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And yours are a sure sign that you are part of the problem.

How weirdly lame.

I love when people leave unnecessary replies to my comments, keep replying after that, and then tell me to "touch grass."
You need to eat some ass, I mean grass, of your own.

You were great in "Go Go G Boys," the star of the movie.
Thanks for the laughs. :)

Hot mess!
But in the best possible way.

Silly, stupid, hilarious, sweet, charming, stupid, funny, cute...did I already say stupid?
But also stupid in the best possible way.
Turn off your brain and sit back for some retro, nonsensical fun with a heart the size of Texas.

BTW, team A-Hong all the way here. :)

8/10

Well, I care, but you do you, "bud."

I'm sorry you've had the experience of losing a friend or family member to suicide. That is something the pain of which I can only try to imagine. The combination of grief, horror, and guilt that derives from that situation must be catastrophic. And I'd guess it will never totally go away, but like other forms of trauma, it can only be borne and gotten used to over time.

I haven't been clear that in this discussion, I 100% distinguish a famous person's suicide from that of some bloke down the street. As I mentioned, a celeb's suicide is always going to be news, far more so than if they died in a car wreck or by natural causes. A private citizen known only to friends, family, and colleagues is another matter. In that case, it would be horrible for someone to get online and announce to the world that X had taken their own life. It is not newsworthy; everyone who needs to know already would.

And the impulse to shush a celeb suicide out of fear of copycat incidents is misguided in my opinion. Rather, it is much healthier and direct to make it known what happened, why it happened, and then provide contact information for anyone who may be experiencing suicidal ideation, along with the story. I feel that silence around issues like this is never the solution. Rather, it makes things worse.

Do you know Kpop? I'm a big fan of Jonghyun-era SHINee, though I did not become aware of them until two years after Jonghyun's suicide. In that case, it was well-known and reported, almost immediately, that he took his own life, likely because the rescue attempt, rush to the hospital, etc., was all so public, there was no way to cover it up.

Regardless, it's a wonderful thing that Jonghyun's mother and sister formed an association in his name dedicated to helping people become aware of and gain access to mental health services, and to reducing the stigma surrounding open discussion of suicide. Who knows how many people might have been helped with depression and suicidal ideation in the nine years since Jonghyun's death?

As a big fan, I was especially distressed by the suicide of Lee Sun Kyun over two years ago. In the following months, it seemed perhaps the industry and society would begin an open reckoning with Korea's suicide problem, but that hope has faded. I fear that nothing has or will change, and then when the next celeb suicide happens, Koreans will pretend, once again, to be "shocked." Please.

Have you already watched the whole thing?

It doesn't turn it into anything other than what it is, except in your mind.

You call it "gossip," a negative word, because you want people to stfu.
I call it speculation and information-seeking, entirely normal human reactions to such an event.

You say it's disrespectful.
I say it's only disrespectful if you think someone dying by suicide is shameful, which I don't.
I say when an Asian actor dies suddenly at a young age, especially given the history of suicides in Asia, public speculation is going to happen, whether you like it or not.

"Anyone" would want to speculate about that in the first place...oh maybe because they have a working brain?
If you're so above it all, why are we having this discussion?

You're very naive.
I will continue speculating as I see fit, thanks.

I have a question: Let's say it emerges that this actor verifiably did NOT die by suicide. How is it a big deal that people speculated it was suicide before that announcement? So what? Where's the harm?

Asian cultures feel that suicide is a shameful, embarrassing way to die; thus, the impulse of authorities, especially in China, to silence talk of it. But suicide is one way of dying among many. Speculation about it is speculation about it, not a cataclysmic event.

I should emphasize that I have never engaged in vicious rumor-mongering about a celebrity who is ALIVE. It's after they've died and the authorities and other concerned parties tell me to stfu about it, that I begin speculating, as anybody with a brain cell would do.

Of course not. Because that's what Asian authorities and news media, especially in dictatorial China, do after the suicide of a famous person. They know how he died, so why haven't they said so? Because it doesn't reflect well on them or their country, that's why.

I've seen this routine 100 times before, and I'm not in denial about the celebrity suicide problem in Asia, as you seem to be.

Go tell someone else to stfu.

I have spent zero time devastating the lives of deceased actors and their families, and I don't know what "conspiracy theories" or "fake news" you're referring to, so I'll ignore that part of your reply. The problem is not those who try to determine after the fact whether or not a celeb has died by their own hand; the problem is those who harass, demean, and spread unverified rumors about the celeb while they're alive.

