My interpretation was that Bohn wanted sweet, nice Duen back, since Duen has been very confrontational with Bohn…
Interesting interpretation. I totally agree with you. I think that Bohn did want the sweet, nice Duen back. Unfortunately, in the scripted dialogue Bohn added that simple little part, "do whatever for me." AND, maybe you're right in that the eng sub translation didn't get the true meaning of what Bohn was saying. If so, I'm very glad to stand corrected. LOL
Okay, okay. I'm going to have to comment on this most recent episode. Although this series has its flaws, it was doing well with teaching good messages about gay relationships (remember the conversation that Mek had with Bohn about "top" or "bottom" not necessarily being what he thought). That was good. It showed a series willing to tackle that age old question in LGBTQ+ relationships. We thought that the character of Bohn was beginning to learn, especially when he and Duen are discussing what Bohn thought had happened the previous night. Bohn stated that he would "accept" whatever happened the previous night because he wanted to be with Duen. He then followed that statement with that they "could discuss their status (referring to top vs bottom) later. I was like OMG! Now, that's how a relationships should be! I thought that the writers and director was finally giving us a little taste of what it's like for a couple to behave better than the just the same old BL trope. Congrats!
AND THEN WE GET TO REST OF THAT SCENE! Bohn then follows up with "can I have the old Duen back, the one who will do whatever for me. I like him." This is then followed with the flashback or flash forward (I'm not really sure which) of Duen, Bohn, and their little brother and sister at the store -- "wanting Mummy and Daddy to go back to the way things were... and DUEN AGREEING TO DO IT!!!" And, in the span of just of a few minutes, the series went from being somewhat sophisticated in the way they treat gay relationships back to the same old hubby/wifey, seme/uke trope as other BLs. What a shame!
But, I still like the series and I have hope that in the last few episodes that it can get a little of that sophistication back. I know, I sometimes daydream too much... LOL
Like so many others, I liked scene 4 where Sarawat is finally telling Tine the truth about how they got together. That was actually cool. Now, as for the rest of the episode (1 - 3), I'm not so sure. The pacing was slow, the romance didn't feel like it was there. The trick P.Dim pulled was just silly (even if it was in the novel). I also don't like the way the series is portraying Tine. It starts out as stating that he's "Mr. Chic," and it seems that he becomes "Mr. Chick." The series increasingly seems to make Tine's character take on more "feminine" characteristics. I know again, that's the old common BL trope, a "straight" guy (who's supposedly into girls) becomes the "wifey" (and seems to always "bottom") for the "gay" guy. Just once, why couldn't it be the other way around in these BL's??? Oh, I forgot, then it might not be as successful a BL drama.... lmao!
Personally this series is the BEST BL SERIES I've watched so far! The chemistry between them is incredible great,…
I agree with everything you posted except about TharnType. For me. that series had far too much rape, violence, and sexual assault. And, it still fascinates me that so many enjoy this kind of BL drama.
omg you have to spoiler me! what happens in the novel?
Well, to put it simply, Sarawat is feeling down and horny, and manipulates Tine into allowing Sarawat to "relieve" himself (on Tine). And, for lack of a better way to put it, Sarawat "really" does a number on Tine's backside, causing injury, pain etc. But, as in traditional BL fashion, AFTER "relieving" himself, then Sarawat feels guilty, loving, and caring.. Yada, yada, yada. . I think the novel portrays that side of Sarawat as a horny, selfish, manipulative sadist in those chapters, unlike how he is portrayed by GMMTV.
I kind of like the way GMMTV has taken this story and turned it into a series. I'm also very glad they've chosen to vary from the novel. BL novels tend to have a great many tropes, stereotypes, and behaviors that do not bode well for the LGBTQ community, such as violence and rape. This series still has a few tropes and stereotypes, as well as some violence directed towards the gay characters (Sarawat, and Greene) that is treated lightly in the series. However, the show does attempt to address these within the storyline. Now, if GMMTV chooses to follow the novel regarding the infamous ch. 21 scene that is in the novel, I think that would go against the relationship they've established between the characters thus far in the series. DON'T DO IT GMMTV!!
Dew/Blue is kind of odd. The story went from Dew behaving like a total ass, to suddenly acting sweet and like…
Again, I'm right there with ya! But, remember, the "age-thing" seems to be a dominant theme in this series.. lol Zee is 6 years older than Saint; Tommy (Zon) is 5 years older than Jimmy (Saifah); Max (dew) is nearly 10 years older than Nat (Blu); Park (Japan) is 7 years older than Seng (Tanthai), etc., etc. I'm not sure this was intentional on the part of the director or producers. But, it does deserve a hmmmm! lol
Ugh.... After seeing episode 12 I realized that Tutor is so annoying and unlikable... There I said it... Like…
Remember, what Tutor did was probably not cool. But, what Fighter did was much, much worse. Had Tutor not said something to get Fighter to stop himself, would Fighter have gone ahead and raped him? You never do that to someone you say you love, never! I didn't read the novel, so I don't know if it was in the original plot. However, rape seems to be a common theme in alot of the BL's unfortunately.
AND THEN WE GET TO REST OF THAT SCENE! Bohn then follows up with "can I have the old Duen back, the one who will do whatever for me. I like him." This is then followed with the flashback or flash forward (I'm not really sure which) of Duen, Bohn, and their little brother and sister at the store -- "wanting Mummy and Daddy to go back to the way things were... and DUEN AGREEING TO DO IT!!!" And, in the span of just of a few minutes, the series went from being somewhat sophisticated in the way they treat gay relationships back to the same old hubby/wifey, seme/uke trope as other BLs. What a shame!
But, I still like the series and I have hope that in the last few episodes that it can get a little of that sophistication back. I know, I sometimes daydream too much... LOL
P.S. I still luv this series though!