channel.
Overall message of this series: Gay relationships are so revolting, sick, perverse, immoral, and contrary to healthy cultural norms that the best we can show here is two best friends who act kind of gay once in a while, but without ever, in any way, credibly displaying gay affection.
Sucks. 1/10
Terrible.
3/10
Dropped. 1/10
5/10
So, actually...terrible.
6/10
Oh well, even so, it would be easy to write in a reason why the counselor survives a prison stay. Maybe he comes out with a limp from a failed assault. Who knows? :D Would be a great sequel.
It works magnificently as a parody of:
Japanese politics
Samurai/death cult/macho/hara kiri/bullshit
Gay pornography
Gay romance
Group-think
and much more...
Love it! Highly recommended.
For what it is: 10/10
2. Adding "literally" to your statements doesn't make them stronger, it just makes you sound stupid. Is there a way to be "non-literally gay?"
3. Lots of gay people suffer from internalized homophobia. YOUR internalized homophobia explains why you find watching gay-censored programming fulfilling.
4. Your disinterest in reading more than a sentence or two likely explains your ignorance.
What am I saying? I'm sure you can't bear to read past the word "So..." above in this comment.
Why any healthy gay person would watch a live-action show in which the plot tells them over and over that gay love/affection/sex is SO incredibly nasty, gross, and immoral, that it can't be shown on the screen even when that love is the heart of the story. Imagine a relationship in the real world, gay, straight or otherwise, in which the partners never hug, kiss, or make love and then tell me you'd see that as healthy and fulfilling. If you say you would, you're lying.
And yet that is what The Untamed dishes up over, and over, and over. It would be interesting to know how many views this thing would have garnered if gay love wasn't censored out of everything in China. If Chinese people could watch depictions of steamy, real gay love, would they watch this trash? There's no way to know but I'm hoping not.
Where do YOU live, btw? Thankfully, I live in the U.S., where anything goes onscreen, and we like it that way.
That's some nihilistic shit, right there.
Extremely well-done nihilistic shit.
I had no stomach for Hollywood films this violent, but the Koreans do something entirely different with the genre and it has made me a fan of these Yakuza/murder/thugs/gangs/crooked cops type movies. Not entirely how to sum it up, but I think it's in the characterizations overall. I find something to like in even the most loathsome characters and that makes me give a shit about what's happening to them, even when they get what they deserve, a few bullets to the brain or a knife to the gut. Oh, and usually, the fight scenes, car chase scenes, and otherwise bloody violence is incredibly choreographed to look absolutely real.
Not currently familiar with the work of Uhm Tae Goo, but I am going to make myself so. He was outstanding here. That raspy voice alone is incredibly sexy and interesting. Funny...he looks like a boy scout in his bio pic above.
Cha Sueng Won and Park Ho San are sensational, as always. Both excel at bringing nuances and specifics of character to their roles. I have yet to feel like either is repeating a character, and I've seen both in a lot of films.
For its genre, this is a 9/10 for me.
Highly recommended.
"The show's romance was very realistic to its intended era." The only romance in "The Untamed" exist in your imagination, fueled by your pathetic willingness to interpret raised eyebrows and longing glances as indicative of a relationship the Chinese cannot and do not, portray in their programming. Are you saying ancient, gay love affairs were conducted as in TU, without verbal or physical expressions of affection?
Why anyone who cares about gay people would watch such twisted, censored, shame-filled representations of LGBTQ, emotional, romantic relationships, is beyond me. We do a lot more than stare at each other endlessly, while occasionally falling into a "sort-of" embrace, what I call a "slip-catch-fall," also typical of Thai BLs. We don't fly around in the air in silk dresses, saving each other from evil swordsmen either. Or did you not know that?
Taniguchi Masashi as Togawa who impresses me most.
This was my third watch, and every time it gets better. There aren't many movies, of any budget level, I'd say that about.
9/10
Excellent, slow-burn thriller.
9/10