The problem is Cnetz, Knetz, Jnetz, Tnetz, and whatever netz, who form parasocial relationships with celebs or simply enjoy destroying them out of sadistic impulses, and the cultures that encourage these behaviors.

Entertainment agencies that treat their idols/actors like slaves, a culture that demands perfection from well-known people, police, news media, courts, and good, old-fashioned, vicious gossip blown up by a factor of 1,000 by the Internet are the problems, not people seeking to ascertain whether or not someone has killed themselves when it's obvious that they have.

The death of a famous person is news. The death of a famous person by suicide is mega-news. That has been true since cultures first formed. Your impulse to silence people who ask questions and seek answers in response to that news is misplaced.

The now-typical agency statement I quoted above only feeds the fire. They are telling everyone to stfu, which fuels speculation, and laughably so.

The authorities and the agency already know how this actor died; they just don't want to admit it.

"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public not to spread unverified rumors regarding the circumstances surrounding his death."

Sure sign of a suicide.

And here you are, a vigilante on social media, telling everyone to stfu.
How many suicides do you have to see to know all the signs, and here's a big one:

"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public not to spread unverified rumors regarding the circumstances surrounding his death."

I have a custom list of nearly 40 verified entertainment celeb suicides, and that's just in Korea. But sure, there's no problem with suicides among Asian entertainers cause you're here to tell us to stfu. You're part of the problem.

"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public not to spread unverified rumors regarding the circumstances surrounding his death."

This verbiage is a sure sign of a suicide.

I do have something positive to say about Double Helix:
The male vocalist who performs what seems to be LuFeng/Yi cheng's love theme, "Forever Stay With You," is just fantastic. That voice is like silk running over my skin. The song itself is beyond gorgeous. When he goes into the up-swelling chorus, I get goose-bumpy.

Episodes 9 & 10:
WOW

I just looked up the definition of "over the top," and the name of this series was in the text.
A lot of things that should be extremely sad or happy or shocking just aren't because they are written and acted in such a melodramatic fashion that I can only laugh.

When YC's "wife" pulled out that you-know-what and did you-know-what with it, I LOL'd.
She'd been standing there for ten minutes watching LF manhandle YC and refuse to let him leave, yet she never thinks to call 911. Oh no, that would make too much sense. Instead, she thinks, "I'll take this lovely silver you-know-what out and commit murder with it instead." lol

And then, she and LF stand/sit there for ten minutes pretending to be distraught (badly), instead of, you know, dialing 911 or whatever they dial in China. Of course, no one is ever investigated about the little incident, let alone charged with attempted murder.

I was unaware that such a wound to the torso could put a person in a coma. Nor did I know that part of the treatment plan for a you-know-what wound is performing a lobotomy on the patient. I could go on and on about the unintentionally hilarious things in this episode/show, but why bother? You know what I mean.

Now, about the acting... omg, where to start? I've been thinking what a good actor Ayden Sng is, but then I realized it is impossible to know because some anonymous voice actor is dubbing (and overacting) his lines. Without hearing an actor's voice at the same time I'm seeing their body/face, it's impossible to evaluate their performance.

Back to that lobotomy: Lu Si Teng as YiChen is god-awful. He has spent the last two episodes and most of the others moving about like a zombie with its mouth hanging open. I'm surprised he doesn't drool. His affect is never-ending blankness. Of course, this is also, and perhaps mainly the fault of the director, who is apparently watching LST doing this shit, then yelling "Cut! It's a wrap, great job, LST!"

Finally, this is one of the most twisted/codependent/dangerous relationships I have ever seen. hahaha If the acting and direction were up to the wild storyline, a crew might be able to pull it off successfully, but as is, it's a hot mess. Even Ayden was chewing the scenery this episode, especially early on when the wife showed up and he did his evil, threatening villain impersonation. That was time for another good chortle. Again, it's the fault of the director.

This show is a good example of why I rarely watch Chinese dramas. The melodramatic dubbing, complete with distant sound effects and reverb/echo effects, is enough to take me out of most of them. It's like watching through a thick glass wall.

I see I've touched a nerve with you, "honey."
Good, I'm glad.

Generally, I don't bother blocking people, even douche bags like you.
You know where the block button is.
Use it or stfu.